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Re: subversion and ClearCase



 I am planning to test subversion with ClearCase.( I
 know ClearCase , I am testing subversion first time)
 My questions :
 1. Both Subversion and ClearCase can run from same
 server ?
 2. How chatty is Subversion ?
 3. How much memory require to for both to exist on
 same server ( Unix Solaris 200 users )?
 4. How to configure the Subversion using SAN/NAS
 storage ?
 
 My task is to install Subversion on Same machine
 having ClearCase VOB server.
 
 Thanks in advance and appreciate the reply 
 
 Jay
 


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Re: subversion and ClearCase

Posted by brd brd <br...@yahoo.com>.
Thanks Daniel for your prompt reply. I will deploy the
Subversion in thsi week, lets hope things will go
smooth.

Jay

--- Daniel Patterson <da...@danpat.net> wrote:

> brd brd wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  I am planning to test subversion with ClearCase.(
> I
> >  know ClearCase , I am testing subversion first
> time)
> >  My questions :
> >  1. Both Subversion and ClearCase can run from
> same
> >  server ?
> 
>    Sure.  Subversion either runs on port 80 when
> exposed
>    as a WebDAV server, port 3690 when running
> "svnserve"
>    or port 22 when accessed via ssh.  Choose one
> that
>    doesn't conflict.
> 
>    Subversion doesn't require installation in any
>    particular place, so you shouldn't have too many
>    conflicts on the filesystem either.
> 
> >  2. How chatty is Subversion ?
> 
>    Compared to Clearcase?  Not at all.  Subversion
> only
>    compares to clearcase when you're using snapshot
> views,
>    Subversion doesn't really have a dynamic view
> equivalent.
>    In addition, Subversion only sends deltas
> (differences)
>    over the wire for commit and update operations.
>    Many operations can be done locally without
> contacting
>    the server at all.
> 
> >  3. How much memory require to for both to exist
> on
> >  same server ( Unix Solaris 200 users )?
> 
>    Subversion memory requirements are not high, but
> I
>    don't believe anyone has really done any
> measurements
>    yet.  It seems to be mostly affected by operating
> system
>    caching ability (so, as usual, the more memory,
> the
>    faster it'll be).
> 
> >  4. How to configure the Subversion using SAN/NAS
> >  storage ?
> 
>    If you use the "fsfs" backend, you can store a
> Subversion
>    repository database on a remote volume just fine,
> so long
>    as it supports POSIX locking.
>    If you're on a Unix-style machine, just make sure
> it's
>    mounted somewhere and that's it, nothing special.
> 
> >  My task is to install Subversion on Same machine
> >  having ClearCase VOB server.
> 
>    Naturally, I assume you realise that Clearcase
> load
>    will affect Subversions performance?
> 
>    Make sure you read over http://www.svnbook.org/
> 
> daniel
> 



		
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Re: subversion and ClearCase

Posted by Daniel Patterson <da...@danpat.net>.
brd brd wrote:
> 
> 
>  I am planning to test subversion with ClearCase.( I
>  know ClearCase , I am testing subversion first time)
>  My questions :
>  1. Both Subversion and ClearCase can run from same
>  server ?

   Sure.  Subversion either runs on port 80 when exposed
   as a WebDAV server, port 3690 when running "svnserve"
   or port 22 when accessed via ssh.  Choose one that
   doesn't conflict.

   Subversion doesn't require installation in any
   particular place, so you shouldn't have too many
   conflicts on the filesystem either.

>  2. How chatty is Subversion ?

   Compared to Clearcase?  Not at all.  Subversion only
   compares to clearcase when you're using snapshot views,
   Subversion doesn't really have a dynamic view equivalent.
   In addition, Subversion only sends deltas (differences)
   over the wire for commit and update operations.
   Many operations can be done locally without contacting
   the server at all.

>  3. How much memory require to for both to exist on
>  same server ( Unix Solaris 200 users )?

   Subversion memory requirements are not high, but I
   don't believe anyone has really done any measurements
   yet.  It seems to be mostly affected by operating system
   caching ability (so, as usual, the more memory, the
   faster it'll be).

>  4. How to configure the Subversion using SAN/NAS
>  storage ?

   If you use the "fsfs" backend, you can store a Subversion
   repository database on a remote volume just fine, so long
   as it supports POSIX locking.
   If you're on a Unix-style machine, just make sure it's
   mounted somewhere and that's it, nothing special.

>  My task is to install Subversion on Same machine
>  having ClearCase VOB server.

   Naturally, I assume you realise that Clearcase load
   will affect Subversions performance?

   Make sure you read over http://www.svnbook.org/

daniel

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