[VOTE-SUMMARY] Proposal to deprecate Google Groups

[leerho <le...@gmail.com>]

The vote letter of Feb 6th 10:22 AM PST has been approved and is now closed.

We had a very useful discussion with a number of good suggestions!

We had 6 (+1) votes: Jon, Eric, Kenn, Dave, Evans, Alex.  No 0 or -1 votes.

We had the following suggestions:

1. Jon: Add a footer appending to user@ messages, inviting people to
joining dev@ to get
involved with development. So I'm very much not trying to hide the dev@
list. just keep user questions separate from development questions.

2. Kenn: Add an auto reply to the Google Group with a
convenient link to mailto:users-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org and leave
the group for a while, or indefinitely.

3. Kenn: Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too. Worth considering
how to tie these together to include all these different sorts of users.
>> Unresolved how to do this.

4. Kenn: set up user@/users@ aliases.

5. Evans: WRT #2:
I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is the
date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
can't post a new one.

I will proceed to create the users@ list. Once that is up, I will start
closing down the GG forum and updating documentation.

Lee.

Re: [VOTE-SUMMARY] Proposal to deprecate Google Groups

[leerho <le...@gmail.com>]

Will do.
Thanks!

Lee.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:16 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> To clarify - Lee, I suggest you submit an INFRA ticket for those, and
> decide on precise verbiage for the footer so they can just copy/paste.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Submitted the creation request for users@datasketches.apache.org through
>> the automated tool. Two things not part of that workflow:
>>
>>  - set up alias
>>  - set up desired footer
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:21 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mentors,
>>> Well, I thought I could create a new Email list myself, but I don't have
>>> the stripes yet.
>>>
>>> So, could one of you volunteer to do the following:
>>> 1. Set up a users@datasketches.apache.org public mail list
>>> 2. Set up an alias user@ for the same list
>>> 3. Add a footer message encouraging developers that wish to contribute
>>> to Apache DataSketches please join our dev@ mail list:
>>> mailto:dev-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Lee.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 3:39 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The vote letter of Feb 6th 10:22 AM PST has been approved and is now
>>>> closed.
>>>>
>>>> We had a very useful discussion with a number of good suggestions!
>>>>
>>>> We had 6 (+1) votes: Jon, Eric, Kenn, Dave, Evans, Alex.  No 0 or -1
>>>> votes.
>>>>
>>>> We had the following suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Jon: Add a footer appending to user@ messages, inviting people to
>>>> joining dev@ to get
>>>> involved with development. So I'm very much not trying to hide the dev@
>>>> list. just keep user questions separate from development questions.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Kenn: Add an auto reply to the Google Group with a
>>>> convenient link to mailto:users-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org and
>>>> leave
>>>> the group for a while, or indefinitely.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Kenn: Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too. Worth considering
>>>> how to tie these together to include all these different sorts of
>>>> users.
>>>> >> Unresolved how to do this.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Kenn: set up user@/users@ aliases.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Evans: WRT #2:
>>>> I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is
>>>> the
>>>> date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
>>>> message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
>>>> can't post a new one.
>>>>
>>>> I will proceed to create the users@ list. Once that is up, I will
>>>> start closing down the GG forum and updating documentation.
>>>>
>>>> Lee.
>>>>
>>>>

Re: [VOTE-SUMMARY] Proposal to deprecate Google Groups

[Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>]

To clarify - Lee, I suggest you submit an INFRA ticket for those, and
decide on precise verbiage for the footer so they can just copy/paste.

Kenn

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:

> Submitted the creation request for users@datasketches.apache.org through
> the automated tool. Two things not part of that workflow:
>
>  - set up alias
>  - set up desired footer
>
> Kenn
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:21 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Mentors,
>> Well, I thought I could create a new Email list myself, but I don't have
>> the stripes yet.
>>
>> So, could one of you volunteer to do the following:
>> 1. Set up a users@datasketches.apache.org public mail list
>> 2. Set up an alias user@ for the same list
>> 3. Add a footer message encouraging developers that wish to contribute to
>> Apache DataSketches please join our dev@ mail list:
>> mailto:dev-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Lee.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 3:39 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The vote letter of Feb 6th 10:22 AM PST has been approved and is now
>>> closed.
>>>
>>> We had a very useful discussion with a number of good suggestions!
>>>
>>> We had 6 (+1) votes: Jon, Eric, Kenn, Dave, Evans, Alex.  No 0 or -1
>>> votes.
>>>
>>> We had the following suggestions:
>>>
>>> 1. Jon: Add a footer appending to user@ messages, inviting people to
>>> joining dev@ to get
>>> involved with development. So I'm very much not trying to hide the dev@
>>> list. just keep user questions separate from development questions.
>>>
>>> 2. Kenn: Add an auto reply to the Google Group with a
>>> convenient link to mailto:users-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org and
>>> leave
>>> the group for a while, or indefinitely.
>>>
>>> 3. Kenn: Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too. Worth considering
>>> how to tie these together to include all these different sorts of users.
>>> >> Unresolved how to do this.
>>>
>>> 4. Kenn: set up user@/users@ aliases.
>>>
>>> 5. Evans: WRT #2:
>>> I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is
>>> the
>>> date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
>>> message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
>>> can't post a new one.
>>>
>>> I will proceed to create the users@ list. Once that is up, I will start
>>> closing down the GG forum and updating documentation.
>>>
>>> Lee.
>>>
>>>

Re: [VOTE-SUMMARY] Proposal to deprecate Google Groups

[Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>]

Submitted the creation request for users@datasketches.apache.org through
the automated tool. Two things not part of that workflow:

 - set up alias
 - set up desired footer

Kenn

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:21 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Mentors,
> Well, I thought I could create a new Email list myself, but I don't have
> the stripes yet.
>
> So, could one of you volunteer to do the following:
> 1. Set up a users@datasketches.apache.org public mail list
> 2. Set up an alias user@ for the same list
> 3. Add a footer message encouraging developers that wish to contribute to
> Apache DataSketches please join our dev@ mail list:
> mailto:dev-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lee.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 3:39 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The vote letter of Feb 6th 10:22 AM PST has been approved and is now
>> closed.
>>
>> We had a very useful discussion with a number of good suggestions!
>>
>> We had 6 (+1) votes: Jon, Eric, Kenn, Dave, Evans, Alex.  No 0 or -1
>> votes.
>>
>> We had the following suggestions:
>>
>> 1. Jon: Add a footer appending to user@ messages, inviting people to
>> joining dev@ to get
>> involved with development. So I'm very much not trying to hide the dev@
>> list. just keep user questions separate from development questions.
>>
>> 2. Kenn: Add an auto reply to the Google Group with a
>> convenient link to mailto:users-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org and
>> leave
>> the group for a while, or indefinitely.
>>
>> 3. Kenn: Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too. Worth considering
>> how to tie these together to include all these different sorts of users.
>> >> Unresolved how to do this.
>>
>> 4. Kenn: set up user@/users@ aliases.
>>
>> 5. Evans: WRT #2:
>> I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is
>> the
>> date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
>> message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
>> can't post a new one.
>>
>> I will proceed to create the users@ list. Once that is up, I will start
>> closing down the GG forum and updating documentation.
>>
>> Lee.
>>
>>

Re: [VOTE-SUMMARY] Proposal to deprecate Google Groups

[leerho <le...@gmail.com>]

Dear Mentors,
Well, I thought I could create a new Email list myself, but I don't have
the stripes yet.

So, could one of you volunteer to do the following:
1. Set up a users@datasketches.apache.org public mail list
2. Set up an alias user@ for the same list
3. Add a footer message encouraging developers that wish to contribute to
Apache DataSketches please join our dev@ mail list:
mailto:dev-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org.

Thank you,

Lee.


On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 3:39 PM leerho <le...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The vote letter of Feb 6th 10:22 AM PST has been approved and is now
> closed.
>
> We had a very useful discussion with a number of good suggestions!
>
> We had 6 (+1) votes: Jon, Eric, Kenn, Dave, Evans, Alex.  No 0 or -1 votes.
>
> We had the following suggestions:
>
> 1. Jon: Add a footer appending to user@ messages, inviting people to
> joining dev@ to get
> involved with development. So I'm very much not trying to hide the dev@
> list. just keep user questions separate from development questions.
>
> 2. Kenn: Add an auto reply to the Google Group with a
> convenient link to mailto:users-subscribe@datasketches.apache.org and
> leave
> the group for a while, or indefinitely.
>
> 3. Kenn: Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too. Worth considering
> how to tie these together to include all these different sorts of users.
> >> Unresolved how to do this.
>
> 4. Kenn: set up user@/users@ aliases.
>
> 5. Evans: WRT #2:
> I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is the
> date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
> message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
> can't post a new one.
>
> I will proceed to create the users@ list. Once that is up, I will start
> closing down the GG forum and updating documentation.
>
> Lee.
>
>