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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Shalu Goel <sh...@mind-infotech.com> on 2002/11/21 11:51:02 UTC
name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
Hello all,
i have finally resolved my download problem of struts book chapters from the sitre theserverside.com
It is very simple
http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/review/name of zip file to be downloaded.zip
but one problem persist ...that can be resolved if someone who has already downloaded the chapters ...gives me the name of the zip file that gets downloaded when u try downloading the chapter no. 15 and chapter no 17.
e.g. when i donload chapter no 1 the zip file i download is
"struts-chapter1-apr25"
similarly what is the name for the zip file for chapter no 15 and 17???
RE: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
I'd just like to point out that the reason the chapters of Chuck's book
were made available on TheServerSide was for public *review*, not as a
public give-away. Given that the book is now in production, the review
period is clearly over, so I'm not at all surprised that these chapters
are no longer available for download.
--
Martin Cooper
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, James Mitchell wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shalu Goel [mailto:shalu.goel@mind-infotech.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:12 AM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
> >
> >
> > Thanks James to bring it to my notice!!!
> > I truly appreciate ur sentiments!!!!
> > I promise!! i will surely buy it as soon as it is available in the book
> > stores...
>
> That's great. I'm sure Chuck would appreciate it.
>
> > But wait a minute i think u should always think of the possibility
> > wherein a newbie honestly looking all out to get some packaged material
> > on the technology to use and promote in one's own place of working...
>
> True.
>
> > The reason why i am screaming BOOK!!! BOOK!!! is, i honestly thought it
> > is not the issue with the chuck books getting printed rather... some s/w
> > devolper has overwritten a jsp page(download.jsp) at theserverside.com....
>
> Yes, and that's perfectly understandable.
>
> > Had it not been the case they would have also removed the link
> > http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp which talks
> > about downloading the book chapters and then takes to a
> > different page altogether!!!!
>
> I understand where you are coming from. Unless I'm way off and this
> whole this was (as you say) an overwritten jsp, it's not fair for the reader
> or the author that there are pages with bad information and/or links on
> them.
>
> I mean, what's the author supposed to say....."the preview is no longer
> free"????
> That's only going to piss off people. And that's the last thing you want to
> do is
> piss off your audience....especially with a book on such a specific topic.
>
> > there would surely have just been a list... no hyperlinks ..no
> > instructions to download it ...
>
> >
> > Also i have enquired at bookstore in my local area ...Chuck's book has not
> > reached the book stores yet!!!
> >
> > I gather... u have been a very sincere, honest and dedicated s/w
> > professional ...but does ur innate humanity not gives you all the more
> > reasons to trust others too???
>
> My message was not intended to be personal. I'm sorry if it came off that
> way. In fact, I had put "don't take this personally" before sending, but
> decided to delete it because it is such an over-used phrase to hide
> vindictive comments.
>
> > Thanks and Regards
> > Shalu
>
>
>
>
> James "I can't believe he didn't pick Brook!!!" Mitchell
> Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> http://www.open-tools.org
>
> "If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or
> 1024 chickens?"
> - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
>
>
>
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RE: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shalu Goel [mailto:shalu.goel@mind-infotech.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:12 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
>
>
> Thanks James to bring it to my notice!!!
> I truly appreciate ur sentiments!!!!
> I promise!! i will surely buy it as soon as it is available in the book
> stores...
That's great. I'm sure Chuck would appreciate it.
> But wait a minute i think u should always think of the possibility
> wherein a newbie honestly looking all out to get some packaged material
> on the technology to use and promote in one's own place of working...
True.
> The reason why i am screaming BOOK!!! BOOK!!! is, i honestly thought it
> is not the issue with the chuck books getting printed rather... some s/w
> devolper has overwritten a jsp page(download.jsp) at theserverside.com....
Yes, and that's perfectly understandable.
> Had it not been the case they would have also removed the link
> http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp which talks
> about downloading the book chapters and then takes to a
> different page altogether!!!!
I understand where you are coming from. Unless I'm way off and this
whole this was (as you say) an overwritten jsp, it's not fair for the reader
or the author that there are pages with bad information and/or links on
them.
I mean, what's the author supposed to say....."the preview is no longer
free"????
That's only going to piss off people. And that's the last thing you want to
do is
piss off your audience....especially with a book on such a specific topic.
> there would surely have just been a list... no hyperlinks ..no
> instructions to download it ...
>
> Also i have enquired at bookstore in my local area ...Chuck's book has not
> reached the book stores yet!!!
>
> I gather... u have been a very sincere, honest and dedicated s/w
> professional ...but does ur innate humanity not gives you all the more
> reasons to trust others too???
My message was not intended to be personal. I'm sorry if it came off that
way. In fact, I had put "don't take this personally" before sending, but
decided to delete it because it is such an over-used phrase to hide
vindictive comments.
> Thanks and Regards
> Shalu
James "I can't believe he didn't pick Brook!!!" Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org
"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or
1024 chickens?"
- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
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Re: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
Posted by Shalu Goel <sh...@mind-infotech.com>.
Thanks James to bring it to my notice!!!
I truly appreciate ur sentiments!!!!
I promise!! i will surely buy it as soon as it is available in the book
stores...
But wait a minute i think u should always think of the possibility wherein a
newbie honestly looking all out to get some packaged material on the
technology to use and promote in one's own place of working...
The reason why i am screaming BOOK!!! BOOK!!! is, i honestly thought it is
not the issue with the chuck books getting printed rather... some s/w
devolper has overwritten a jsp page(download.jsp) at
theserverside.com....Had it not been the case they would have also removed
the link
http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp
which talks about downloading the book chapters and then takes to a
different page altogether!!!!
there would surely have just been a list... no hyperlinks ..no instructions
to download it ...
Also i have enquired at bookstore in my local area ...Chuck's book has not
reached the book stores yet!!!
I gather... u have been a very sincere, honest and dedicated s/w
professional ...but does ur innate humanity not gives you all the more
reasons to trust others too???
Thanks and Regards
Shalu
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Mitchell" <jm...@telocity.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
>
> Chuck has worked very hard to get this book into print. In case you don't
> know, he has a family (wife and two sons) to support.
>
> He is too nice of a guy to say this, so I will say it for him...
>
> There is a reason that the download page is not there anymore. Buy the
book.
>
> The dedicated individuals who spend hours each day helping others resolve
> issues get ABSOLUTELY NO compensation for doing so. For those who are
lucky
> enough to get a book deal, the proceeds from it are hardly compensation
for
> the enormous amount of time it takes to bring it to print.
>
> I know there will still be some who try to cheat him out of what little
> income he gets from each print, but the rest of us honest folk can do our
> part and thank him with our wallets.
>
> I purchased Ted's pdf the same day it was available, and I plan to pick up
> Chuck's as soon as it hits the shelves at my local book store. I also own
> the other 2 books Chuck has co-authored.
>
> Thank you Craig, Ted, Chuck, Brian, Sue, James and others (there are too
> many to name) for your wisdom, guidance, and patience. Besides the day to
> day knowledge transfer, having a good book beside us helps us all do our
> jobs better.....so THANK YOU!!!!
>
>
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
> http://www.open-tools.org
>
> "If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen
or
> 1024 chickens?"
> - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shalu Goel [mailto:shalu.goel@mind-infotech.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:51 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
>
>
> Hello all,
> i have finally resolved my download problem of struts book chapters from
the
> sitre theserverside.com
> It is very simple
> http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/review/name of zip file to be
> downloaded.zip
> but one problem persist ...that can be resolved if someone who has already
> downloaded the chapters ...gives me the name of the zip file that gets
> downloaded when u try downloading the chapter no. 15 and chapter no 17.
> e.g. when i donload chapter no 1 the zip file i download is
> "struts-chapter1-apr25"
> similarly what is the name for the zip file for chapter no 15 and 17???
>
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> For additional commands, e-mail:
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
>
>
>
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RE: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@telocity.com>.
Chuck has worked very hard to get this book into print. In case you don't
know, he has a family (wife and two sons) to support.
He is too nice of a guy to say this, so I will say it for him...
There is a reason that the download page is not there anymore. Buy the book.
The dedicated individuals who spend hours each day helping others resolve
issues get ABSOLUTELY NO compensation for doing so. For those who are lucky
enough to get a book deal, the proceeds from it are hardly compensation for
the enormous amount of time it takes to bring it to print.
I know there will still be some who try to cheat him out of what little
income he gets from each print, but the rest of us honest folk can do our
part and thank him with our wallets.
I purchased Ted's pdf the same day it was available, and I plan to pick up
Chuck's as soon as it hits the shelves at my local book store. I also own
the other 2 books Chuck has co-authored.
Thank you Craig, Ted, Chuck, Brian, Sue, James and others (there are too
many to name) for your wisdom, guidance, and patience. Besides the day to
day knowledge transfer, having a good book beside us helps us all do our
jobs better.....so THANK YOU!!!!
James Mitchell
Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist
http://www.open-tools.org
"If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or
1024 chickens?"
- Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing
-----Original Message-----
From: Shalu Goel [mailto:shalu.goel@mind-infotech.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:51 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: name of zip file???chuck cavaness book
Hello all,
i have finally resolved my download problem of struts book chapters from the
sitre theserverside.com
It is very simple
http://www2.theserverside.com/resources/review/name of zip file to be
downloaded.zip
but one problem persist ...that can be resolved if someone who has already
downloaded the chapters ...gives me the name of the zip file that gets
downloaded when u try downloading the chapter no. 15 and chapter no 17.
e.g. when i donload chapter no 1 the zip file i download is
"struts-chapter1-apr25"
similarly what is the name for the zip file for chapter no 15 and 17???
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