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Posted to dev@jmeter.apache.org by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> on 2016/10/06 18:46:12 UTC

Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Hello,
We discussed about this in 2 threads:

   - Release a 3.0
   - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0

I propose to drop for 3.1:

   - "Monitor Results" element
   - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request


I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to monitoring
J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is very
specific to this feature.

Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.

Regards

Philippe

Re: Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Posted by Antonio Gomes Rodrigues <ra...@gmail.com>.
+1 to remove it

Antonio

2016-10-06 20:46 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
> We discussed about this in 2 threads:
>
>    - Release a 3.0
>    - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0
>
> I propose to drop for 3.1:
>
>    - "Monitor Results" element
>    - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request
>
>
> I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to monitoring
> J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is very
> specific to this feature.
>
> Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.
>
> Regards
>
> Philippe
>

Re: Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Done in :
- https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60224

Regards

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi,
> Frankly I doubt anybody still uses this part.
> I've never seen any question on Stackoverflow nor user mailing list.
>
> If you really want to proceed this way, I'll remove from menu the
> Deprecated "monitor results" (it will be still possible to make it
> reappear) and try to check if it's deprecated and only show monitor in HTTP
> Request if it's not, but it's a bit overengineering.
>
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Milamber <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 07/10/2016 08:35, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>>
>>> Am 06.10.2016 20:46, schrieb Philippe Mouawad:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> We discussed about this in 2 threads:
>>>>
>>>>    - Release a 3.0
>>>>    - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0
>>>>
>>>> I propose to drop for 3.1:
>>>>
>>>>    - "Monitor Results" element
>>>>    - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to
>>>> monitoring
>>>> J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is very
>>>> specific to this feature.
>>>>
>>>> Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be nicer to mark them as deprecated and remove them in the
>>> next version?
>>>
>>
>> It sounds good to me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> To be honest, I have never used those features and probably will not do
>>> it in the future.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Felix
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
>
>
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

Re: Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 7 October 2016 at 18:27, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Frankly I doubt anybody still uses this part.
> I've never seen any question on Stackoverflow nor user mailing list.

That could just mean that the people using it don't have any issues with it.

> If you really want to proceed this way, I'll remove from menu the
> Deprecated "monitor results" (it will be still possible to make it
> reappear) and try to check if it's deprecated and only show monitor in HTTP
> Request if it's not, but it's a bit overengineering.
>
> Regards
> Philippe
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Milamber <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 07/10/2016 08:35, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>>
>>> Am 06.10.2016 20:46, schrieb Philippe Mouawad:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> We discussed about this in 2 threads:
>>>>
>>>>    - Release a 3.0
>>>>    - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0
>>>>
>>>> I propose to drop for 3.1:
>>>>
>>>>    - "Monitor Results" element
>>>>    - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to monitoring
>>>> J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is very
>>>> specific to this feature.
>>>>
>>>> Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be nicer to mark them as deprecated and remove them in the
>>> next version?
>>>
>>
>> It sounds good to me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> To be honest, I have never used those features and probably will not do
>>> it in the future.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Felix
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.

Re: Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Frankly I doubt anybody still uses this part.
I've never seen any question on Stackoverflow nor user mailing list.

If you really want to proceed this way, I'll remove from menu the
Deprecated "monitor results" (it will be still possible to make it
reappear) and try to check if it's deprecated and only show monitor in HTTP
Request if it's not, but it's a bit overengineering.

Regards
Philippe

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Milamber <mi...@apache.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 07/10/2016 08:35, Felix Schumacher wrote:
>
>> Am 06.10.2016 20:46, schrieb Philippe Mouawad:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> We discussed about this in 2 threads:
>>>
>>>    - Release a 3.0
>>>    - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0
>>>
>>> I propose to drop for 3.1:
>>>
>>>    - "Monitor Results" element
>>>    - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request
>>>
>>>
>>> I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to monitoring
>>> J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is very
>>> specific to this feature.
>>>
>>> Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.
>>>
>>
>> Wouldn't it be nicer to mark them as deprecated and remove them in the
>> next version?
>>
>
> It sounds good to me.
>
>
>
>
>> To be honest, I have never used those features and probably will not do
>> it in the future.
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Felix
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

Re: Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Posted by Milamber <mi...@apache.org>.

On 07/10/2016 08:35, Felix Schumacher wrote:
> Am 06.10.2016 20:46, schrieb Philippe Mouawad:
>> Hello,
>> We discussed about this in 2 threads:
>>
>>    - Release a 3.0
>>    - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0
>>
>> I propose to drop for 3.1:
>>
>>    - "Monitor Results" element
>>    - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request
>>
>>
>> I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to 
>> monitoring
>> J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is very
>> specific to this feature.
>>
>> Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.
>
> Wouldn't it be nicer to mark them as deprecated and remove them in the 
> next version?

It sounds good to me.


>
> To be honest, I have never used those features and probably will not 
> do it in the future.
>
> Regards,
>  Felix
>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Philippe
>


Re: Remove "Monitor Results" element and remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request

Posted by Felix Schumacher <fe...@internetallee.de>.
Am 06.10.2016 20:46, schrieb Philippe Mouawad:
> Hello,
> We discussed about this in 2 threads:
> 
>    - Release a 3.0
>    - Remaining Work before Release of 3.0
> 
> I propose to drop for 3.1:
> 
>    - "Monitor Results" element
>    - remove "Use As Monitor" attribute from HTTP Request
> 
> 
> I think nowadays there are far better and more generic ways to 
> monitoring
> J2EE Servers and having "Use as Monitor" has nothing generic and is 
> very
> specific to this feature.
> 
> Unless there is a NOGO I'll be commiting the drop tomorrow.

Wouldn't it be nicer to mark them as deprecated and remove them in the 
next version?

To be honest, I have never used those features and probably will not do 
it in the future.

Regards,
  Felix

> 
> Regards
> 
> Philippe