OSGi Practicailities [WAS Re: [POLL] trunk -=phoenix +=spring/OSGi]

[Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>]

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
> Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto:
>> On 5/21/09, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:

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>> 2. I don't believe that we have the development capacity at this time
>> to do pure OSGi
>
> I agree. But you insisted that there was no consensus, so I wanted to
> check our community.

(apologies for hijacking that thread)

> ===================================================================
> I still don't know if we simply lack developers or we still lack
> community behaviours, agreement, procedures, meritocracy.
> ===================================================================

ok

>> 3.Bernd's clever spring deployment is Phoenix based. I doubt we have
>> the development capacity to create a pure Spring deployment at this
>> time.
>
> Well, it is not really phoenix based. It use spring to link avalon
> components. In order to reproduce some behaviour from phoenix it uses
> some phoenix library.
> It is a wrapper using some library from phoenix (mainly spice
> libraries), not phoenix itself.
> You know better than me that much libraries from phoenix epoch branched
> to generic utility libraries. Some ended in the "apache-commons",
> something else to project outside apache.

AIUI the avalon libraries went into excalibur, not commons

> I won't consider a big issue to keep relying on some spice libraries or
> other libraries from phoenix while we step forward.

these libraries are well used outside james. some have already  been
OSGified. the rest could be.

- robert

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