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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2017/09/11 03:58:15 UTC
Re: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Sorry for being silent,
That might save some space.
I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
back to this discussion
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the 'function hub'.
> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>
> Best regards
> Ed
>
>
> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>, "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
> Demo is updated
> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
> customize it :)
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com> wrote:
>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>
>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page Navigator.
>>
>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>
>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible frame of the
>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>> 2. Files panel
>>
>> This could possibly be done by combining
>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area. Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so that it appears on top.
>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>
>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top: "-=30" }, "fast");
>>
>> }, function() {
>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30" }, "fast");
>> });
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>
>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare, Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at: http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>
>> Hello Ed,
>>
>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool selection, ...).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>> |Just have updated https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/] with page
>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>
>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
ok... just stumble upon it today... ;-)
Am 30.10.2017 um 15:45 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> I have checked possibility of removing flash from network testing just today ...
> Unfortunately it is impossible :(((
> Port check can not be implemented without flash :(((
> So this would be 5.0.0 feature :)
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>> one more thing...
>>
>> flash in network-testing need to be removed... :-)
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 30.10.2017 um 13:39 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>
>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
>> start prototyping :)
>>
>> Collapsible user list
>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
>> visible without overlapping
>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>
>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>
>> What I propose is
>>
>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
>> server
>>
>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>
>>> That might save some space.
>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>> back to this discussion
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>> Demo is updated
>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
>>>> customize it :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>
>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>>>>> frame of the
>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>
>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>
>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>
>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>> });
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>
>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>> with page
>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I have checked possibility of removing flash from network testing just today ...
Unfortunately it is impossible :(((
Port check can not be implemented without flash :(((
So this would be 5.0.0 feature :)
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> one more thing...
>
> flash in network-testing need to be removed... :-)
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 13:39 schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>
> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
> start prototyping :)
>
> Collapsible user list
> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
> visible without overlapping
> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
> bigger avatars on mouse over
> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>
> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>
> What I propose is
>
> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
> server
>
> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for being silent,
>>
>> That might save some space.
>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>> back to this discussion
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>> > 'function hub'.
>> > The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>> > The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>> > The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>> > But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
>> > top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Ed
>> >
>> >
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>> > "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
>> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>> > OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>> > Demo is updated
>> > I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>> > You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
>> > customize it :)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>> >>
>> >> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
>> >> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
>> >> Navigator.
>> >>
>> >> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>> >> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>> >> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
>> >> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>> >> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>> >> frame of the
>> >> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
>> >> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
>> >> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>> >> 2. Files panel
>> >>
>> >> This could possibly be done by combining
>> >> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>> >> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>> >> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
>> >> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
>> >> that it appears on top.
>> >> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>> >>
>> >> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>> >> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>> >> "-=30" }, "fast");
>> >>
>> >> }, function() {
>> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>> >> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
>> >> }, "fast");
>> >> });
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Hemant K. Sabat
>> >>
>> >> Coscend Communications Solutions
>> >> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>> >> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>> >> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>> >> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>> >> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> >> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>> >>
>> >> Hello Ed,
>> >>
>> >> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>> >>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>> >>> selection, ...).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Ed
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> |Too silent thread :)))
>> >>> |Just have updated
>> >>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>> >>> with page
>> >>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WBR
>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> >> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
one more thing...
flash in network-testing need to be removed... :-)
Greetings Peter
Am 30.10.2017 um 13:39 schrieb Peter Dähn:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up
> to hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
> room. This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
> room (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>
>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>> I'll start prototyping :)
>>
>> 1. Collapsible user list
>> 2. It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>> simultaneously visible without overlapping
>> 3. enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>> 4. user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>> 5. bigger avatars on mouse over
>> 6. toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>
>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>
>> What I propose is
>>
>> 1. create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>> 2. start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>> 'on-next' demo server
>>
>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for being silent,
>>
>> That might save some space.
>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>> back to this discussion
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <dormitilla@gmx.de
>> <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>> the 'function hub'.
>> > The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>> > The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>> > The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>> > But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>> always on top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Ed
>> >
>> >
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>, "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com <ma...@coscend.com>>
>> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>> > OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>> > Demo is updated
>> > I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>> > You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>> anyone can
>> > customize it :)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM
>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com <ma...@coscend.com>> wrote:
>> >> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>> >>
>> >> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>> In the meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>> about the Page Navigator.
>> >>
>> >> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>> >> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>> file is removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>> items.
>> >> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>> collapsible frame of the
>> >> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>> we hover on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel.
>> When we move out of the panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files
>> panel and toolbar below.
>> >> 2. Files panel
>> >>
>> >> This could possibly be done by combining
>> >> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>> >> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>> area. Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>> expand towards bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be
>> higher than surrounding so that it appears on top.
>> >> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>> >>
>> >> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>> >> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>> top: "-=30" }, "fast");
>> >>
>> >> }, function() {
>> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>> >> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>> top: "+=30" }, "fast");
>> >> });
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Hemant K. Sabat
>> >>
>> >> Coscend Communications Solutions
>> >> www.Coscend.com
>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>> E-mail Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
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>> >> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>> >> To: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>> >> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com <ma...@coscend.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>> >>
>> >> Hello Ed,
>> >>
>> >> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <dormitilla@gmx.de
>> <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>> >>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>> tool selection, ...).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Ed
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> |Too silent thread :)))
>> >>> |Just have updated
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]>
>> with page
>> >>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WBR
>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: Screensharing in future...
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
I thought so... ;-) I just had a short look and it sounds good so far...
Am 16.11.2017 um 16:56 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Cool,
> Thanks for sharing will check its capabilities, maybe will contact
> developers :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this could
>> be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption while
>> screen-sharing.
>>
>> https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
>>
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> PS: It is not incubator any more
>>
>
>
Re: Screensharing in future...
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Hi all
Yea, Put OpenMeetings, Guacamole, and OpenOffice in a box, and you can get
something interesting ;-)
Regards Raphael
Am .11.2017, 16:56 Uhr, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> Cool,
> Thanks for sharing will check its capabilities, maybe will contact
> developers :)
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this
>> could
>> be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption while
>> screen-sharing.
>>
>> https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
>>
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> PS: It is not incubator any more
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Screensharing in future...
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Cool,
Thanks for sharing will check its capabilities, maybe will contact
developers :)
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this could
> be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption while
> screen-sharing.
>
> https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
>
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> PS: It is not incubator any more
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: german language xml
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1790
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> Thanks a lot for the translations :)
> CDATA is only necessary when it is required to mask some XML special
> characters
> It is added to almost all labels since this file is machine generated :)
>
> It is missing for some labels since missing ones were dded by hand :)
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I had a look at the German translation file. I found just a few little
>> things. See attachment.
>>
>> And I found that missing CDATA in the English file. Don't know if this
>> matters somehow.
>>
>>
>>
>> ok... also 64, 257, 1313, 1428, 1539
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
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Re: german language xml
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Peter,
Thanks a lot for the translations :)
CDATA is only necessary when it is required to mask some XML special
characters
It is added to almost all labels since this file is machine generated :)
It is missing for some labels since missing ones were dded by hand :)
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I had a look at the German translation file. I found just a few little
> things. See attachment.
>
> And I found that missing CDATA in the English file. Don't know if this
> matters somehow.
>
>
>
> ok... also 64, 257, 1313, 1428, 1539
>
> Greetings Peter
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
german language xml
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
I had a look at the German translation file. I found just a few little
things. See attachment.
And I found that missing CDATA in the English file. Don't know if this
matters somehow.
ok... also 64, 257, 1313, 1428, 1539
Greetings Peter
RE: Screensharing in future...
Posted by "Coscend@OM" <OM...@Coscend.com>.
Dear OpenMeetings Developers,
To add, "pre-configured machine" includes a few remote desktop servers such as VNC, RDP, SSH, telnet. What % of user computers does this cover?
Guacamole-server is independently installed.
Guacamole-client servlet embeds in Tomcat.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Hemant K. Sabat
Coscend Communications Solutions
www.Coscend.com
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From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 2:17 AM
To: dev <de...@openmeetings.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Screensharing in future...
Just look through guacamole docs ....
It seems to be VNC client/server :(((
So it is not allowing screen-sharing, it only allows access to some "pre-configured machine"
Will read docs more carefully later, and will write to the devs ...
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
> wrote:
> Great idea Peter!
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this
> could
> > be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption
> > while screen-sharing.
> >
> > https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
> >
> >
> > Greetings Peter
> >
> >
> > PS: It is not incubator any more
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Screensharing in future...
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Just look through guacamole docs ....
It seems to be VNC client/server :(((
So it is not allowing screen-sharing, it only allows access to some
"pre-configured machine"
Will read docs more carefully later, and will write to the devs ...
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
> wrote:
> Great idea Peter!
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this
> could
> > be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption while
> > screen-sharing.
> >
> > https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
> >
> >
> > Greetings Peter
> >
> >
> > PS: It is not incubator any more
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
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Re: Screensharing in future...
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
Great idea Peter!
On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this could
> be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption while
> screen-sharing.
>
> https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
>
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> PS: It is not incubator any more
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
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<https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/aplusadmin15>
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Screensharing in future...
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi there,
I found this project in the apache-bord meeting mail... I think this
could be interesting. Maybe this is the way to reduce cpu consumption
while screen-sharing.
https://guacamole.incubator.apache.org/
Greetings Peter
PS: It is not incubator any more
Re: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
On FF the only way to make it work:
1) type URL name in text area
2) select it using kbd or mouse
3) click "add link"
4) enter URL
5) click Add
This is by design, only can be work-arounded .....
On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM, K, Amit (MIND) <Am...@mind-infotech.com>
wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
>
>
> I checked it on demo server and found below:
>
>
>
> 1. Add URL is working on chrome server fine
>
> 2. But on Firefox (Version 56.0.1 (64-bit)) it is not working.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amit
>
>
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:15 PM
> *To:* K, Amit (MIND) <Am...@mind-infotech.com>
> *Cc:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard
> for 4.0.0
>
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1757
>
>
>
> Add URL works for me as expected on "demo next",
>
> Could you please double-check?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:05 PM, K, Amit (MIND) <Am...@mind-infotech.com>
> wrote:
>
> One more thing where in I have doubt. I just click on hyperlink button
> then it shows one text field having title “URL” and button “Add”. So I put
> a URL in text field then click on add but nothing happened.
>
>
>
> Am I doing something wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thakns,
>
> Amit
>
>
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:28 PM
> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for
> 4.0.0
>
>
>
> OK, let it be as it is now :))
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour
> like it is...
>
> By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable
> flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Additionally I would like to perform following change:
>
> Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
> disabled by user
>
> In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
>
>
>
> WDYT?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
>
>
>
> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>
>
>
> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar: https://issues.
> apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
>
>
>
> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is weird :((
>
> I'll double-check
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hello maxim.
>
>
>
> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>
>
>
> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when
> you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom
> level it may shows the page 45).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter,
>
>
>
> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
> file bundled :(
>
> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
> release bundle.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>
> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>
> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it together
> with some colleagues.
>
> Will be back with details asap...
>
> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>
>
> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>
> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
> week :))
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im using windows 10 / chrome
>
>
>
> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there
> is no problem with that.
>
> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>
> its ok now.
>
> thank you
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>
>
>
> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>
> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to
> the left in case of RTL)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hello maxim
>
> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>
> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
> chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>
>
>
> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes
> or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1
> min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have
> multiple users in the room with the same name.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server:
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>
> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>
>
>
> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>
>
>
> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.
> org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe
> you have to much free time... ;-)
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to
> change the layout to his needs"
>
> requires sort of templating ....
>
> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>
>
>
> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't
> had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to
> the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>
> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with
> is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
> zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the video pods
> "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any
> time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is
> above the whiteboards. Dan
>
>
>
> *[image: Inline image 1]*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the
> moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
> this layout also for the audience".
> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>
> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>
> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also a
> container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the
> container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to
> put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
> open for ideas... ;-)
>
> and another point for the list...
> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given
> moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room.
> This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed.
> The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible
> for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the
> default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is
> minimized or hidden.
>
>
>
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>
> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
> start prototyping :)
>
> Collapsible user list
> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
> visible without overlapping
> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
> bigger avatars on mouse over
> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>
> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>
> What I propose is
>
> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
> server
>
> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry for being silent,
>
> That might save some space.
> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
> back to this discussion
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
> 'function hub'.
> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>
> Best regards
> Ed
>
>
> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
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> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
> Demo is updated
> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
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> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
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> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
> Navigator.
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> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>
> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
> frame of the
> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of
> the
> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
> 2. Files panel
>
> This could possibly be done by combining
> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
> that it appears on top.
> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>
> // this is where the popping out effect happens
> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
> "-=30" }, "fast");
>
> }, function() {
> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
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> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>
> Hello Ed,
>
> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
> selection, ...).
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Ed
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RE: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for
4.0.0
Posted by "K, Amit (MIND)" <Am...@mind-infotech.com>.
Hi Maxim,
I checked it on demo server and found below:
1. Add URL is working on chrome server fine
2. But on Firefox (Version 56.0.1 (64-bit)) it is not working.
Thanks,
Amit
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:15 PM
To: K, Amit (MIND) <Am...@mind-infotech.com>
Cc: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1757
Add URL works for me as expected on "demo next",
Could you please double-check?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:05 PM, K, Amit (MIND) <Am...@mind-infotech.com>> wrote:
One more thing where in I have doubt. I just click on hyperlink button then it shows one text field having title “URL” and button “Add”. So I put a URL in text field then click on add but nothing happened.
Am I doing something wrong.
[cid:image001.png@01D36212.17898C20]
Thakns,
Amit
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:28 PM
To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
Subject: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
OK, let it be as it is now :))
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour like it is...
By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
Greetings Peter
Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Additionally I would like to perform following change:
Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly disabled by user
In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
WDYT?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is weird :((
I'll double-check
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello maxim.
when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in, depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom level it may shows the page 45).
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf file bundled :(
If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0 release bundle.
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
sorry, I was in another project these days...
right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it together with some colleagues.
Will be back with details asap...
Thanks so far... greetings Peter
Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Peter,
Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this week :))
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
im using windows 10 / chrome
and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there is no problem with that.
maybe that was mine browser issue.
its ok now.
thank you
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to the left in case of RTL)
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello maxim
i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have multiple users in the room with the same name.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello All,
The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
I will polish everything a little but major work is done
Would appreciate to get your comments :)
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is possible ... but not right now :)))
Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
Greetings Peter
Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs"
requires sort of templating ....
So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with is "put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on mouse over." We have implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
[Inline image 1]
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
and another point for the list...
It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is minimized or hidden.
Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
So room will be 'customized' for all users?
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
(presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
Greetings Peter
Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
OK, the VOTE has been started :)
So lets continue this discussion :)))
I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
start prototyping :)
Collapsible user list
It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
visible without overlapping
enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
bigger avatars on mouse over
toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
I believe all main ideas are listed above
What I propose is
create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
server
I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
Please let me know if I missed something :))
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Sorry for being silent,
That might save some space.
I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
back to this discussion
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Hi,
I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
'function hub'.
The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
The tools appears with the mouse over event.
The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
Best regards
Ed
Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>>
An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
"OM.Insights@Coscend.com"<ma...@Coscend.com> <OM...@coscend.com>>
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
Demo is updated
I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
customize it :)
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>>
wrote:
Dear OpenMeetings Community,
It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
Navigator.
The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
"real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
frame of the
1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
2. Files panel
This could possibly be done by combining
1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
that it appears on top.
$(".img a img").hover(function() {
$(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
// this is where the popping out effect happens
$(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
"-=30" }, "fast");
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$(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
$(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
}, "fast");
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Hello Ed,
what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Hi,
the new navigation bar looks realy good.
It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
selection, ...).
Best regards
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like chat/activities nowadays...
Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
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Re: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1757
Add URL works for me as expected on "demo next",
Could you please double-check?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:05 PM, K, Amit (MIND) <Am...@mind-infotech.com>
wrote:
> One more thing where in I have doubt. I just click on hyperlink button
> then it shows one text field having title “URL” and button “Add”. So I put
> a URL in text field then click on add but nothing happened.
>
>
>
> Am I doing something wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thakns,
>
> Amit
>
>
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:28 PM
> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for
> 4.0.0
>
>
>
> OK, let it be as it is now :))
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour
> like it is...
>
> By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable
> flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Additionally I would like to perform following change:
>
> Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
> disabled by user
>
> In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
>
>
>
> WDYT?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
>
>
>
> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>
>
>
> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar: https://issues.
> apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
>
>
>
> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is weird :((
>
> I'll double-check
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hello maxim.
>
>
>
> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>
>
>
> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when
> you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom
> level it may shows the page 45).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter,
>
>
>
> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
> file bundled :(
>
> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
> release bundle.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>
> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>
> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it together
> with some colleagues.
>
> Will be back with details asap...
>
> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>
>
> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>
> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
> week :))
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> im using windows 10 / chrome
>
>
>
> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there
> is no problem with that.
>
> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>
> its ok now.
>
> thank you
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>
>
>
> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>
> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to
> the left in case of RTL)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hello maxim
>
> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>
> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
> chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>
>
>
> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes
> or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1
> min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have
> multiple users in the room with the same name.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server:
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>
> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>
>
>
> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>
>
>
> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.
> org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe
> you have to much free time... ;-)
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to
> change the layout to his needs"
>
> requires sort of templating ....
>
> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>
>
>
> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't
> had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to
> the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>
> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with
> is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
> zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the video pods
> "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any
> time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is
> above the whiteboards. Dan
>
>
>
> *[image: Inline image 1]*
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the
> moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
> this layout also for the audience".
> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>
> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>
> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also a
> container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the
> container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to
> put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
> open for ideas... ;-)
>
> and another point for the list...
> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given
> moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room.
> This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed.
> The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible
> for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the
> default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is
> minimized or hidden.
>
>
>
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>
> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
> start prototyping :)
>
> Collapsible user list
> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
> visible without overlapping
> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
> bigger avatars on mouse over
> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>
> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>
> What I propose is
>
> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
> server
>
> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry for being silent,
>
> That might save some space.
> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
> back to this discussion
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
> 'function hub'.
> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>
> Best regards
> Ed
>
>
> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
> Demo is updated
> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
> customize it :)
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>
> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
> Navigator.
>
> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>
> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
> frame of the
> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of
> the
> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
> 2. Files panel
>
> This could possibly be done by combining
> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
> that it appears on top.
> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>
> // this is where the popping out effect happens
> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
> "-=30" }, "fast");
>
> }, function() {
> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
> }, "fast");
> });
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Hemant K. Sabat
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>
> Hello Ed,
>
> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
> selection, ...).
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Ed
>
>
> |Too silent thread :)))
> |Just have updated
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.
> alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps:/om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
> with page
> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> like chat/activities nowadays...
>
> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>
>
>
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RE: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for
4.0.0
Posted by "K, Amit (MIND)" <Am...@mind-infotech.com>.
One more thing where in I have doubt. I just click on hyperlink button then it shows one text field having title “URL” and button “Add”. So I put a URL in text field then click on add but nothing happened.
Am I doing something wrong.
[cid:image001.png@01D35E1F.05DA3520]
Thakns,
Amit
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:28 PM
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Subject: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
OK, let it be as it is now :))
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour like it is...
By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
Greetings Peter
Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Additionally I would like to perform following change:
Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly disabled by user
In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
WDYT?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is weird :((
I'll double-check
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello maxim.
when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in, depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom level it may shows the page 45).
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf file bundled :(
If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0 release bundle.
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
sorry, I was in another project these days...
right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it together with some colleagues.
Will be back with details asap...
Thanks so far... greetings Peter
Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Peter,
Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this week :))
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
im using windows 10 / chrome
and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there is no problem with that.
maybe that was mine browser issue.
its ok now.
thank you
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to the left in case of RTL)
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello maxim
i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have multiple users in the room with the same name.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello All,
The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
I will polish everything a little but major work is done
Would appreciate to get your comments :)
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is possible ... but not right now :)))
Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
Greetings Peter
Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs"
requires sort of templating ....
So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with is "put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on mouse over." We have implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
[Inline image 1]
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
and another point for the list...
It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is minimized or hidden.
Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
So room will be 'customized' for all users?
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
(presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
Greetings Peter
Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
OK, the VOTE has been started :)
So lets continue this discussion :)))
I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
start prototyping :)
Collapsible user list
It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
visible without overlapping
enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
bigger avatars on mouse over
toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
I believe all main ideas are listed above
What I propose is
create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
server
I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
Please let me know if I missed something :))
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Sorry for being silent,
That might save some space.
I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
back to this discussion
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Hi,
I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
'function hub'.
The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
The tools appears with the mouse over event.
The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
Best regards
Ed
Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>>
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Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
Demo is updated
I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
customize it :)
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>>
wrote:
Dear OpenMeetings Community,
It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
Navigator.
The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
"real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
frame of the
1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
2. Files panel
This could possibly be done by combining
1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
that it appears on top.
$(".img a img").hover(function() {
$(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
// this is where the popping out effect happens
$(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
"-=30" }, "fast");
}, function() {
$(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
$(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
}, "fast");
});
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Hemant K. Sabat
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Hello Ed,
what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Hi,
the new navigation bar looks realy good.
It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
selection, ...).
Best regards
Ed
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with page
|navigator Would love to get some input :)
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
like chat/activities nowadays...
Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
This a useful feature, especially if there is no shared video.
Dan
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Another issue is addressed: https://issues.apac
> he.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1763
> I would like to get some input :)
> Demo-next is updated :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, let it be as it is now :))
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour
>>> like it is...
>>>
>>> By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two...
>>> enable flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Additionally I would like to perform following change:
>>> Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
>>> disabled by user
>>> In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
>>>>
>>>> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>>>>
>>>> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is weird :((
>>>>> I'll double-check
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello maxim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
>>>>>> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50.
>>>>>> when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the
>>>>>> zoom level it may shows the page 45).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>>>>> release bundle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it
>>>>>>>>> again, there is no problem with that.
>>>>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the
>>>>>>>>>> right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is
>>>>>>>>>>> hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am
>>>>>>>>>>> idle for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i
>>>>>>>>>>> will have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on
>>>>>>>>>>>> demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wb x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adapt a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "function hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tooltip. When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding E-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nd_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Another issue is addressed: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
OPENMEETINGS-1763
I would like to get some input :)
Demo-next is updated :)
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> OK, let it be as it is now :))
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour
>> like it is...
>>
>> By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable
>> flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Additionally I would like to perform following change:
>> Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
>> disabled by user
>> In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
>>>
>>> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>>>
>>> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
>>>
>>> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is weird :((
>>>> I'll double-check
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hello maxim.
>>>>>
>>>>> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
>>>>> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>>>>>
>>>>> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50.
>>>>> when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the
>>>>> zoom level it may shows the page 45).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>>>> release bundle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it
>>>>>>>> again, there is no problem with that.
>>>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the
>>>>>>>>> right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is
>>>>>>>>>> hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for
>>>>>>>>>> 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am
>>>>>>>>>> idle for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i
>>>>>>>>>> will have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on
>>>>>>>>>>> demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> others ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wb x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adapt a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "function hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tooltip. When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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RE: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for
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Posted by "K, Amit (MIND)" <Am...@mind-infotech.com>.
Hi Maxim,
Emoji are not being sent in chat. As we send emoji icon and click on send button, it appends one row in chat area but emoji is not showing there.
Thanks,
Amit
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:28 PM
To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
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OK, let it be as it is now :))
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour like it is...
By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
Greetings Peter
Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Additionally I would like to perform following change:
Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly disabled by user
In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
WDYT?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is weird :((
I'll double-check
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello maxim.
when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in, depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom level it may shows the page 45).
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Peter,
please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf file bundled :(
If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0 release bundle.
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
sorry, I was in another project these days...
right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it together with some colleagues.
Will be back with details asap...
Thanks so far... greetings Peter
Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Peter,
Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this week :))
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
im using windows 10 / chrome
and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there is no problem with that.
maybe that was mine browser issue.
its ok now.
thank you
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to the left in case of RTL)
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
hello maxim
i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have multiple users in the room with the same name.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello All,
The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
I will polish everything a little but major work is done
Would appreciate to get your comments :)
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is possible ... but not right now :)))
Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
Greetings Peter
Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs"
requires sort of templating ....
So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with is "put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on mouse over." We have implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
[Inline image 1]
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
and another point for the list...
It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is minimized or hidden.
Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
So room will be 'customized' for all users?
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,
I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
(presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
Greetings Peter
Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
OK, the VOTE has been started :)
So lets continue this discussion :)))
I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
start prototyping :)
Collapsible user list
It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
visible without overlapping
enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
bigger avatars on mouse over
toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
I believe all main ideas are listed above
What I propose is
create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
server
I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
Please let me know if I missed something :))
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Sorry for being silent,
That might save some space.
I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
back to this discussion
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Hi,
I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
'function hub'.
The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
The tools appears with the mouse over event.
The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
Best regards
Ed
Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>>
An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
"OM.Insights@Coscend.com"<ma...@Coscend.com> <OM...@coscend.com>>
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
Demo is updated
I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
customize it :)
On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>>
wrote:
Dear OpenMeetings Community,
It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
Navigator.
The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
"real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
frame of the
1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
2. Files panel
This could possibly be done by combining
1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
that it appears on top.
$(".img a img").hover(function() {
$(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
// this is where the popping out effect happens
$(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
"-=30" }, "fast");
}, function() {
$(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
$(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
}, "fast");
});
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Hemant K. Sabat
Coscend Communications Solutions
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Hello Ed,
what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>> wrote:
Hi,
the new navigation bar looks realy good.
It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
selection, ...).
Best regards
Ed
|Too silent thread :)))
|Just have updated
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with page
|navigator Would love to get some input :)
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
like chat/activities nowadays...
Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
OK, let it be as it is now :))
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour
> like it is...
>
> By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two... enable
> flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Additionally I would like to perform following change:
> Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
> disabled by user
> In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
>
> WDYT?
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
>>
>> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>>
>> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
>>
>> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is weird :((
>>> I'll double-check
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello maxim.
>>>>
>>>> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
>>>> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>>>>
>>>> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50.
>>>> when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the
>>>> zoom level it may shows the page 45).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>>> release bundle.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the
>>>>>>>> right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is
>>>>>>>>> hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on
>>>>>>>>>> demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some
>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>> others ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tooltip. When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
in general I like more the opt-in-case... I would vote for the behaviour
like it is...
By now it is one click, if everything is configured... ok.. two...
enable flash... but I think this is absolutely fine!
Greetings Peter
Am 15.11.2017 um 04:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Additionally I would like to perform following change:
> Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
> disabled by user
> In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
>
> WDYT?
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755>
>
> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>
> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754>
>
> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> This is weird :((
> I'll double-check
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> hello maxim.
>
> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do
> zoom in, depending on the zoom level the pages of the
> document goes backward.
>
> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are
> at page 50. when you do zoom in, actually you will no see
> the page 50 (depend on the zoom level it may shows the
> page 45).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Peter,
>
> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds
> might not have main.swf file bundled :(
> If you will download such build please copy main.swf
> file from 4.0.0 release bundle.
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn
> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>
> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>
> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my
> server and check it together with some colleagues.
>
> Will be back with details asap...
>
> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Could you please check the new chat and provide
>> some feedback?
>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able
>> sidebar :))) (hopefully this week :))
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein
>> Dehghanpoor <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>
>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and
>> as i checked it again, there is no problem
>> with that.
>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>> its ok now.
>> thank you
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim
>> Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are
>> you using?
>>
>> In my tests chat is fully available as
>> soon as mouse is hover the area.
>> Additionally user click chat title bar
>> and it will dock to the right (to the
>> left in case of RTL)
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein
>> Dehghanpoor
>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hello maxim
>> i think that if you fix the chat
>> position would be better.
>> i can not write any texts in the chat
>> box. when the mouse is hover, the
>> chat box opens but after a second it
>> goes hidden again.
>>
>> as i noticed when i am using OM on
>> your server, if i go idle for 2
>> minutes or longer, i wont get
>> disconnected. but in my server when i
>> am idle for 1 min the connection
>> drops and i should login and as a
>> result i will have multiple users in
>> the room with the same name.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM,
>> Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> The chat is refactored, could you
>> please check the results on demo
>> server:
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next>
>> I will polish everything a little
>> but major work is done
>>
>> Would appreciate to get your
>> comments :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM,
>> Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> This is possible ... but not
>> right now :)))
>>
>> Here is the first issue:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10
>> PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just wanted to be written
>> down and probably get
>> some feedback... And
>> maybe you have to much
>> free time... ;-)
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46
>> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> I'm afraid functionality
>>> like this "Then the
>>> moderator has the
>>> ability to change the
>>> layout to his needs"
>>> requires sort of
>>> templating ....
>>> So CSS dynamically
>>> created by one user will
>>> be applied to others ....
>>>
>>> Let's move baby steps :)
>>> one by one :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at
>>> 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn
>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ok... I'm totally
>>> fine with it... I
>>> was just thinking...
>>> ;-) and I didn't had
>>> a version with
>>> "video-dock" right
>>> now... this one
>>> should be added to
>>> the list of
>>> resizeable and
>>> "savable" container...
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um
>>> 17:37 Chrissie
>>> Daniel Ascher:
>>>> I think these are
>>>> all good ideas
>>>> Peter. :) The only
>>>> thing I disagree
>>>> with is "/put the
>>>> videos in the
>>>> user-list for user
>>>> with activated
>>>> video... zoom on
>>>> mouse over." /We
>>>> have implemented an
>>>> area where the
>>>> video pods "dock"
>>>> when the meeting
>>>> starts, although
>>>> they can be
>>>> repositioned at any
>>>> time by the
>>>> participants. See
>>>> attached
>>>> screenshot. the
>>>> docking area is
>>>> above the
>>>> whiteboards. Dan
>>>> /
>>>> /
>>>> /Inline image 1
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30,
>>>> 2017 at 12:05 PM,
>>>> Peter Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think a
>>>> default layout
>>>> after creating
>>>> a room should
>>>> be loaded. Then
>>>> the moderator
>>>> has the ability
>>>> to change the
>>>> layout to his
>>>> needs (for the
>>>> specific
>>>> scenario) and
>>>> then could use
>>>> a
>>>> button/checkbox/whatever
>>>> to "use this
>>>> layout also for
>>>> the audience".
>>>> I think it
>>>> would be
>>>> possible to
>>>> save this
>>>> layout by
>>>> saving wb x/y
>>>> in %, chat x/y
>>>> in %,userlist
>>>> x/y in % and
>>>> a&a x/y in % to
>>>> use this layout
>>>> again. 0% would
>>>> be hidden. A
>>>> "reset to
>>>> default"-button
>>>> would also be
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> I think so we
>>>> doesn't need to
>>>> think about
>>>> additional room
>>>> types...
>>>>
>>>> Right now, I
>>>> think about
>>>> user
>>>> video-pods... I
>>>> think there
>>>> should be also
>>>> a container to
>>>> collect them.
>>>> And here it
>>>> should depend
>>>> on the size of
>>>> the container,
>>>> how they will
>>>> be displayed...
>>>> another
>>>> possibility
>>>> would be to put
>>>> the videos in
>>>> the user-list
>>>> for user with
>>>> activated
>>>> video... zoom
>>>> on mouse
>>>> over...
>>>> highlighted if
>>>> audio is
>>>> used...
>>>> something like
>>>> that.. I'm open
>>>> for ideas... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> and another
>>>> point for the
>>>> list...
>>>> It would be
>>>> great to
>>>> implement an
>>>> option, to put
>>>> the video-pod
>>>> of a given
>>>> moderator to a
>>>> fixed position
>>>> on the
>>>> whiteboard in a
>>>> presentation
>>>> room. This is
>>>> the place where
>>>> the video-pod
>>>> of the
>>>> moderator
>>>> should be
>>>> displayed. The
>>>> moderator just
>>>> leave this part
>>>> in his
>>>> presentation
>>>> blank and is
>>>> visible for the
>>>> audience. I
>>>> think for a
>>>> normal
>>>> presentation
>>>> this should be
>>>> the default
>>>> case for the
>>>> audience. Max
>>>> whiteboard and
>>>> chat and the
>>>> rest is
>>>> minimized or
>>>> hidden.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017
>>>> um 15:43
>>>> schrieb Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean
>>>> this
>>>> functionality
>>>> "all
>>>> container
>>>> (wb,
>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>> should be
>>>> re-sizable
>>>> up to
>>>> hidden"
>>>> should be
>>>> available
>>>> in Admin?
>>>> So room
>>>> will be
>>>> 'customized'
>>>> for all users?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct
>>>> 30, 2017 at
>>>> 7:39 PM,
>>>> Peter Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> I think
>>>> all
>>>> container
>>>> (wb,
>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>> should
>>>> be
>>>> resizeable
>>>> up to
>>>> hidden.
>>>> It
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> great
>>>> for a
>>>> moderator
>>>> to fix
>>>> a given
>>>> view of
>>>> a room.
>>>> This
>>>> would
>>>> give
>>>> the
>>>> possibility
>>>> for all
>>>> moderators
>>>> to
>>>> adapt a
>>>> room
>>>> (presentation
>>>> an
>>>> moderation)
>>>> to a
>>>> given
>>>> scenario.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am
>>>> 28.10.2017
>>>> um
>>>> 17:36
>>>> schrieb
>>>> Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> OK, the
>>>> VOTE
>>>> has
>>>> been
>>>> started :)
>>>> So lets
>>>> continue
>>>> this
>>>> discussion
>>>> :)))
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> looked
>>>> through
>>>> all
>>>> comments
>>>> and
>>>> will
>>>> try to
>>>> sum up
>>>> all
>>>> ideas
>>>> before I'll
>>>> start
>>>> prototyping
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Collapsible
>>>> user list
>>>> It
>>>> should
>>>> be
>>>> possible
>>>> to have
>>>> User
>>>> list,
>>>> WB,
>>>> Chat
>>>> and A&A
>>>> simultaneously
>>>> visible
>>>> without
>>>> overlapping
>>>> enter/leave
>>>> room in
>>>> a&a
>>>> should
>>>> disappear
>>>> after a
>>>> given
>>>> time (10s?)
>>>> user-list
>>>> sorting
>>>> by name
>>>> and by
>>>> latest
>>>> actions
>>>> bigger
>>>> avatars
>>>> on
>>>> mouse over
>>>> toolbar
>>>> can be
>>>> hidden
>>>> into
>>>> "zoom bar"
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> believe
>>>> all
>>>> main
>>>> ideas
>>>> are
>>>> listed
>>>> above
>>>>
>>>> What I
>>>> propose is
>>>>
>>>> create
>>>> JIRA
>>>> issues
>>>> for all
>>>> this
>>>> items
>>>> for 4.0.1
>>>> start
>>>> prototyping
>>>> and
>>>> periodically
>>>> discuss
>>>> results
>>>> using
>>>> 'on-next'
>>>> demo
>>>> server
>>>>
>>>> I'll
>>>> try to
>>>> start
>>>> as soon
>>>> as VOTE
>>>> for
>>>> 4.0.0
>>>> will be
>>>> over
>>>> Please
>>>> let me
>>>> know if
>>>> I
>>>> missed
>>>> something
>>>> :))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon,
>>>> Sep 11,
>>>> 2017 at
>>>> 10:58
>>>> AM,
>>>> Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik
>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry
>>>> for
>>>> being
>>>> silent,
>>>>
>>>> That
>>>> might
>>>> save
>>>> some
>>>> space.
>>>> I'm
>>>> going
>>>> to
>>>> finish
>>>> implementing
>>>> missing
>>>> features
>>>> in
>>>> 4.0.0
>>>> and get
>>>> back
>>>> to
>>>> this
>>>> discussion
>>>>
>>>> On
>>>> Mon,
>>>> Aug
>>>> 7,
>>>> 2017
>>>> at
>>>> 9:03
>>>> PM,
>>>> BBS
>>>> Technik
>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> did
>>>> a
>>>> small
>>>> sketch
>>>> (s.
>>>> attached
>>>> file)
>>>> to
>>>> describe
>>>> the
>>>> idea
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>> 'function
>>>> hub'.
>>>> The
>>>> concept
>>>> should
>>>> be:
>>>> 'one
>>>> point
>>>> of
>>>> interaction'.
>>>> The
>>>> tools
>>>> appears
>>>> with
>>>> the
>>>> mouse
>>>> over
>>>> event.
>>>> The
>>>> bar
>>>> could
>>>> be
>>>> expanded
>>>> with
>>>> Hermat's
>>>> idea.
>>>> But
>>>> I
>>>> think
>>>> it
>>>> should
>>>> also
>>>> be
>>>> an
>>>> option
>>>> to
>>>> have
>>>> the
>>>> user-panel
>>>> always
>>>> on
>>>> top
>>>> (like
>>>> now),
>>>> to
>>>> manage
>>>> discussions
>>>> dynamicly.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> regards
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet:
>>>> Montag,
>>>> 07.
>>>> August
>>>> 2017
>>>> um
>>>> 12:38
>>>> Uhr
>>>> Von:
>>>> "Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik"
>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>> An:
>>>> "Openmeetings
>>>> user-list"
>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>> Betreff:
>>>> Re:
>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>> HTML5
>>>> whiteboard
>>>> for
>>>> 4.0.0
>>>> OK,
>>>> page
>>>> and
>>>> zoom
>>>> controls
>>>> seems
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> implemented
>>>> Demo
>>>> is
>>>> updated
>>>> I'll
>>>> move
>>>> forward,
>>>> Look'n'feel
>>>> can
>>>> be
>>>> updated
>>>> later
>>>> :))
>>>> You
>>>> can
>>>> play
>>>> with
>>>> current
>>>> implementation
>>>> it
>>>> is
>>>> CSS
>>>> based
>>>> so
>>>> anyone
>>>> can
>>>> customize
>>>> it
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> On
>>>> Sun,
>>>> Aug
>>>> 6,
>>>> 2017
>>>> at
>>>> 3:51
>>>> AM,
>>>> Coscend@OM
>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear
>>>> OpenMeetings
>>>> Community,
>>>>
>>>> It
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> great
>>>> to
>>>> learn
>>>> about
>>>> Ed's
>>>> ideas
>>>> on
>>>> "function
>>>> hub".
>>>> In
>>>> the
>>>> meantime,
>>>> as
>>>> requested
>>>> by
>>>> Maxim,
>>>> here
>>>> are
>>>> our
>>>> thoughts
>>>> about
>>>> the
>>>> Page
>>>> Navigator.
>>>>
>>>> The
>>>> salient
>>>> part
>>>> is
>>>> the
>>>> navigator
>>>> appears
>>>> and
>>>> disappears
>>>> in
>>>> "real-time",
>>>> thereby
>>>> making
>>>> the
>>>> UI
>>>> more
>>>> user
>>>> friendly.
>>>> That
>>>> is,
>>>> 1.
>>>> when
>>>> a
>>>> file
>>>> is
>>>> displayed
>>>> and
>>>> disappears
>>>> when
>>>> the
>>>> displayed
>>>> file
>>>> is
>>>> removed.
>>>> This
>>>> gives
>>>> more
>>>> working
>>>> space
>>>> for
>>>> other
>>>> relevant
>>>> items.
>>>> 2.
>>>> only
>>>> on
>>>> the
>>>> whiteboard
>>>> where
>>>> there
>>>> is
>>>> a
>>>> displayed
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps
>>>> we
>>>> could
>>>> have
>>>> a
>>>> similar
>>>> "real-time"
>>>> expandable
>>>> /
>>>> collapsible
>>>> frame
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>> 1.
>>>> Users
>>>> panel:
>>>> Have
>>>> a
>>>> small
>>>> "Users"
>>>> icon
>>>> with
>>>> a
>>>> tooltip.
>>>> When
>>>> we
>>>> hover
>>>> on
>>>> this
>>>> icon,
>>>> it
>>>> will
>>>> expand
>>>> to
>>>> open
>>>> the
>>>> user
>>>> panel.
>>>> When
>>>> we
>>>> move
>>>> out
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>> panel,
>>>> it
>>>> will
>>>> collapse.
>>>> Ditto
>>>> for
>>>> Files
>>>> panel
>>>> and
>>>> toolbar
>>>> below.
>>>> 2.
>>>> Files
>>>> panel
>>>>
>>>> This
>>>> could
>>>> possibly
>>>> be
>>>> done
>>>> by
>>>> combining
>>>> 1.
>>>> https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>>>> 2.
>>>> Hover:
>>>> frames
>>>> and
>>>> divs
>>>> remain
>>>> inside
>>>> of
>>>> their
>>>> own
>>>> relative
>>>> area.
>>>> Animate
>>>> from
>>>> (0,0)
>>>> position
>>>> both
>>>> minus
>>>> values
>>>> so
>>>> that
>>>> they
>>>> expand
>>>> towards
>>>> bottom
>>>> right.
>>>> z-index
>>>> of
>>>> expanding
>>>> block
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> higher
>>>> than
>>>> surrounding
>>>> so
>>>> that
>>>> it
>>>> appears
>>>> on
>>>> top.
>>>> $(".img
>>>> a
>>>> img").hover(function()
>>>> {
>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>> 1);
>>>>
>>>> //
>>>> this
>>>> is
>>>> where
>>>> the
>>>> popping
>>>> out
>>>> effect
>>>> happens
>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>> height:
>>>> "800",
>>>> width:
>>>> "200",
>>>> left:
>>>> "-=30",
>>>> top:
>>>> "-=30"
>>>> },
>>>> "fast");
>>>>
>>>> },
>>>> function()
>>>> {
>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>> 0);
>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>> height:
>>>> "20",
>>>> width:
>>>> "20",
>>>> left:
>>>> "+=30",
>>>> top:
>>>> "+=30"
>>>> },
>>>> "fast");
>>>> });
>>>>
>>>> Thank
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Hemant
>>>> K.
>>>> Sabat
>>>>
>>>> Coscend
>>>> Communications
>>>> Solutions
>>>> www.Coscend.com
>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original
>>>> Message-----
>>>> From:
>>>> Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik
>>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>>>> Sent:
>>>> Saturday,
>>>> August
>>>> 5,
>>>> 2017
>>>> 9:19
>>>> AM
>>>> To:
>>>> Openmeetings
>>>> user-list
>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re:
>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>> HTML5
>>>> whiteboard
>>>> for
>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> what
>>>> do
>>>> you
>>>> mean
>>>> by
>>>> "It
>>>> should
>>>> be
>>>> expanded
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> new
>>>> fuction
>>>> hub"?
>>>>
>>>> On
>>>> Sat,
>>>> Aug
>>>> 5,
>>>> 2017
>>>> at
>>>> 5:24
>>>> PM,
>>>> BBS
>>>> Technik
>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>> new
>>>> navigation
>>>> bar
>>>> looks
>>>> realy
>>>> good.
>>>> It
>>>> should
>>>> be
>>>> expanded
>>>> to
>>>> a
>>>> new
>>>> fuction
>>>> hub
>>>> (colour
>>>> picker,
>>>> tool
>>>> selection,
>>>> ...).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> |Too
>>>> silent
>>>> thread
>>>> :)))
>>>> |Just
>>>> have
>>>> updated
>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>>>> with
>>>> page
>>>> |navigator
>>>> Would
>>>> love
>>>> to
>>>> get
>>>> some
>>>> input
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> On
>>>> Thu,
>>>> Jul
>>>> 13,
>>>> 2017
>>>> at
>>>> 10:50
>>>> PM,
>>>> Peter
>>>> Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> like
>>>> chat/activities
>>>> nowadays...
>>>>
>>>> Just
>>>> like
>>>> I
>>>> wanted
>>>> to
>>>> show
>>>> in
>>>> my
>>>> "mockup"
>>>> (see
>>>> attachment)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim
>>>> aka
>>>> solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
also possible... ;-)
Am 05.12.2017 um 10:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> I see no reason to remove "Send" button
> I believe it would be enough to change it's text
> I'm currently using ↵ entity from [1]
> This symbol can be changed on option change ....
>
> [1] https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html
>
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think this is good, both are general options I think.
>
> To visualize the current send mode send-button should be hidden or
> shown in the given case.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 05.12.2017 um 06:41 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Another option to display another chat option:
>>
>> 1) add "Gear" icon in place of current "Sound/Mute" icon
>> 2) add another drop-up menu with sound and send options
>> WDYT?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for ideas :)))
>> This sounds doable :)
>> I'll try to implement it, hopefully will be included in
>> 4.0.1, if not - will be first thing for 4.0.2 :))
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> you are right. This should be a choice of the user. But
>> in my case OM is used integrated. User doesn't get to
>> their profile. I think a REST-function also doesn't work.
>>
>> I think it need to be a checkbox? in the room, an there
>> in the chatpanel, because this setting is not needed
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> But where should we place it? Probably it is possible to
>> put a "toggle"-mark to the send-button. The meaning would
>> be, if it is hidden, send by enter is active if not, send
>> by button. This would also display the current state.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If this would be possible, I think a general "default
>> sending option" is needed.
>>
>> It seems to be nearly xmas... a lot of wishes... ;-)
>>
>> Is it possible in that way? Or do you have a better idea?
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 02.12.2017 um 10:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Seems to be done
>>> Could you please check?
>>>
>>> According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
>>> The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user,
>>> but I'm not sure where to put it :((((
>>> Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will try to implement this :)
>>> stay tuned :))
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn
>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>> Make sense ...
>>>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine.
>>>> Odf works on demoserver. My test system
>>>> give me an error. I think this come from
>>>> import an old setting for jod path via
>>>> restore. Need to be checked. I will do it
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> SendButton is saving now as much space as
>>>> possible. But I think I still would like to
>>>> have the option to send messages with
>>>> "Return" and New line with "Ctrl Return".
>>>> It is more comfortable if there is no need
>>>> to change from keyboard to mouse.
>>>>
>>>> And here is my mockup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I could already manage a few things via
>>>> css, and I think this is totally fine to
>>>> handle things like that, no need for a
>>>> general change. I just marked the three
>>>> things that are left (my point of view):
>>>>
>>>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date
>>>> in each message: time is enough and date
>>>> should be there in case the date of the
>>>> further message is different to the current
>>>> date
>>>>
>>>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of
>>>> the chat panel
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
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>>>
>>>
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> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I see no reason to remove "Send" button
I believe it would be enough to change it's text
I'm currently using ↵ entity from [1]
This symbol can be changed on option change ....
[1] https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think this is good, both are general options I think.
>
> To visualize the current send mode send-button should be hidden or shown
> in the given case.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 05.12.2017 um 06:41 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Another option to display another chat option:
>
> 1) add "Gear" icon in place of current "Sound/Mute" icon
> 2) add another drop-up menu with sound and send options
> WDYT?
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for ideas :)))
>> This sounds doable :)
>> I'll try to implement it, hopefully will be included in 4.0.1, if not -
>> will be first thing for 4.0.2 :))
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> you are right. This should be a choice of the user. But in my case OM is
>>> used integrated. User doesn't get to their profile. I think a REST-function
>>> also doesn't work.
>>>
>>> I think it need to be a checkbox? in the room, an there in the
>>> chatpanel, because this setting is not needed somewhere else.
>>>
>>> But where should we place it? Probably it is possible to put a
>>> "toggle"-mark to the send-button. The meaning would be, if it is hidden,
>>> send by enter is active if not, send by button. This would also display the
>>> current state.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this would be possible, I think a general "default sending option" is
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> It seems to be nearly xmas... a lot of wishes... ;-)
>>>
>>> Is it possible in that way? Or do you have a better idea?
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 02.12.2017 um 10:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Seems to be done
>>> Could you please check?
>>>
>>> According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
>>> The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user, but I'm not
>>> sure where to put it :((((
>>> Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will try to implement this :)
>>>> stay tuned :))
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sense ...
>>>>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My
>>>>>> test system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting
>>>>>> for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I
>>>>>> still would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New
>>>>>> line with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to
>>>>>> change from keyboard to mouse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here is my mockup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is
>>>>>> totally fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I
>>>>>> just marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
>>>>>> enough and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
>>>>>> different to the current date
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
I think this is good, both are general options I think.
To visualize the current send mode send-button should be hidden or shown
in the given case.
Greetings Peter
Am 05.12.2017 um 06:41 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Another option to display another chat option:
>
> 1) add "Gear" icon in place of current "Sound/Mute" icon
> 2) add another drop-up menu with sound and send options
> WDYT?
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for ideas :)))
> This sounds doable :)
> I'll try to implement it, hopefully will be included in 4.0.1, if
> not - will be first thing for 4.0.2 :))
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> you are right. This should be a choice of the user. But in my
> case OM is used integrated. User doesn't get to their profile.
> I think a REST-function also doesn't work.
>
> I think it need to be a checkbox? in the room, an there in the
> chatpanel, because this setting is not needed somewhere else.
>
> But where should we place it? Probably it is possible to put a
> "toggle"-mark to the send-button. The meaning would be, if it
> is hidden, send by enter is active if not, send by button.
> This would also display the current state.
>
>
>
>
> If this would be possible, I think a general "default sending
> option" is needed.
>
> It seems to be nearly xmas... a lot of wishes... ;-)
>
> Is it possible in that way? Or do you have a better idea?
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 02.12.2017 um 10:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Seems to be done
>> Could you please check?
>>
>> According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
>> The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user, but
>> I'm not sure where to put it :((((
>> Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Will try to implement this :)
>> stay tuned :))
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Make sense ...
>>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn
>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf
>>> works on demoserver. My test system give me an
>>> error. I think this come from import an old
>>> setting for jod path via restore. Need to be
>>> checked. I will do it later.
>>>
>>> SendButton is saving now as much space as
>>> possible. But I think I still would like to have
>>> the option to send messages with "Return" and
>>> New line with "Ctrl Return". It is more
>>> comfortable if there is no need to change from
>>> keyboard to mouse.
>>>
>>> And here is my mockup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could already manage a few things via css, and
>>> I think this is totally fine to handle things
>>> like that, no need for a general change. I just
>>> marked the three things that are left (my point
>>> of view):
>>>
>>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in
>>> each message: time is enough and date should be
>>> there in case the date of the further message is
>>> different to the current date
>>>
>>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the
>>> chat panel
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Another option to display another chat option:
1) add "Gear" icon in place of current "Sound/Mute" icon
2) add another drop-up menu with sound and send options
WDYT?
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for ideas :)))
> This sounds doable :)
> I'll try to implement it, hopefully will be included in 4.0.1, if not -
> will be first thing for 4.0.2 :))
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> you are right. This should be a choice of the user. But in my case OM is
>> used integrated. User doesn't get to their profile. I think a REST-function
>> also doesn't work.
>>
>> I think it need to be a checkbox? in the room, an there in the chatpanel,
>> because this setting is not needed somewhere else.
>>
>> But where should we place it? Probably it is possible to put a
>> "toggle"-mark to the send-button. The meaning would be, if it is hidden,
>> send by enter is active if not, send by button. This would also display the
>> current state.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If this would be possible, I think a general "default sending option" is
>> needed.
>>
>> It seems to be nearly xmas... a lot of wishes... ;-)
>>
>> Is it possible in that way? Or do you have a better idea?
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 02.12.2017 um 10:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Seems to be done
>> Could you please check?
>>
>> According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
>> The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user, but I'm not sure
>> where to put it :((((
>> Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Will try to implement this :)
>>> stay tuned :))
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Make sense ...
>>>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My
>>>>> test system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting
>>>>> for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>>>>
>>>>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I
>>>>> still would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New
>>>>> line with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to
>>>>> change from keyboard to mouse.
>>>>>
>>>>> And here is my mockup.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is
>>>>> totally fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I
>>>>> just marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
>>>>> enough and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
>>>>> different to the current date
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for ideas :)))
This sounds doable :)
I'll try to implement it, hopefully will be included in 4.0.1, if not -
will be first thing for 4.0.2 :))
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> you are right. This should be a choice of the user. But in my case OM is
> used integrated. User doesn't get to their profile. I think a REST-function
> also doesn't work.
>
> I think it need to be a checkbox? in the room, an there in the chatpanel,
> because this setting is not needed somewhere else.
>
> But where should we place it? Probably it is possible to put a
> "toggle"-mark to the send-button. The meaning would be, if it is hidden,
> send by enter is active if not, send by button. This would also display the
> current state.
>
>
>
>
> If this would be possible, I think a general "default sending option" is
> needed.
>
> It seems to be nearly xmas... a lot of wishes... ;-)
>
> Is it possible in that way? Or do you have a better idea?
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 02.12.2017 um 10:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Seems to be done
> Could you please check?
>
> According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
> The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user, but I'm not sure
> where to put it :((((
> Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Will try to implement this :)
>> stay tuned :))
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Make sense ...
>>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My
>>>> test system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting
>>>> for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>>>
>>>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I still
>>>> would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New line
>>>> with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to change
>>>> from keyboard to mouse.
>>>>
>>>> And here is my mockup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is
>>>> totally fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I
>>>> just marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>>>>
>>>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
>>>> enough and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
>>>> different to the current date
>>>>
>>>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
you are right. This should be a choice of the user. But in my case OM is
used integrated. User doesn't get to their profile. I think a
REST-function also doesn't work.
I think it need to be a checkbox? in the room, an there in the
chatpanel, because this setting is not needed somewhere else.
But where should we place it? Probably it is possible to put a
"toggle"-mark to the send-button. The meaning would be, if it is hidden,
send by enter is active if not, send by button. This would also display
the current state.
If this would be possible, I think a general "default sending option" is
needed.
It seems to be nearly xmas... a lot of wishes... ;-)
Is it possible in that way? Or do you have a better idea?
Greetings Peter
Am 02.12.2017 um 10:33 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Seems to be done
> Could you please check?
>
> According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
> The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user, but I'm not
> sure where to put it :((((
> Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Will try to implement this :)
> stay tuned :))
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>
>
>
> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Make sense ...
>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on
>> demoserver. My test system give me an error. I think this
>> come from import an old setting for jod path via restore.
>> Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>
>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I
>> think I still would like to have the option to send
>> messages with "Return" and New line with "Ctrl Return".
>> It is more comfortable if there is no need to change from
>> keyboard to mouse.
>>
>> And here is my mockup.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think
>> this is totally fine to handle things like that, no need
>> for a general change. I just marked the three things that
>> are left (my point of view):
>>
>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each
>> message: time is enough and date should be there in case
>> the date of the further message is different to the
>> current date
>>
>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Seems to be done
Could you please check?
According to send on Enter/Ctrl+Enter
The issue is: I believe this setting should be per-user, but I'm not sure
where to put it :((((
Maybe these settings should be in profile/edit?
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Will try to implement this :)
> stay tuned :))
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Make sense ...
>> And what about icons? where to put them?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My
>>> test system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting
>>> for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>>
>>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I still
>>> would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New line
>>> with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to change
>>> from keyboard to mouse.
>>>
>>> And here is my mockup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is totally
>>> fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I just
>>> marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>>>
>>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
>>> enough and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
>>> different to the current date
>>>
>>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Will try to implement this :)
stay tuned :))
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> this seems to be most compact... I think...
>
>
>
> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Make sense ...
> And what about icons? where to put them?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My test
>> system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting for
>> jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>
>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I still
>> would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New line
>> with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to change
>> from keyboard to mouse.
>>
>> And here is my mockup.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is totally
>> fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I just
>> marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>>
>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is enough
>> and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
>> different to the current date
>>
>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
this seems to be most compact... I think...
Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Make sense ...
> And what about icons? where to put them?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver.
> My test system give me an error. I think this come from import an
> old setting for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will
> do it later.
>
> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I
> still would like to have the option to send messages with "Return"
> and New line with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there
> is no need to change from keyboard to mouse.
>
> And here is my mockup.
>
>
>
>
> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is
> totally fine to handle things like that, no need for a general
> change. I just marked the three things that are left (my point of
> view):
>
> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
> enough and date should be there in case the date of the further
> message is different to the current date
>
> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Thanks :)))
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> sure.. the icons.... ;-)
>
> I will make them visible and think about where they should go... ;-) give
> me a second/hour...
>
>
>
> Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Make sense ...
> And what about icons? where to put them?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My test
>> system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting for
>> jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>>
>> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I still
>> would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New line
>> with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to change
>> from keyboard to mouse.
>>
>> And here is my mockup.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is totally
>> fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I just
>> marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>>
>> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is enough
>> and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
>> different to the current date
>>
>> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
sure.. the icons.... ;-)
I will make them visible and think about where they should go... ;-)
give me a second/hour...
Am 01.12.2017 um 09:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Make sense ...
> And what about icons? where to put them?
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver.
> My test system give me an error. I think this come from import an
> old setting for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will
> do it later.
>
> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I
> still would like to have the option to send messages with "Return"
> and New line with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there
> is no need to change from keyboard to mouse.
>
> And here is my mockup.
>
>
>
>
> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is
> totally fine to handle things like that, no need for a general
> change. I just marked the three things that are left (my point of
> view):
>
> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
> enough and date should be there in case the date of the further
> message is different to the current date
>
> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Make sense ...
And what about icons? where to put them?
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My test
> system give me an error. I think this come from import an old setting for
> jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
>
> SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I still
> would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New line
> with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to change
> from keyboard to mouse.
>
> And here is my mockup.
>
>
>
>
> I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is totally
> fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I just
> marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
>
> 1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is enough
> and date should be there in case the date of the further message is
> different to the current date
>
> 3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
Empty Messages and Save Chatlog is fine. Odf works on demoserver. My
test system give me an error. I think this come from import an old
setting for jod path via restore. Need to be checked. I will do it later.
SendButton is saving now as much space as possible. But I think I still
would like to have the option to send messages with "Return" and New
line with "Ctrl Return". It is more comfortable if there is no need to
change from keyboard to mouse.
And here is my mockup.
I could already manage a few things via css, and I think this is totally
fine to handle things like that, no need for a general change. I just
marked the three things that are left (my point of view):
1 and 2. there is no need to put the date in each message: time is
enough and date should be there in case the date of the further message
is different to the current date
3. Chat message should take hole width of the chat panel
Greetings Peter
Am 30.11.2017 um 07:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> "Empty message check" is improved
> "Save chatlog" is added
>
> help with testing is highly appreciated :)))
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot for testing!
> Looking forward to see mockups and examples of chat improvements :)))
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
> a&a autoclaen works as expected...
>
> Thanks for that... ;-)
>
> Am 28.11.2017 um 17:42 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Activities auto-clean is added:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1768
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1768>
>> Would appreciate if you can help with testing
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ODF import should be fixed:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769>
>>
>> Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
>>
>> I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using?
>> What is the error?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn
>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> jira is totally fine for me.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come
>>> true (c)Wishmaster
>>>
>>> :)))
>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>>>
>>> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments
>>> to JIRA issue and we can discuss it in JIRA?
>>> Will you have free time?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn
>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>>
>>> First of all, in general we are happy, but
>>> we have a few things that are not optimal
>>> (our point of view).
>>>
>>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>>
>>> a) send button not needed, please bind
>>> send-action to return-key (new line
>>> ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield
>>> and no need to change from keyboard to mouse
>>> b) date and time takes to much place ->
>>> date is not needed at all, once per date
>>> change or just as hover might be enough and
>>> smaller font for this should be used
>>> c) smaller font for names
>>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take
>>> place and doesn't make sense at least if OM
>>> is used integrated somehow -> could be
>>> hidden via css (see 8)
>>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...)
>>> should be collected like font size buttons
>>> -> this would give space for "mute sound"
>>> and "delete chatlog" buttons
>>>
>>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll
>>> horizontally, if more text is entered
>>> (vertically works)
>>>
>>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>>
>>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc.
>>> I think chosen font size shouldn't change
>>> for the session or till changed manually again
>>>
>>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>>
>>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with
>>> add button nothing is added, with return key
>>> a 500 internal error is shown. I also was
>>> able to add a link, but not sure under which
>>> circumstances. Anyway, those links should be
>>> open in an new tab/window.
>>>
>>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>>
>>> 8. to apply css changes easily please
>>> provide by default an empty css file (e.g.
>>> custom.css) that will be loaded at last,
>>> there could be collect all custom css
>>> changes, it would also be great if this one
>>> would be saved and restored while backup/restore
>>>
>>>
>>> One more thing, but this is in relation with
>>> the witheboard. Upload of .odf ends up with
>>> an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the
>>> document on the whiteboard has a huge empty
>>> part on the right side. And then zoom full
>>> page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me
>>> know. I think the usage of chat depends on
>>> the scenario one is working with... I think
>>> "an easy way" to customize a room with own
>>> css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore
>>> a few classes/ids are missing, to address an
>>> given element easily. But this we will see,
>>> if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>>
>>> I think we will need one or two more rounds
>>> and maybe a bit more discussion about this
>>> to get it to the final sate...
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>
>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT
>>>> builds might not have main.swf file bundled :(
>>>> If you will download such build please copy
>>>> main.swf file from 4.0.0 release bundle.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> sorry, I was in another project these
>>>> days...
>>>>
>>>> right now I had a short look at the
>>>> demo-server...
>>>>
>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it
>>>> on my server and check it together with
>>>> some colleagues.
>>>>
>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please check the new chat
>>>>> and provide some feedback?
>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on
>>>>> hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
>>>>> week :))
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM,
>>>>> Hossein Dehghanpoor
>>>>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>
>>>>> and of course i am testing with
>>>>> RTL mode. and as i checked it
>>>>> again, there is no problem with that.
>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>> thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM,
>>>>> Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll double-check, what
>>>>> browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my tests chat is fully
>>>>> available as soon as mouse is
>>>>> hover the area.
>>>>> Additionally user click chat
>>>>> title bar and it will dock to
>>>>> the right (to the left in case
>>>>> of RTL)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26
>>>>> AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
>>>>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>> i think that if you fix
>>>>> the chat position would be
>>>>> better.
>>>>> i can not write any texts
>>>>> in the chat box. when the
>>>>> mouse is hover, the chat
>>>>> box opens but after a
>>>>> second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>
>>>>> as i noticed when i am
>>>>> using OM on your server,
>>>>> if i go idle for 2 minutes
>>>>> or longer, i wont get
>>>>> disconnected. but in my
>>>>> server when i am idle for
>>>>> 1 min the connection drops
>>>>> and i should login and as
>>>>> a result i will have
>>>>> multiple users in the room
>>>>> with the same name.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at
>>>>> 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The chat is
>>>>> refactored, could you
>>>>> please check the
>>>>> results on demo
>>>>> server:
>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next>
>>>>> I will polish
>>>>> everything a little
>>>>> but major work is done
>>>>>
>>>>> Would appreciate to
>>>>> get your comments :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017
>>>>> at 1:08 PM, Maxim
>>>>> Solodovnik
>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is possible
>>>>> ... but not right
>>>>> now :)))
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the first
>>>>> issue:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2,
>>>>> 2017 at 7:10 PM,
>>>>> Peter Dähn
>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> just wanted to
>>>>> be written
>>>>> down and
>>>>> probably get
>>>>> some
>>>>> feedback...
>>>>> And maybe you
>>>>> have to much
>>>>> free time... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 31.10.2017
>>>>> um 04:46
>>>>> schrieb Maxim
>>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>>> I'm afraid
>>>>>> functionality
>>>>>> like this
>>>>>> "Then the
>>>>>> moderator has
>>>>>> the ability
>>>>>> to change the
>>>>>> layout to his
>>>>>> needs"
>>>>>> requires sort
>>>>>> of templating
>>>>>> ....
>>>>>> So CSS
>>>>>> dynamically
>>>>>> created by
>>>>>> one user will
>>>>>> be applied to
>>>>>> others ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's move
>>>>>> baby steps :)
>>>>>> one by one :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct
>>>>>> 30, 2017 at
>>>>>> 11:54 PM,
>>>>>> Peter Dähn
>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok... I'm
>>>>>> totally
>>>>>> fine with
>>>>>> it... I
>>>>>> was just
>>>>>> thinking...
>>>>>> ;-) and I
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> had a
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> "video-dock"
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> now...
>>>>>> this one
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> added to
>>>>>> the list
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> resizeable
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> "savable"
>>>>>> container...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am
>>>>>> 30.10.2017
>>>>>> um 17:37
>>>>>> Chrissie
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> Ascher:
>>>>>>> I think
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> are all
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>> :) The
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> thing I
>>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>>> with is
>>>>>>> "/put
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> videos
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> user-list
>>>>>>> for user
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> activated
>>>>>>> video...
>>>>>>> zoom on
>>>>>>> mouse
>>>>>>> over."
>>>>>>> /We have
>>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>> an area
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>> pods
>>>>>>> "dock"
>>>>>>> when the
>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>> starts,
>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> repositioned
>>>>>>> at any
>>>>>>> time by
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> participants.
>>>>>>> See
>>>>>>> attached
>>>>>>> screenshot.
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> docking
>>>>>>> area is
>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whiteboards.
>>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>> /Inline
>>>>>>> image 1
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon,
>>>>>>> Oct 30,
>>>>>>> 2017 at
>>>>>>> 12:05
>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> Dähn
>>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>> layout
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>> creating
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> loaded.
>>>>>>> Then
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> layout
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> (for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>> scenario)
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> "use
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> layout
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> audience".
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> save
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> layout
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> saving
>>>>>>> wb
>>>>>>> x/y
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> %,
>>>>>>> chat
>>>>>>> x/y
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> %,userlist
>>>>>>> x/y
>>>>>>> in %
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> a&a
>>>>>>> x/y
>>>>>>> in %
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> layout
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>> 0%
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> hidden.
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>> "reset
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> default"-button
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right
>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> video-pods...
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> container
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> collect
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> depend
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> size
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> container,
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> displayed...
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> videos
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> user-list
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> activated
>>>>>>> video...
>>>>>>> zoom
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> mouse
>>>>>>> over...
>>>>>>> highlighted
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> used...
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> that..
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> ideas...
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list...
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> implement
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> option,
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> video-pod
>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>> fixed
>>>>>>> position
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> video-pod
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> displayed.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>>> blank
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> visible
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> audience.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> audience.
>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> chat
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> minimized
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> hidden.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>> 30.10.2017
>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>> 15:43
>>>>>>> schrieb
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> functionality
>>>>>>> "all
>>>>>>> container
>>>>>>> (wb,
>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> re-sizable
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> hidden"
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> 'customized'
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> users?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Mon,
>>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>>> 30,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 7:39
>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> Dähn
>>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> container
>>>>>>> (wb,
>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> resizeable
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> hidden.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> moderators
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> adapt
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>> (presentation
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> moderation)
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> scenario.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am
>>>>>>> 28.10.2017
>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>> 17:36
>>>>>>> schrieb
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> VOTE
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> lets
>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>> :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> sum
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> prototyping
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Collapsible
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> User
>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>> WB,
>>>>>>> Chat
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> A&A
>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>> visible
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> overlapping
>>>>>>> enter/leave
>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a&a
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> disappear
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>> user-list
>>>>>>> sorting
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>> actions
>>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>>> avatars
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> mouse
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> toolbar
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> "zoom
>>>>>>> bar"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> main
>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> listed
>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> propose
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> items
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> 4.0.1
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> prototyping
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>> results
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> 'on-next'
>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> VOTE
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> missed
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Mon,
>>>>>>> Sep
>>>>>>> 11,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 10:58
>>>>>>> AM,
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik
>>>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> silent,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> save
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> finish
>>>>>>> implementing
>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>> features
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Mon,
>>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>>> 7,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 9:03
>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>> BBS
>>>>>>> Technik
>>>>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> sketch
>>>>>>> (s.
>>>>>>> attached
>>>>>>> file)
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> describe
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 'function
>>>>>>> hub'.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> concept
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be:
>>>>>>> 'one
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> interaction'.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> mouse
>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Hermat's
>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> user-panel
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>> (like
>>>>>>> now),
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> manage
>>>>>>> discussions
>>>>>>> dynamicly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gesendet:
>>>>>>> Montag,
>>>>>>> 07.
>>>>>>> August
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>> 12:38
>>>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>>> Von:
>>>>>>> "Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik"
>>>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> An:
>>>>>>> "Openmeetings
>>>>>>> user-list"
>>>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>>>>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>>>>> Betreff:
>>>>>>> Re:
>>>>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>>>>> HTML5
>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> zoom
>>>>>>> controls
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>> Demo
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>> forward,
>>>>>>> Look'n'feel
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>> :))
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> CSS
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> customize
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Sun,
>>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>>> 6,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 3:51
>>>>>>> AM,
>>>>>>> Coscend@OM
>>>>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear
>>>>>>> OpenMeetings
>>>>>>> Community,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> Ed's
>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> "function
>>>>>>> hub".
>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> meantime,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> requested
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> salient
>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> navigator
>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> "real-time",
>>>>>>> thereby
>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> friendly.
>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> space
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> relevant
>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>> "real-time"
>>>>>>> expandable
>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>> frame
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>> panel:
>>>>>>> Have
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> "Users"
>>>>>>> icon
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> tooltip.
>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> icon,
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>> panel.
>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> panel,
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> collapse.
>>>>>>> Ditto
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Files
>>>>>>> panel
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> toolbar
>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>> Files
>>>>>>> panel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> combining
>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>> https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>> Hover:
>>>>>>> frames
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> divs
>>>>>>> remain
>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>> relative
>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>> Animate
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> (0,0)
>>>>>>> position
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>> minus
>>>>>>> values
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>> bottom
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>> z-index
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> expanding
>>>>>>> block
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> surrounding
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> top.
>>>>>>> $(".img
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> img").hover(function()
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>>>>> 1);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> popping
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> effect
>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>>>>> height:
>>>>>>> "800",
>>>>>>> width:
>>>>>>> "200",
>>>>>>> left:
>>>>>>> "-=30",
>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>> "-=30"
>>>>>>> },
>>>>>>> "fast");
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> },
>>>>>>> function()
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>>>>> 0);
>>>>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>>>>> height:
>>>>>>> "20",
>>>>>>> width:
>>>>>>> "20",
>>>>>>> left:
>>>>>>> "+=30",
>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>> },
>>>>>>> "fast");
>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hemant
>>>>>>> K.
>>>>>>> Sabat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Coscend
>>>>>>> Communications
>>>>>>> Solutions
>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com
>>>>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>>>>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Real-time,
>>>>>>> Interactive
>>>>>>> Video
>>>>>>> Collaboration,
>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>> Tele-education,
>>>>>>> Telepresence
>>>>>>> Services,
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> fly…
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY
>>>>>>> NOTICE:
>>>>>>> See
>>>>>>> 'Confidentiality
>>>>>>> Notice
>>>>>>> Regarding
>>>>>>> E-mail
>>>>>>> Messages
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> Coscend
>>>>>>> Communications
>>>>>>> Solutions'
>>>>>>> posted
>>>>>>> at:
>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html%5Bhttp://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html%5D>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original
>>>>>>> Message-----
>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> Solodovnik
>>>>>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>>>>>>> Sent:
>>>>>>> Saturday,
>>>>>>> August
>>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> 9:19
>>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Openmeetings
>>>>>>> user-list
>>>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>
>>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>>> Re:
>>>>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>>>>> HTML5
>>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> "It
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> fuction
>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Sat,
>>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 5:24
>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>> BBS
>>>>>>> Technik
>>>>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> navigation
>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>> realy
>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> fuction
>>>>>>> hub
>>>>>>> (colour
>>>>>>> picker,
>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>> selection,
>>>>>>> ...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> |Too
>>>>>>> silent
>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>> :)))
>>>>>>> |Just
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> |navigator
>>>>>>> Would
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> input
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Thu,
>>>>>>> Jul
>>>>>>> 13,
>>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 10:50
>>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> Dähn
>>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> chat/activities
>>>>>>> nowadays...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> "mockup"
>>>>>>> (see
>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> aka
>>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> checked
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> viruses
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> AVG.
>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com
>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com>]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> aka
>>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> aka
>>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>>> aka
>>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>> Ascher,
>>>>>>> M.Ed.
>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>> A+ Test
>>>>>>> Prep and
>>>>>>> Tutoring
>>>>>>> "Creating
>>>>>>> Bright
>>>>>>> Futures"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 505 York
>>>>>>> Road,
>>>>>>> Suite 6
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Jenkintown,
>>>>>>> PA 19046
>>>>>>> Office:
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>215
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>.886.9188
>>>>>>> Direct:
>>>>>>> 267.242.9640
>>>>>>> Click
>>>>>>> here to
>>>>>>> schedule
>>>>>>> a phone
>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> with me.
>>>>>>> <https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/aplusadmin15>
>>>>>>> Sign Up
>>>>>>> for A+
>>>>>>> News and
>>>>>>> Test
>>>>>>> Prep
>>>>>>> Tips!
>>>>>>> <http://www.aplustutoring.com/sign-up-for-a-news>
>>>>>>> <http://aplustutoring.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
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>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
"Empty message check" is improved
"Save chatlog" is added
help with testing is highly appreciated :)))
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks a lot for testing!
> Looking forward to see mockups and examples of chat improvements :)))
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>> a&a autoclaen works as expected...
>>
>> Thanks for that... ;-)
>>
>> Am 28.11.2017 um 17:42 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Activities auto-clean is added: https://issues.apache.o
>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1768
>> Would appreciate if you can help with testing
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ODF import should be fixed: https://issues.apache.o
>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
>>>> Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
>>>>
>>>> I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using? What is the error?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> jira is totally fine for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
>>>>>
>>>>> :)))
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we
>>>>> can discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that
>>>>>> are not optimal (our point of view).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key
>>>>>> (new line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to change
>>>>>> from keyboard to mouse
>>>>>> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at
>>>>>> all, once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font
>>>>>> for this should be used
>>>>>> c) smaller font for names
>>>>>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make
>>>>>> sense at least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css
>>>>>> (see 8)
>>>>>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like
>>>>>> font size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
>>>>>> chatlog" buttons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
>>>>>> entered (vertically works)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
>>>>>> shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is
>>>>>> added, with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to
>>>>>> add a link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links
>>>>>> should be open in an new tab/window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty
>>>>>> css file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be
>>>>>> collect all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would be
>>>>>> saved and restored while backup/restore
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload
>>>>>> of .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document
>>>>>> on the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom
>>>>>> full page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of
>>>>>> chat depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy way"
>>>>>> to customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore a
>>>>>> few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element easily. But this
>>>>>> we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
>>>>>> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>>>> release bundle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it
>>>>>>>> again, there is no problem with that.
>>>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the
>>>>>>>>> right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is
>>>>>>>>>> hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for
>>>>>>>>>> 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am
>>>>>>>>>> idle for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i
>>>>>>>>>> will have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on
>>>>>>>>>>> demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> others ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wb x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adapt a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "function hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tooltip. When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Thanks a lot for testing!
Looking forward to see mockups and examples of chat improvements :)))
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
> a&a autoclaen works as expected...
>
> Thanks for that... ;-)
>
> Am 28.11.2017 um 17:42 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Activities auto-clean is added: https://issues.apache.
> org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1768
> Would appreciate if you can help with testing
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ODF import should be fixed: https://issues.apache.o
>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
>>> Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
>>>
>>> I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using? What is the error?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> jira is totally fine for me.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
>>>>
>>>> :)))
>>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>>>>
>>>> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we
>>>> can discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that
>>>>> are not optimal (our point of view).
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>>>>
>>>>> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key
>>>>> (new line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to change
>>>>> from keyboard to mouse
>>>>> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at all,
>>>>> once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font for
>>>>> this should be used
>>>>> c) smaller font for names
>>>>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make sense
>>>>> at least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
>>>>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like
>>>>> font size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
>>>>> chatlog" buttons
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
>>>>> entered (vertically works)
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
>>>>> shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is
>>>>> added, with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to
>>>>> add a link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links
>>>>> should be open in an new tab/window.
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty css
>>>>> file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be collect
>>>>> all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would be saved
>>>>> and restored while backup/restore
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload of
>>>>> .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document on
>>>>> the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom full
>>>>> page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of
>>>>> chat depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy way"
>>>>> to customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore a
>>>>> few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element easily. But this
>>>>> we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
>>>>> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>>> release bundle.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the
>>>>>>>> right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is
>>>>>>>>> hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on
>>>>>>>>>> demo server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some
>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback... And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>> others ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tooltip. When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
a&a autoclaen works as expected...
Thanks for that... ;-)
Am 28.11.2017 um 17:42 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Activities auto-clean is added:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1768
> Would appreciate if you can help with testing
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> ODF import should be fixed:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770>
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769>
> Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
>
> I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using? What is
> the error?
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> jira is totally fine for me.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true
>> (c)Wishmaster
>>
>> :)))
>> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>>
>> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA
>> issue and we can discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn
>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>
>> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a
>> few things that are not optimal (our point of view).
>>
>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>
>> a) send button not needed, please bind
>> send-action to return-key (new line ctrl+return) ->
>> more space for inputfield and no need to change from
>> keyboard to mouse
>> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is
>> not needed at all, once per date change or just as
>> hover might be enough and smaller font for this
>> should be used
>> c) smaller font for names
>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and
>> doesn't make sense at least if OM is used integrated
>> somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be
>> collected like font size buttons -> this would give
>> space for "mute sound" and "delete chatlog" buttons
>>
>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally,
>> if more text is entered (vertically works)
>>
>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>
>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think
>> chosen font size shouldn't change for the session or
>> till changed manually again
>>
>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>
>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add
>> button nothing is added, with return key a 500
>> internal error is shown. I also was able to add a
>> link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway,
>> those links should be open in an new tab/window.
>>
>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>
>> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by
>> default an empty css file (e.g. custom.css) that will
>> be loaded at last, there could be collect all custom
>> css changes, it would also be great if this one would
>> be saved and restored while backup/restore
>>
>>
>> One more thing, but this is in relation with the
>> witheboard. Upload of .odf ends up with an error. MS
>> and pdf seems to work, but the document on the
>> whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side.
>> And then zoom full page etc. doesn't show the
>> expected result.
>>
>>
>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I
>> think the usage of chat depends on the scenario one
>> is working with... I think "an easy way" to customize
>> a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe
>> therefore a few classes/ids are missing, to address
>> an given element easily. But this we will see, if
>> styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>
>> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe
>> a bit more discussion about this to get it to the
>> final sate...
>>
>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>
>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds
>>> might not have main.swf file bundled :(
>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf
>>> file from 4.0.0 release bundle.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn
>>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>
>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>
>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my
>>> server and check it together with some colleagues.
>>>
>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>
>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide
>>>> some feedback?
>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able
>>>> sidebar :))) (hopefully this week :))
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein
>>>> Dehghanpoor <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>
>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode.
>>>> and as i checked it again, there is no
>>>> problem with that.
>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>> its ok now.
>>>> thank you
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are
>>>> you using?
>>>>
>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as
>>>> soon as mouse is hover the area.
>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar
>>>> and it will dock to the right (to the
>>>> left in case of RTL)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM,
>>>> Hossein Dehghanpoor
>>>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello maxim
>>>> i think that if you fix the chat
>>>> position would be better.
>>>> i can not write any texts in the
>>>> chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>> the chat box opens but after a
>>>> second it goes hidden again.
>>>>
>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on
>>>> your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get
>>>> disconnected. but in my server when
>>>> i am idle for 1 min the connection
>>>> drops and i should login and as a
>>>> result i will have multiple users
>>>> in the room with the same name.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM,
>>>> Maxim Solodovnik
>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> The chat is refactored, could
>>>> you please check the results on
>>>> demo server:
>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next>
>>>> I will polish everything a
>>>> little but major work is done
>>>>
>>>> Would appreciate to get your
>>>> comments :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08
>>>> PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is possible ... but
>>>> not right now :)))
>>>>
>>>> Here is the first issue:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10
>>>> PM, Peter Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> just wanted to be
>>>> written down and
>>>> probably get some
>>>> feedback... And maybe
>>>> you have to much free
>>>> time... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46
>>>> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>> I'm afraid
>>>>> functionality like
>>>>> this "Then the
>>>>> moderator has the
>>>>> ability to change the
>>>>> layout to his needs"
>>>>> requires sort of
>>>>> templating ....
>>>>> So CSS dynamically
>>>>> created by one user
>>>>> will be applied to
>>>>> others ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's move baby steps
>>>>> :) one by one :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017
>>>>> at 11:54 PM, Peter
>>>>> Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ok... I'm totally
>>>>> fine with it... I
>>>>> was just
>>>>> thinking... ;-)
>>>>> and I didn't had a
>>>>> version with
>>>>> "video-dock" right
>>>>> now... this one
>>>>> should be added to
>>>>> the list of
>>>>> resizeable and
>>>>> "savable" container...
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um
>>>>> 17:37 Chrissie
>>>>> Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>> I think these are
>>>>>> all good ideas
>>>>>> Peter. :) The
>>>>>> only thing I
>>>>>> disagree with is
>>>>>> "/put the videos
>>>>>> in the user-list
>>>>>> for user with
>>>>>> activated
>>>>>> video... zoom on
>>>>>> mouse over." /We
>>>>>> have implemented
>>>>>> an area where the
>>>>>> video pods "dock"
>>>>>> when the meeting
>>>>>> starts, although
>>>>>> they can be
>>>>>> repositioned at
>>>>>> any time by the
>>>>>> participants. See
>>>>>> attached
>>>>>> screenshot. the
>>>>>> docking area is
>>>>>> above the
>>>>>> whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> /Inline image 1
>>>>>> /
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30,
>>>>>> 2017 at 12:05 PM,
>>>>>> Peter Dähn
>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think a
>>>>>> default
>>>>>> layout after
>>>>>> creating a
>>>>>> room should
>>>>>> be loaded.
>>>>>> Then the
>>>>>> moderator has
>>>>>> the ability
>>>>>> to change the
>>>>>> layout to his
>>>>>> needs (for
>>>>>> the specific
>>>>>> scenario) and
>>>>>> then could
>>>>>> use a
>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever
>>>>>> to "use this
>>>>>> layout also
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> audience".
>>>>>> I think it
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> possible to
>>>>>> save this
>>>>>> layout by
>>>>>> saving wb x/y
>>>>>> in %, chat
>>>>>> x/y in
>>>>>> %,userlist
>>>>>> x/y in % and
>>>>>> a&a x/y in %
>>>>>> to use this
>>>>>> layout again.
>>>>>> 0% would be
>>>>>> hidden. A
>>>>>> "reset to
>>>>>> default"-button
>>>>>> would also be
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think so we
>>>>>> doesn't need
>>>>>> to think
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> additional
>>>>>> room types...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, I
>>>>>> think about
>>>>>> user
>>>>>> video-pods...
>>>>>> I think there
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> also a
>>>>>> container to
>>>>>> collect them.
>>>>>> And here it
>>>>>> should depend
>>>>>> on the size
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> container,
>>>>>> how they will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> displayed...
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>> would be to
>>>>>> put the
>>>>>> videos in the
>>>>>> user-list for
>>>>>> user with
>>>>>> activated
>>>>>> video... zoom
>>>>>> on mouse
>>>>>> over...
>>>>>> highlighted
>>>>>> if audio is
>>>>>> used...
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> like that..
>>>>>> I'm open for
>>>>>> ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and another
>>>>>> point for the
>>>>>> list...
>>>>>> It would be
>>>>>> great to
>>>>>> implement an
>>>>>> option, to
>>>>>> put the
>>>>>> video-pod of
>>>>>> a given
>>>>>> moderator to
>>>>>> a fixed
>>>>>> position on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> whiteboard in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>> room. This is
>>>>>> the place
>>>>>> where the
>>>>>> video-pod of
>>>>>> the moderator
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> displayed.
>>>>>> The moderator
>>>>>> just leave
>>>>>> this part in
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>> blank and is
>>>>>> visible for
>>>>>> the audience.
>>>>>> I think for a
>>>>>> normal
>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>> this should
>>>>>> be the
>>>>>> default case
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> audience. Max
>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>> and chat and
>>>>>> the rest is
>>>>>> minimized or
>>>>>> hidden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017
>>>>>> um 15:43
>>>>>> schrieb Maxim
>>>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you
>>>>>> mean this
>>>>>> functionality
>>>>>> "all
>>>>>> container
>>>>>> (wb,
>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> re-sizable
>>>>>> up to
>>>>>> hidden"
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> in Admin?
>>>>>> So room
>>>>>> will be
>>>>>> 'customized'
>>>>>> for all
>>>>>> users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon,
>>>>>> Oct 30,
>>>>>> 2017 at
>>>>>> 7:39 PM,
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> Dähn
>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> container
>>>>>> (wb,
>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> resizeable
>>>>>> up to
>>>>>> hidden.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> for a
>>>>>> moderator
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> fix a
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> view
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> room.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> moderators
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> adapt
>>>>>> a room
>>>>>> (presentation
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> moderation)
>>>>>> to a
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> scenario.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am
>>>>>> 28.10.2017
>>>>>> um
>>>>>> 17:36
>>>>>> schrieb
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> VOTE
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> lets
>>>>>> continue
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>> :)))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> looked
>>>>>> through
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> sum
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> prototyping
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collapsible
>>>>>> user list
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> User
>>>>>> list,
>>>>>> WB,
>>>>>> Chat
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> A&A
>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>> visible
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> overlapping
>>>>>> enter/leave
>>>>>> room
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a&a
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> disappear
>>>>>> after
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> given
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>> user-list
>>>>>> sorting
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> latest
>>>>>> actions
>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>> avatars
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> mouse
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> toolbar
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> hidden
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> "zoom
>>>>>> bar"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> main
>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> listed
>>>>>> above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> propose
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create
>>>>>> JIRA
>>>>>> issues
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> items
>>>>>> for 4.0.1
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> prototyping
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>> results
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> 'on-next'
>>>>>> demo
>>>>>> server
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> soon
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> VOTE
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be over
>>>>>> Please
>>>>>> let
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> if I
>>>>>> missed
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Mon,
>>>>>> Sep
>>>>>> 11,
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 10:58
>>>>>> AM,
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> Solodovnik
>>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> silent,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> save
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> space.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> finish
>>>>>> implementing
>>>>>> missing
>>>>>> features
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Mon,
>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>> 7,
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 9:03
>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>> BBS
>>>>>> Technik
>>>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> did
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> small
>>>>>> sketch
>>>>>> (s.
>>>>>> attached
>>>>>> file)
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> describe
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 'function
>>>>>> hub'.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> concept
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be:
>>>>>> 'one
>>>>>> point
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> interaction'.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>> appears
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mouse
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> event.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> bar
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Hermat's
>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> option
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> user-panel
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> top
>>>>>> (like
>>>>>> now),
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> manage
>>>>>> discussions
>>>>>> dynamicly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gesendet:
>>>>>> Montag,
>>>>>> 07.
>>>>>> August
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> um
>>>>>> 12:38
>>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>> Von:
>>>>>> "Maxim
>>>>>> Solodovnik"
>>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> An:
>>>>>> "Openmeetings
>>>>>> user-list"
>>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>>>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>>>> Betreff:
>>>>>> Re:
>>>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>>>> HTML5
>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> zoom
>>>>>> controls
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>> Demo
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> updated
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> move
>>>>>> forward,
>>>>>> Look'n'feel
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> updated
>>>>>> later
>>>>>> :))
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> play
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> CSS
>>>>>> based
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> customize
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Sun,
>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>> 6,
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 3:51
>>>>>> AM,
>>>>>> Coscend@OM
>>>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear
>>>>>> OpenMeetings
>>>>>> Community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> Ed's
>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> "function
>>>>>> hub".
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> meantime,
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> requested
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Page
>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> salient
>>>>>> part
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> navigator
>>>>>> appears
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> "real-time",
>>>>>> thereby
>>>>>> making
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> UI
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> user
>>>>>> friendly.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> is,
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> gives
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> space
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> relevant
>>>>>> items.
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>> "real-time"
>>>>>> expandable
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>> frame
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> Users
>>>>>> panel:
>>>>>> Have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> small
>>>>>> "Users"
>>>>>> icon
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> tooltip.
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> hover
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> icon,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> expand
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> user
>>>>>> panel.
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> move
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> panel,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> collapse.
>>>>>> Ditto
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> Files
>>>>>> panel
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> toolbar
>>>>>> below.
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> Files
>>>>>> panel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> combining
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> Hover:
>>>>>> frames
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> divs
>>>>>> remain
>>>>>> inside
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> relative
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> Animate
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> (0,0)
>>>>>> position
>>>>>> both
>>>>>> minus
>>>>>> values
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> expand
>>>>>> towards
>>>>>> bottom
>>>>>> right.
>>>>>> z-index
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> expanding
>>>>>> block
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> higher
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> surrounding
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> appears
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> top.
>>>>>> $(".img
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> img").hover(function()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>>>> 1);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> popping
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> effect
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>>>> height:
>>>>>> "800",
>>>>>> width:
>>>>>> "200",
>>>>>> left:
>>>>>> "-=30",
>>>>>> top:
>>>>>> "-=30"
>>>>>> },
>>>>>> "fast");
>>>>>>
>>>>>> },
>>>>>> function()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>>>> 0);
>>>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>>>> height:
>>>>>> "20",
>>>>>> width:
>>>>>> "20",
>>>>>> left:
>>>>>> "+=30",
>>>>>> top:
>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>> },
>>>>>> "fast");
>>>>>> });
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hemant
>>>>>> K.
>>>>>> Sabat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coscend
>>>>>> Communications
>>>>>> Solutions
>>>>>> www.Coscend.com
>>>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>>>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>> Interactive
>>>>>> Video
>>>>>> Collaboration,
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>>>>>> Tele-education,
>>>>>> Telepresence
>>>>>> Services,
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>>>>>> fly…
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>>>>>> NOTICE:
>>>>>> See
>>>>>> 'Confidentiality
>>>>>> Notice
>>>>>> Regarding
>>>>>> E-mail
>>>>>> Messages
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Coscend
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>>>>>> Solutions'
>>>>>> posted
>>>>>> at:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original
>>>>>> Message-----
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> Solodovnik
>>>>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>>>>>> Sent:
>>>>>> Saturday,
>>>>>> August
>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> 9:19
>>>>>> AM
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> Openmeetings
>>>>>> user-list
>>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>
>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>> Re:
>>>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>>>> HTML5
>>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> 4.0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> mean
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> "It
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> fuction
>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Sat,
>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 5:24
>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>> BBS
>>>>>> Technik
>>>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> navigation
>>>>>> bar
>>>>>> looks
>>>>>> realy
>>>>>> good.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> fuction
>>>>>> hub
>>>>>> (colour
>>>>>> picker,
>>>>>> tool
>>>>>> selection,
>>>>>> ...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |Too
>>>>>> silent
>>>>>> thread
>>>>>> :)))
>>>>>> |Just
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> updated
>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> |navigator
>>>>>> Would
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> input
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Thu,
>>>>>> Jul
>>>>>> 13,
>>>>>> 2017
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 10:50
>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> Dähn
>>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> chat/activities
>>>>>> nowadays...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> show
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> "mockup"
>>>>>> (see
>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> aka
>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> email
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> checked
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> viruses
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> AVG.
>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com
>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com>]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> aka
>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> aka
>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim
>>>>>> aka
>>>>>> solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>>>>> President
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>>>>>> "Creating Bright
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>>>>> WBR
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>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> WBR
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Activities auto-clean is added:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1768
Would appreciate if you can help with testing
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> ODF import should be fixed: https://issues.apache.
> org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
>> Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
>>
>> I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using? What is the error?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> jira is totally fine for me.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
>>>
>>> :)))
>>> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>>>
>>> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we can
>>> discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that
>>>> are not optimal (our point of view).
>>>>
>>>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>>>
>>>> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key
>>>> (new line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to change
>>>> from keyboard to mouse
>>>> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at all,
>>>> once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font for
>>>> this should be used
>>>> c) smaller font for names
>>>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make sense
>>>> at least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
>>>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like
>>>> font size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
>>>> chatlog" buttons
>>>>
>>>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
>>>> entered (vertically works)
>>>>
>>>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>>>
>>>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
>>>> shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>>>>
>>>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>>>
>>>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is
>>>> added, with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to
>>>> add a link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links
>>>> should be open in an new tab/window.
>>>>
>>>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>>>
>>>> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty css
>>>> file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be collect
>>>> all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would be saved
>>>> and restored while backup/restore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload of
>>>> .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document on
>>>> the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom full
>>>> page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of
>>>> chat depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy way"
>>>> to customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore a
>>>> few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element easily. But this
>>>> we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>>>
>>>> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
>>>> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>
>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>> release bundle.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>
>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>
>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
ODF import should be fixed:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1770
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
> Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
>
> I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using? What is the error?
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> jira is totally fine for me.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
>>
>> :)))
>> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>>
>> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we can
>> discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>>
>>> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that are
>>> not optimal (our point of view).
>>>
>>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>>
>>> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key
>>> (new line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to change
>>> from keyboard to mouse
>>> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at all,
>>> once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font for
>>> this should be used
>>> c) smaller font for names
>>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make sense
>>> at least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
>>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like
>>> font size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
>>> chatlog" buttons
>>>
>>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
>>> entered (vertically works)
>>>
>>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>>
>>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
>>> shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>>>
>>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>>
>>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is
>>> added, with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to
>>> add a link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links
>>> should be open in an new tab/window.
>>>
>>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>>
>>> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty css
>>> file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be collect
>>> all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would be saved
>>> and restored while backup/restore
>>>
>>>
>>> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload of
>>> .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document on
>>> the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom full
>>> page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of
>>> chat depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy way"
>>> to customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore a
>>> few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element easily. But this
>>> we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>>
>>> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
>>> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>
>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>> release bundle.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>
>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>
>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>
>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>> this week :))
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>
>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>> thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769
Will wait for comments/clarifications :)
I'll check *.odf upload ASAP, what OS are you using? What is the error?
On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> jira is totally fine for me.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
>
> :)))
> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>
> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we can
> discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> finally my feedback to new chat.
>>
>> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that are
>> not optimal (our point of view).
>>
>> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>>
>> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key (new
>> line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to change from
>> keyboard to mouse
>> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at all,
>> once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font for
>> this should be used
>> c) smaller font for names
>> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make sense at
>> least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
>> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like font
>> size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
>> chatlog" buttons
>>
>> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
>> entered (vertically works)
>>
>> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>>
>> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
>> shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>>
>> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>>
>> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is added,
>> with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to add a
>> link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links should be
>> open in an new tab/window.
>>
>> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>>
>> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty css
>> file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be collect
>> all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would be saved
>> and restored while backup/restore
>>
>>
>> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload of
>> .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document on
>> the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom full
>> page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>>
>>
>> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of chat
>> depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy way" to
>> customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore a
>> few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element easily. But this
>> we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>>
>> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
>> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>>
>> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Thanks Peter,
>>
>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
>> file bundled :(
>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>> release bundle.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>
>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>
>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>
>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>
>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
>>> week :))
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>
>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>> its ok now.
>>>> thank you
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an
>>>>>>>>>> area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can
>>>>>>>>>> be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>>>> the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should
>>>>>>>>>>> be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size
>>>>>>>>>>> of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
>>>>>>>>>>> be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom
>>>>>>>>>>> on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
jira is totally fine for me.
Greetings Peter
Am 23.11.2017 um 10:50 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
>
> :)))
> Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
>
> Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we
> can discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> finally my feedback to new chat.
>
> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things
> that are not optimal (our point of view).
>
> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>
> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to
> return-key (new line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and
> no need to change from keyboard to mouse
> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at
> all, once per date change or just as hover might be enough and
> smaller font for this should be used
> c) smaller font for names
> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make
> sense at least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden
> via css (see 8)
> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected
> like font size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound"
> and "delete chatlog" buttons
>
> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text
> is entered (vertically works)
>
> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>
> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font
> size shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>
> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>
> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is
> added, with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was
> able to add a link, but not sure under which circumstances.
> Anyway, those links should be open in an new tab/window.
>
> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>
> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty
> css file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there
> could be collect all custom css changes, it would also be great if
> this one would be saved and restored while backup/restore
>
>
> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard.
> Upload of .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work,
> but the document on the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the
> right side. And then zoom full page etc. doesn't show the expected
> result.
>
>
> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage
> of chat depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an
> easy way" to customize a room with own css could help people a
> lot. Maybe therefore a few classes/ids are missing, to address an
> given element easily. But this we will see, if styling is used
> more frequent, I think.
>
> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>
> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
> Peter
>
>
>
> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Thanks Peter,
>>
>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>> main.swf file bundled :(
>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from
>> 4.0.0 release bundle.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>
>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>
>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and
>> check it together with some colleagues.
>>
>> Will be back with details asap...
>>
>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :)))
>>> (hopefully this week :))
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
>>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>
>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i
>>> checked it again, there is no problem with that.
>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>> its ok now.
>>> thank you
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>
>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse
>>> is hover the area.
>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will
>>> dock to the right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
>>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hello maxim
>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would
>>> be better.
>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when
>>> the mouse is hover, the chat box opens but after
>>> a second it goes hidden again.
>>>
>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server,
>>> if i go idle for 2 minutes or longer, i wont get
>>> disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should
>>> login and as a result i will have multiple users
>>> in the room with the same name.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim
>>> Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> The chat is refactored, could you please
>>> check the results on demo server:
>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next>
>>> I will polish everything a little but major
>>> work is done
>>>
>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim
>>> Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>
>>> Here is the first issue:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter
>>> Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> just wanted to be written down and
>>> probably get some feedback... And
>>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim
>>> Solodovnik:
>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this
>>>> "Then the moderator has the ability
>>>> to change the layout to his needs"
>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one
>>>> user will be applied to others ....
>>>>
>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM,
>>>> Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with
>>>> it... I was just thinking...
>>>> ;-) and I didn't had a version
>>>> with "video-dock" right now...
>>>> this one should be added to the
>>>> list of resizeable and
>>>> "savable" container...
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie
>>>> Daniel Ascher:
>>>>> I think these are all good
>>>>> ideas Peter. :) The only thing
>>>>> I disagree with is "/put the
>>>>> videos in the user-list for
>>>>> user with activated video...
>>>>> zoom on mouse over." /We have
>>>>> implemented an area where the
>>>>> video pods "dock" when the
>>>>> meeting starts, although they
>>>>> can be repositioned at any
>>>>> time by the participants. See
>>>>> attached screenshot. the
>>>>> docking area is above the
>>>>> whiteboards. Dan
>>>>> /
>>>>> /
>>>>> /Inline image 1
>>>>> /
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05
>>>>> PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a default layout
>>>>> after creating a room
>>>>> should be loaded. Then the
>>>>> moderator has the ability
>>>>> to change the layout to
>>>>> his needs (for the
>>>>> specific scenario) and
>>>>> then could use a
>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever
>>>>> to "use this layout also
>>>>> for the audience".
>>>>> I think it would be
>>>>> possible to save this
>>>>> layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist
>>>>> x/y in % and a&a x/y in %
>>>>> to use this layout again.
>>>>> 0% would be hidden. A
>>>>> "reset to default"-button
>>>>> would also be needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think so we doesn't need
>>>>> to think about additional
>>>>> room types...
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, I think about
>>>>> user video-pods... I think
>>>>> there should be also a
>>>>> container to collect them.
>>>>> And here it should depend
>>>>> on the size of the
>>>>> container, how they will
>>>>> be displayed... another
>>>>> possibility would be to
>>>>> put the videos in the
>>>>> user-list for user with
>>>>> activated video... zoom on
>>>>> mouse over... highlighted
>>>>> if audio is used...
>>>>> something like that.. I'm
>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> and another point for the
>>>>> list...
>>>>> It would be great to
>>>>> implement an option, to
>>>>> put the video-pod of a
>>>>> given moderator to a fixed
>>>>> position on the whiteboard
>>>>> in a presentation room.
>>>>> This is the place where
>>>>> the video-pod of the
>>>>> moderator should be
>>>>> displayed. The moderator
>>>>> just leave this part in
>>>>> his presentation blank and
>>>>> is visible for the
>>>>> audience. I think for a
>>>>> normal presentation this
>>>>> should be the default case
>>>>> for the audience. Max
>>>>> whiteboard and chat and
>>>>> the rest is minimized or
>>>>> hidden.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43
>>>>> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean this
>>>>> functionality "all
>>>>> container (wb,
>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>> should be re-sizable
>>>>> up to hidden" should
>>>>> be available in Admin?
>>>>> So room will be
>>>>> 'customized' for all
>>>>> users?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017
>>>>> at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn
>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think all
>>>>> container (wb,
>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>> should be
>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>> hidden. It would
>>>>> be great for a
>>>>> moderator to fix a
>>>>> given view of a room.
>>>>> This would give
>>>>> the possibility
>>>>> for all moderators
>>>>> to adapt a room
>>>>> (presentation an
>>>>> moderation) to a
>>>>> given scenario.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um
>>>>> 17:36 schrieb
>>>>> Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, the VOTE has
>>>>> been started :)
>>>>> So lets continue
>>>>> this discussion :)))
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked through
>>>>> all comments and
>>>>> will try to sum up
>>>>> all ideas before I'll
>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>> It should be
>>>>> possible to have
>>>>> User list, WB,
>>>>> Chat and A&A
>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>> visible without
>>>>> overlapping
>>>>> enter/leave room
>>>>> in a&a should
>>>>> disappear after a
>>>>> given time (10s?)
>>>>> user-list sorting
>>>>> by name and by
>>>>> latest actions
>>>>> bigger avatars on
>>>>> mouse over
>>>>> toolbar can be
>>>>> hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe all main
>>>>> ideas are listed above
>>>>>
>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>
>>>>> create JIRA issues
>>>>> for all this items
>>>>> for 4.0.1
>>>>> start prototyping
>>>>> and periodically
>>>>> discuss results
>>>>> using 'on-next' demo
>>>>> server
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to start
>>>>> as soon as VOTE
>>>>> for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>> Please let me know
>>>>> if I missed
>>>>> something :))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11,
>>>>> 2017 at 10:58 AM,
>>>>> Maxim Solodovnik
>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for
>>>>> being silent,
>>>>>
>>>>> That might
>>>>> save some space.
>>>>> I'm going to
>>>>> finish
>>>>> implementing
>>>>> missing
>>>>> features in
>>>>> 4.0.0 and get
>>>>> back to this
>>>>> discussion
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7,
>>>>> 2017 at 9:03
>>>>> PM, BBS
>>>>> Technik
>>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a
>>>>> small
>>>>> sketch (s.
>>>>> attached
>>>>> file) to
>>>>> describe
>>>>> the idea
>>>>> of the
>>>>> 'function
>>>>> hub'.
>>>>> The
>>>>> concept
>>>>> should be:
>>>>> 'one point
>>>>> of
>>>>> interaction'.
>>>>> The tools
>>>>> appears
>>>>> with the
>>>>> mouse over
>>>>> event.
>>>>> The bar
>>>>> could be
>>>>> expanded
>>>>> with
>>>>> Hermat's idea.
>>>>> But I
>>>>> think it
>>>>> should
>>>>> also be an
>>>>> option to
>>>>> have the
>>>>> user-panel
>>>>> always on
>>>>> top (like
>>>>> now), to
>>>>> manage
>>>>> discussions
>>>>> dynamicly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gesendet:
>>>>> Montag,
>>>>> 07. August
>>>>> 2017 um
>>>>> 12:38 Uhr
>>>>> Von:
>>>>> "Maxim
>>>>> Solodovnik"
>>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> An:
>>>>> "Openmeetings
>>>>> user-list"
>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>>> Betreff:
>>>>> Re:
>>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>>> HTML5
>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>> for 4.0.0
>>>>> OK, page
>>>>> and zoom
>>>>> controls
>>>>> seems to
>>>>> be implemented
>>>>> Demo is
>>>>> updated
>>>>> I'll move
>>>>> forward,
>>>>> Look'n'feel
>>>>> can be
>>>>> updated
>>>>> later :))
>>>>> You can
>>>>> play with
>>>>> current
>>>>> implementation
>>>>> it is CSS
>>>>> based so
>>>>> anyone can
>>>>> customize
>>>>> it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun,
>>>>> Aug 6,
>>>>> 2017 at
>>>>> 3:51 AM,
>>>>> Coscend@OM
>>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear
>>>>> OpenMeetings
>>>>> Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> It
>>>>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>> great
>>>>> to
>>>>> learn
>>>>> about
>>>>> Ed's
>>>>> ideas
>>>>> on
>>>>> "function
>>>>> hub".
>>>>> In the
>>>>> meantime,
>>>>> as
>>>>> requested
>>>>> by
>>>>> Maxim,
>>>>> here
>>>>> are
>>>>> our
>>>>> thoughts
>>>>> about
>>>>> the Page
>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>
>>>>> The
>>>>> salient
>>>>> part
>>>>> is the
>>>>> navigator
>>>>> appears
>>>>> and
>>>>> disappears
>>>>> in
>>>>> "real-time",
>>>>> thereby
>>>>> making
>>>>> the UI
>>>>> more
>>>>> user
>>>>> friendly.
>>>>> That is,
>>>>> 1.
>>>>> when a
>>>>> file
>>>>> is
>>>>> displayed
>>>>> and
>>>>> disappears
>>>>> when
>>>>> the
>>>>> displayed
>>>>> file is
>>>>> removed.
>>>>> This
>>>>> gives
>>>>> more
>>>>> working
>>>>> space
>>>>> for
>>>>> other
>>>>> relevant
>>>>> items.
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> only
>>>>> on the
>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>> where
>>>>> there
>>>>> is a
>>>>> displayed
>>>>> file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>> we
>>>>> could
>>>>> have a
>>>>> similar
>>>>> "real-time"
>>>>> expandable
>>>>> /
>>>>> collapsible
>>>>> frame
>>>>> of the
>>>>> 1.
>>>>> Users
>>>>> panel:
>>>>> Have a
>>>>> small
>>>>> "Users"
>>>>> icon
>>>>> with a
>>>>> tooltip.
>>>>> When
>>>>> we hover
>>>>> on
>>>>> this
>>>>> icon,
>>>>> it
>>>>> will
>>>>> expand
>>>>> to
>>>>> open
>>>>> the
>>>>> user
>>>>> panel.
>>>>> When
>>>>> we
>>>>> move
>>>>> out of the
>>>>> panel,
>>>>> it
>>>>> will
>>>>> collapse.
>>>>> Ditto
>>>>> for
>>>>> Files
>>>>> panel
>>>>> and
>>>>> toolbar
>>>>> below.
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> Files
>>>>> panel
>>>>>
>>>>> This
>>>>> could
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> be
>>>>> done
>>>>> by
>>>>> combining
>>>>> 1.
>>>>> https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> Hover:
>>>>> frames
>>>>> and
>>>>> divs
>>>>> remain
>>>>> inside
>>>>> of
>>>>> their
>>>>> own
>>>>> relative
>>>>> area.
>>>>> Animate
>>>>> from
>>>>> (0,0)
>>>>> position
>>>>> both
>>>>> minus
>>>>> values
>>>>> so
>>>>> that
>>>>> they
>>>>> expand
>>>>> towards
>>>>> bottom
>>>>> right.
>>>>> z-index
>>>>> of
>>>>> expanding
>>>>> block
>>>>> will
>>>>> be
>>>>> higher
>>>>> than
>>>>> surrounding
>>>>> so
>>>>> that
>>>>> it
>>>>> appears
>>>>> on top.
>>>>> $(".img
>>>>> a
>>>>> img").hover(function()
>>>>> {
>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>>> 1);
>>>>>
>>>>> //
>>>>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>> where
>>>>> the
>>>>> popping
>>>>> out
>>>>> effect
>>>>> happens
>>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>>> height:
>>>>> "800",
>>>>> width:
>>>>> "200",
>>>>> left:
>>>>> "-=30",
>>>>> top:
>>>>> "-=30"
>>>>> },
>>>>> "fast");
>>>>>
>>>>> },
>>>>> function()
>>>>> {
>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>>> 0);
>>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>>> height:
>>>>> "20",
>>>>> width:
>>>>> "20",
>>>>> left:
>>>>> "+=30",
>>>>> top:
>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>> },
>>>>> "fast");
>>>>> });
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hemant
>>>>> K. Sabat
>>>>>
>>>>> Coscend
>>>>> Communications
>>>>> Solutions
>>>>> www.Coscend.com
>>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
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>>>>> Messages
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original
>>>>> Message-----
>>>>> From:
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>> Solodovnik
>>>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>>>>> Sent:
>>>>> Saturday,
>>>>> August
>>>>> 5,
>>>>> 2017
>>>>> 9:19 AM
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Openmeetings
>>>>> user-list
>>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Re:
>>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>>> HTML5
>>>>> whiteboard
>>>>> for 4.0.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> what
>>>>> do you
>>>>> mean
>>>>> by "It
>>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>> expanded
>>>>> to a
>>>>> new
>>>>> fuction
>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>
>>>>> On
>>>>> Sat,
>>>>> Aug 5,
>>>>> 2017
>>>>> at
>>>>> 5:24
>>>>> PM,
>>>>> BBS
>>>>> Technik
>>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> new
>>>>> navigation
>>>>> bar
>>>>> looks
>>>>> realy
>>>>> good.
>>>>> It
>>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>> expanded
>>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>> new
>>>>> fuction
>>>>> hub
>>>>> (colour
>>>>> picker,
>>>>> tool
>>>>> selection,
>>>>> ...).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> |Too
>>>>> silent
>>>>> thread
>>>>> :)))
>>>>> |Just
>>>>> have
>>>>> updated
>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>>>>> with
>>>>> page
>>>>> |navigator
>>>>> Would
>>>>> love
>>>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>> some
>>>>> input
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On
>>>>> Thu,
>>>>> Jul
>>>>> 13,
>>>>> 2017
>>>>> at
>>>>> 10:50
>>>>> PM,
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> Dähn
>>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> like
>>>>> chat/activities
>>>>> nowadays...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just
>>>>> like
>>>>> I
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> show
>>>>> in
>>>>> my
>>>>> "mockup"
>>>>> (see
>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim
>>>>> aka
>>>>> solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> This
>>>>> email
>>>>> has
>>>>> been
>>>>> checked
>>>>> for
>>>>> viruses
>>>>> by AVG.
>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com
>>>>> <http://www.avg.com>]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka
>>>>> solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Be careful with your wishes ... they might come true (c)Wishmaster
:)))
Thanks a lot for the detailed review Peter!
Would it be OK if I'll copy/paste your comments to JIRA issue and we can
discuss it in JIRA? Will you have free time?
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> finally my feedback to new chat.
>
> First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that are
> not optimal (our point of view).
>
> 1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
>
> a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key (new
> line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to change from
> keyboard to mouse
> b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at all,
> once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font for
> this should be used
> c) smaller font for names
> d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make sense at
> least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
> e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like font
> size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
> chatlog" buttons
>
> 2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
> entered (vertically works)
>
> 3. it is possible to send empty messages
>
> 4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
> shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
>
> 5. I miss a save chatlog button
>
> 6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is added,
> with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to add a
> link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links should be
> open in an new tab/window.
>
> 7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
>
> 8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty css
> file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be collect
> all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would be saved
> and restored while backup/restore
>
>
> One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload of
> .odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document on
> the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom full
> page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
>
>
> If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of chat
> depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy way" to
> customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe therefore a
> few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element easily. But this
> we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
>
> I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
> discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
>
> Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
> Peter
>
>
>
> Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Thanks Peter,
>
> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
> file bundled :(
> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
> release bundle.
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>
>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>
>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>> together with some colleagues.
>>
>> Will be back with details asap...
>>
>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
>> week :))
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>
>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>> there is no problem with that.
>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>> its ok now.
>>> thank you
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>
>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>
>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an
>>>>>>>>> area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can
>>>>>>>>> be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>>> the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y
>>>>>>>>>> in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should
>>>>>>>>>> be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size
>>>>>>>>>> of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
>>>>>>>>>> be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom
>>>>>>>>>> on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of
>>>>>>>>>> a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
finally my feedback to new chat.
First of all, in general we are happy, but we have a few things that are
not optimal (our point of view).
1. new Chat waste a lot of of the given place
a) send button not needed, please bind send-action to return-key
(new line ctrl+return) -> more space for inputfield and no need to
change from keyboard to mouse
b) date and time takes to much place -> date is not needed at all,
once per date change or just as hover might be enough and smaller font
for this should be used
c) smaller font for names
d) icons for user (profile etc.) take place and doesn't make sense
at least if OM is used integrated somehow -> could be hidden via css (see 8)
e) formatting buttons (bold,italic,...) should be collected like
font size buttons -> this would give space for "mute sound" and "delete
chatlog" buttons
2. text input doesn’t start to scroll horizontally, if more text is
entered (vertically works)
3. it is possible to send empty messages
4. in opposite to text styles like bold etc. I think chosen font size
shouldn't change for the session or till changed manually again
5. I miss a save chatlog button
6. Add hyperlink doesn't work reliable, with add button nothing is
added, with return key a 500 internal error is shown. I also was able to
add a link, but not sure under which circumstances. Anyway, those links
should be open in an new tab/window.
7. mute sound doesn't change symbol if clicked.
8. to apply css changes easily please provide by default an empty css
file (e.g. custom.css) that will be loaded at last, there could be
collect all custom css changes, it would also be great if this one would
be saved and restored while backup/restore
One more thing, but this is in relation with the witheboard. Upload of
.odf ends up with an error. MS and pdf seems to work, but the document
on the whiteboard has a huge empty part on the right side. And then zoom
full page etc. doesn't show the expected result.
If I'm wrong in some points please let me know. I think the usage of
chat depends on the scenario one is working with... I think "an easy
way" to customize a room with own css could help people a lot. Maybe
therefore a few classes/ids are missing, to address an given element
easily. But this we will see, if styling is used more frequent, I think.
I think we will need one or two more rounds and maybe a bit more
discussion about this to get it to the final sate...
Thanks for all your work so far, greetings
Peter
Am 14.11.2017 um 14:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Thanks Peter,
>
> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
> main.swf file bundled :(
> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
> release bundle.
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>
> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>
> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
> together with some colleagues.
>
> Will be back with details asap...
>
> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :)))
>> (hopefully this week :))
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>
>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it
>> again, there is no problem with that.
>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>> its ok now.
>> thank you
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>
>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is
>> hover the area.
>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock
>> to the right (to the left in case of RTL)
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
>> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> hello maxim
>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be
>> better.
>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the
>> mouse is hover, the chat box opens but after a second
>> it goes hidden again.
>>
>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i
>> go idle for 2 minutes or longer, i wont get
>> disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1
>> min the connection drops and i should login and as a
>> result i will have multiple users in the room with
>> the same name.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> The chat is refactored, could you please check
>> the results on demo server:
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next>
>> I will polish everything a little but major work
>> is done
>>
>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>
>> Here is the first issue:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn
>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just wanted to be written down and
>> probably get some feedback... And maybe
>> you have to much free time... ;-)
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim
>> Solodovnik:
>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then
>>> the moderator has the ability to change
>>> the layout to his needs"
>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user
>>> will be applied to others ....
>>>
>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter
>>> Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I
>>> was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>> didn't had a version with
>>> "video-dock" right now... this one
>>> should be added to the list of
>>> resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie
>>> Daniel Ascher:
>>>> I think these are all good ideas
>>>> Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>> with is "/put the videos in the
>>>> user-list for user with activated
>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." /We
>>>> have implemented an area where the
>>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting
>>>> starts, although they can be
>>>> repositioned at any time by the
>>>> participants. See attached
>>>> screenshot. the docking area is
>>>> above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>> /
>>>> /
>>>> /Inline image 1
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM,
>>>> Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think a default layout after
>>>> creating a room should be
>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has
>>>> the ability to change the
>>>> layout to his needs (for the
>>>> specific scenario) and then
>>>> could use a
>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>> "use this layout also for the
>>>> audience".
>>>> I think it would be possible to
>>>> save this layout by saving wb
>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in
>>>> %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y
>>>> in % to use this layout again.
>>>> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to
>>>> default"-button would also be
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> I think so we doesn't need to
>>>> think about additional room
>>>> types...
>>>>
>>>> Right now, I think about user
>>>> video-pods... I think there
>>>> should be also a container to
>>>> collect them. And here it
>>>> should depend on the size of
>>>> the container, how they will be
>>>> displayed... another
>>>> possibility would be to put the
>>>> videos in the user-list for
>>>> user with activated video...
>>>> zoom on mouse over...
>>>> highlighted if audio is used...
>>>> something like that.. I'm open
>>>> for ideas... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>> It would be great to implement
>>>> an option, to put the video-pod
>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed
>>>> position on the whiteboard in a
>>>> presentation room. This is the
>>>> place where the video-pod of
>>>> the moderator should be
>>>> displayed. The moderator just
>>>> leave this part in his
>>>> presentation blank and is
>>>> visible for the audience. I
>>>> think for a normal presentation
>>>> this should be the default case
>>>> for the audience. Max
>>>> whiteboard and chat and the
>>>> rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb
>>>> Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean this
>>>> functionality "all
>>>> container (wb,
>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>> should be re-sizable up to
>>>> hidden" should be available
>>>> in Admin?
>>>> So room will be
>>>> 'customized' for all users?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at
>>>> 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> I think all container
>>>> (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>> should be resizeable up to
>>>> hidden. It would be
>>>> great for a moderator
>>>> to fix a given view of
>>>> a room.
>>>> This would give the
>>>> possibility for all
>>>> moderators to adapt a room
>>>> (presentation an
>>>> moderation) to a given
>>>> scenario.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36
>>>> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> OK, the VOTE has been
>>>> started :)
>>>> So lets continue this
>>>> discussion :)))
>>>>
>>>> I looked through all
>>>> comments and will try
>>>> to sum up all ideas
>>>> before I'll
>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>
>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>> It should be possible
>>>> to have User list, WB,
>>>> Chat and A&A simultaneously
>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>> enter/leave room in a&a
>>>> should disappear after
>>>> a given time (10s?)
>>>> user-list sorting by
>>>> name and by latest actions
>>>> bigger avatars on mouse
>>>> over
>>>> toolbar can be hidden
>>>> into "zoom bar"
>>>>
>>>> I believe all main
>>>> ideas are listed above
>>>>
>>>> What I propose is
>>>>
>>>> create JIRA issues for
>>>> all this items for 4.0.1
>>>> start prototyping and
>>>> periodically discuss
>>>> results using 'on-next'
>>>> demo
>>>> server
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to start as
>>>> soon as VOTE for 4.0.0
>>>> will be over
>>>> Please let me know if I
>>>> missed something :))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at
>>>> 10:58 AM, Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik
>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>
>>>> That might save
>>>> some space.
>>>> I'm going to finish
>>>> implementing
>>>> missing features in
>>>> 4.0.0 and get
>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017
>>>> at 9:03 PM, BBS
>>>> Technik
>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I did a small
>>>> sketch (s.
>>>> attached file)
>>>> to describe the
>>>> idea of the
>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>> The concept
>>>> should be: 'one
>>>> point of
>>>> interaction'.
>>>> The tools
>>>> appears with
>>>> the mouse over
>>>> event.
>>>> The bar could
>>>> be expanded
>>>> with Hermat's idea.
>>>> But I think it
>>>> should also be
>>>> an option to
>>>> have the
>>>> user-panel
>>>> always on
>>>> top (like now),
>>>> to manage
>>>> discussions
>>>> dynamicly.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet:
>>>> Montag, 07.
>>>> August 2017 um
>>>> 12:38 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik"
>>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>> An:
>>>> "Openmeetings
>>>> user-list"
>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>> Betreff: Re:
>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>> HTML5
>>>> whiteboard for
>>>> 4.0.0
>>>> OK, page and
>>>> zoom controls
>>>> seems to be
>>>> implemented
>>>> Demo is updated
>>>> I'll move
>>>> forward,
>>>> Look'n'feel can
>>>> be updated
>>>> later :))
>>>> You can play
>>>> with current
>>>> implementation
>>>> it is CSS based
>>>> so anyone can
>>>> customize it :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 6,
>>>> 2017 at 3:51
>>>> AM, Coscend@OM
>>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear
>>>> OpenMeetings
>>>> Community,
>>>>
>>>> It would be
>>>> great to
>>>> learn about
>>>> Ed's ideas
>>>> on
>>>> "function
>>>> hub". In the
>>>> meantime,
>>>> as
>>>> requested
>>>> by Maxim,
>>>> here are
>>>> our
>>>> thoughts
>>>> about the Page
>>>> Navigator.
>>>>
>>>> The salient
>>>> part is the
>>>> navigator
>>>> appears and
>>>> disappears in
>>>> "real-time",
>>>> thereby
>>>> making the
>>>> UI more
>>>> user
>>>> friendly.
>>>> That is,
>>>> 1. when a
>>>> file is
>>>> displayed
>>>> and
>>>> disappears
>>>> when the
>>>> displayed
>>>> file is
>>>> removed.
>>>> This gives
>>>> more
>>>> working
>>>> space for
>>>> other
>>>> relevant items.
>>>> 2. only on
>>>> the
>>>> whiteboard
>>>> where there
>>>> is a
>>>> displayed file.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we
>>>> could have
>>>> a similar
>>>> "real-time"
>>>> expandable
>>>> / collapsible
>>>> frame of the
>>>> 1. Users
>>>> panel: Have
>>>> a small
>>>> "Users"
>>>> icon with a
>>>> tooltip.
>>>> When we hover
>>>> on this
>>>> icon, it
>>>> will expand
>>>> to open the
>>>> user panel.
>>>> When we
>>>> move out of the
>>>> panel, it
>>>> will
>>>> collapse.
>>>> Ditto for
>>>> Files panel
>>>> and toolbar
>>>> below.
>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>
>>>> This could
>>>> possibly be
>>>> done by
>>>> combining
>>>> 1.
>>>> https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>>>> 2. Hover:
>>>> frames and
>>>> divs remain
>>>> inside of
>>>> their own
>>>> relative area.
>>>> Animate
>>>> from (0,0)
>>>> position
>>>> both minus
>>>> values so
>>>> that they
>>>> expand towards
>>>> bottom
>>>> right.
>>>> z-index of
>>>> expanding
>>>> block will
>>>> be higher
>>>> than
>>>> surrounding so
>>>> that it
>>>> appears on top.
>>>> $(".img a
>>>> img").hover(function()
>>>> {
>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>> 1);
>>>>
>>>> // this is
>>>> where the
>>>> popping out
>>>> effect happens
>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>> height:
>>>> "800",
>>>> width:
>>>> "200",
>>>> left:
>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>> "-=30" },
>>>> "fast");
>>>>
>>>> }, function() {
>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>>> 0);
>>>> $(this).animate({
>>>> height:
>>>> "20",
>>>> width:
>>>> "20", left:
>>>> "+=30",
>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>> }, "fast");
>>>> });
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>
>>>> Coscend
>>>> Communications
>>>> Solutions
>>>> www.Coscend.com
>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> Video
>>>> Collaboration,
>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>> Tele-education,
>>>> Telepresence
>>>> Services,
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original
>>>> Message-----
>>>> From: Maxim
>>>> Solodovnik
>>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>>>> Sent:
>>>> Saturday,
>>>> August 5,
>>>> 2017 9:19 AM
>>>> To:
>>>> Openmeetings
>>>> user-list
>>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>> <ma...@coscend.com>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re:
>>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>>> HTML5
>>>> whiteboard
>>>> for 4.0.0
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>
>>>> what do you
>>>> mean by "It
>>>> should be
>>>> expanded to
>>>> a new
>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug
>>>> 5, 2017 at
>>>> 5:24 PM,
>>>> BBS Technik
>>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> the new
>>>> navigation
>>>> bar
>>>> looks
>>>> realy good.
>>>> It
>>>> should
>>>> be
>>>> expanded
>>>> to a
>>>> new
>>>> fuction
>>>> hub
>>>> (colour
>>>> picker,
>>>> tool
>>>> selection,
>>>> ...).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> |Too
>>>> silent
>>>> thread :)))
>>>> |Just
>>>> have
>>>> updated
>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>>>> with page
>>>> |navigator
>>>> Would
>>>> love to
>>>> get
>>>> some
>>>> input :)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu,
>>>> Jul 13,
>>>> 2017 at
>>>> 10:50
>>>> PM,
>>>> Peter
>>>> Dähn
>>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> like
>>>> chat/activities
>>>> nowadays...
>>>>
>>>> Just
>>>> like
>>>> I
>>>> wanted
>>>> to
>>>> show
>>>> in
>>>> my
>>>> "mockup"
>>>> (see
>>>> attachment)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka
>>>> solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
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>>>> has been
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>>>>
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>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> President
>>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
We are also seeing this issue.
Dan
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is weird :((
> I'll double-check
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello maxim.
>>
>> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
>> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>>
>> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when
>> you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom
>> level it may shows the page 45).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>
>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>> release bundle.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>
>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>
>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>
>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>> this week :))
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>
>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>> thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Additionally I would like to perform following change:
Default Camera/Microphone will be used in case it was not explicitly
disabled by user
In 4.0.0 Camera/Microphone was disabled until user explicitly enables it.
WDYT?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
>
> I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
>
> Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar: https://issues.
> apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
>
> Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is weird :((
>> I'll double-check
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hello maxim.
>>>
>>> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
>>> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>>>
>>> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50.
>>> when you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the
>>> zoom level it may shows the page 45).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>>
>>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>>> release bundle.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>>
>>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>>
>>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>>> this week :))
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>>> thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1755
I have added some guard code for this, can be checked at "demo next"
Additionally this version has "minimazable" sidebar:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1754
Please let me know what do you think about this implementation :))
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is weird :((
> I'll double-check
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello maxim.
>>
>> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
>> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>>
>> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when
>> you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom
>> level it may shows the page 45).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Peter,
>>>
>>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have
>>> main.swf file bundled :(
>>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>>> release bundle.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>>
>>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>>
>>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>>
>>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
>>>> this week :))
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>>
>>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>>> its ok now.
>>>>> thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user
>>>>>>>>>>> with activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have
>>>>>>>>>>> implemented an area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>>>>>>>>>>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the participants. See
>>>>>>>>>>> attached screenshot. the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
>>>>>>>>>>>> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
>>>>>>>>>>>> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
>>>>>>>>>>>> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used...
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding E-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nd_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
This is weird :((
I'll double-check
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello maxim.
>
> when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in,
> depending on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
>
> suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when
> you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom
> level it may shows the page 45).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Peter,
>>
>> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
>> file bundled :(
>> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
>> release bundle.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>>
>>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>>
>>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>>> together with some colleagues.
>>>
>>> Will be back with details asap...
>>>
>>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
>>> week :))
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>>
>>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>>> there is no problem with that.
>>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>>> its ok now.
>>>> thank you
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an
>>>>>>>>>> area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can
>>>>>>>>>> be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>>>> the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>>>>>>>>>>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>>>>>>> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>>>>>>>>>>> types...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should
>>>>>>>>>>> be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size
>>>>>>>>>>> of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
>>>>>>>>>>> be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom
>>>>>>>>>>> on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod
>>>>>>>>>>> of a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>>>>>>> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator
>>>>>>>>>>> should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>>>>>>> blank and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation
>>>>>>>>>>> this should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>>>>>>>>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding E-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nd_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daehn@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>.
hello maxim.
when you upload a file on the whiteboard and then you do zoom in, depending
on the zoom level the pages of the document goes backward.
suppose that you have document with 70 pages and you are at page 50. when
you do zoom in, actually you will no see the page 50 (depend on the zoom
level it may shows the page 45).
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks Peter,
>
> please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
> file bundled :(
> If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
> release bundle.
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>>
>> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>>
>> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
>> together with some colleagues.
>>
>> Will be back with details asap...
>>
>> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
>> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
>> week :))
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>>
>>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>>> there is no problem with that.
>>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>>> its ok now.
>>> thank you
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>>
>>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right
>>>> (to the left in case of RTL)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hello maxim
>>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover,
>>>>> the chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>>
>>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback...
>>>>>>>> And maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others
>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an
>>>>>>>>> area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can
>>>>>>>>> be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>>> the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y
>>>>>>>>>> in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should
>>>>>>>>>> be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size
>>>>>>>>>> of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
>>>>>>>>>> be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom
>>>>>>>>>> on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of
>>>>>>>>>> a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view
>>>>>>>>>>>> of a room.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user-panel always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>>>>>>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>>>>>>>> Office:
>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> 215
>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> .886.9188
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Peter,
please NOTE for some reason 4.0.1-SNAPSHOT builds might not have main.swf
file bundled :(
If you will download such build please copy main.swf file from 4.0.0
release bundle.
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> sorry, I was in another project these days...
>
> right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
>
> seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it together
> with some colleagues.
>
> Will be back with details asap...
>
> Thanks so far... greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
> week :))
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> im using windows 10 / chrome
>>
>> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again,
>> there is no problem with that.
>> maybe that was mine browser issue.
>> its ok now.
>> thank you
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>>
>>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to
>>> the left in case of RTL)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello maxim
>>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
>>>> chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>>
>>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>>
>>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
>>>>>>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>>>>>>>> disagree with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with
>>>>>>>> activated video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an
>>>>>>>> area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can
>>>>>>>> be repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
>>>>>>>> the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y
>>>>>>>>> in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should
>>>>>>>>> be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size
>>>>>>>>> of the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
>>>>>>>>> be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom
>>>>>>>>> on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of
>>>>>>>>> a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of
>>>>>>>>>>> a room.
>>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a
>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time
>>>>>>>>>>> (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and
>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub". In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dormitilla@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
sorry, I was in another project these days...
right now I had a short look at the demo-server...
seems to be fine so far.. I will put it on my server and check it
together with some colleagues.
Will be back with details asap...
Thanks so far... greetings Peter
Am 13.11.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Peter,
>
> Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
> Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully
> this week :))
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> im using windows 10 / chrome
>
> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it
> again, there is no problem with that.
> maybe that was mine browser issue.
> its ok now.
> thank you
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>
> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover
> the area.
> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the
> right (to the left in case of RTL)
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor
> <hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> hello maxim
> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse
> is hover, the chat box opens but after a second it goes
> hidden again.
>
> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go
> idle for 2 minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but
> in my server when i am idle for 1 min the connection drops
> and i should login and as a result i will have multiple
> users in the room with the same name.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> The chat is refactored, could you please check the
> results on demo server:
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next>
> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>
> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>
> Here is the first issue:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn
> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> just wanted to be written down and probably
> get some feedback... And maybe you have to
> much free time... ;-)
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the
>> moderator has the ability to change the
>> layout to his needs"
>> requires sort of templating ....
>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will
>> be applied to others ....
>>
>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn
>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was
>> just thinking... ;-) and I didn't had a
>> version with "video-dock" right now...
>> this one should be added to the list of
>> resizeable and "savable" container...
>>
>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel
>> Ascher:
>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter.
>>> :) The only thing I disagree with is
>>> "/put the videos in the user-list for
>>> user with activated video... zoom on
>>> mouse over." /We have implemented an
>>> area where the video pods "dock" when
>>> the meeting starts, although they can be
>>> repositioned at any time by the
>>> participants. See attached screenshot.
>>> the docking area is above the
>>> whiteboards. Dan
>>> /
>>> /
>>> /Inline image 1
>>> /
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter
>>> Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think a default layout after
>>> creating a room should be loaded.
>>> Then the moderator has the ability
>>> to change the layout to his needs
>>> (for the specific scenario) and then
>>> could use a button/checkbox/whatever
>>> to "use this layout also for the
>>> audience".
>>> I think it would be possible to save
>>> this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
>>> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and
>>> a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset
>>> to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>
>>> I think so we doesn't need to think
>>> about additional room types...
>>>
>>> Right now, I think about user
>>> video-pods... I think there should
>>> be also a container to collect them.
>>> And here it should depend on the
>>> size of the container, how they will
>>> be displayed... another possibility
>>> would be to put the videos in the
>>> user-list for user with activated
>>> video... zoom on mouse over...
>>> highlighted if audio is used...
>>> something like that.. I'm open for
>>> ideas... ;-)
>>>
>>> and another point for the list...
>>> It would be great to implement an
>>> option, to put the video-pod of a
>>> given moderator to a fixed position
>>> on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>> room. This is the place where the
>>> video-pod of the moderator should be
>>> displayed. The moderator just leave
>>> this part in his presentation blank
>>> and is visible for the audience. I
>>> think for a normal presentation this
>>> should be the default case for the
>>> audience. Max whiteboard and chat
>>> and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim
>>> Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Do you mean this functionality
>>> "all container (wb,
>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>> should be re-sizable up to
>>> hidden" should be available in
>>> Admin?
>>> So room will be 'customized' for
>>> all users?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM,
>>> Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> I think all container (wb,
>>> chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>> resizeable up to
>>> hidden. It would be great
>>> for a moderator to fix a
>>> given view of a room.
>>> This would give the
>>> possibility for all
>>> moderators to adapt a room
>>> (presentation an moderation)
>>> to a given scenario.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36
>>> schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>> So lets continue this
>>> discussion :)))
>>>
>>> I looked through all
>>> comments and will try to sum
>>> up all ideas before I'll
>>> start prototyping :)
>>>
>>> Collapsible user list
>>> It should be possible to
>>> have User list, WB, Chat and
>>> A&A simultaneously
>>> visible without overlapping
>>> enter/leave room in a&a
>>> should disappear after a
>>> given time (10s?)
>>> user-list sorting by name
>>> and by latest actions
>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>> toolbar can be hidden into
>>> "zoom bar"
>>>
>>> I believe all main ideas are
>>> listed above
>>>
>>> What I propose is
>>>
>>> create JIRA issues for all
>>> this items for 4.0.1
>>> start prototyping and
>>> periodically discuss results
>>> using 'on-next' demo
>>> server
>>>
>>> I'll try to start as soon as
>>> VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>> Please let me know if I
>>> missed something :))
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at
>>> 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>
>>> That might save some space.
>>> I'm going to finish
>>> implementing missing
>>> features in 4.0.0 and get
>>> back to this discussion
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at
>>> 9:03 PM, BBS Technik
>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I did a small sketch
>>> (s. attached file)
>>> to describe the idea
>>> of the
>>> 'function hub'.
>>> The concept should
>>> be: 'one point of
>>> interaction'.
>>> The tools appears
>>> with the mouse over
>>> event.
>>> The bar could be
>>> expanded with
>>> Hermat's idea.
>>> But I think it
>>> should also be an
>>> option to have the
>>> user-panel always on
>>> top (like now), to
>>> manage discussions
>>> dynamicly.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> Gesendet: Montag,
>>> 07. August 2017 um
>>> 12:38 Uhr
>>> Von: "Maxim
>>> Solodovnik"
>>> <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>> An: "Openmeetings
>>> user-list"
>>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>> Betreff: Re:
>>> [DISCUSSION] HTML5
>>> whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>> OK, page and zoom
>>> controls seems to be
>>> implemented
>>> Demo is updated
>>> I'll move forward,
>>> Look'n'feel can be
>>> updated later :))
>>> You can play with
>>> current
>>> implementation it is
>>> CSS based so anyone can
>>> customize it :)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017
>>> at 3:51 AM,
>>> Coscend@OM
>>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear
>>> OpenMeetings
>>> Community,
>>>
>>> It would be
>>> great to learn
>>> about Ed's ideas
>>> on "function
>>> hub". In the
>>> meantime, as
>>> requested by
>>> Maxim, here are
>>> our thoughts
>>> about the Page
>>> Navigator.
>>>
>>> The salient part
>>> is the navigator
>>> appears and
>>> disappears in
>>> "real-time",
>>> thereby making
>>> the UI more user
>>> friendly. That is,
>>> 1. when a file
>>> is displayed and
>>> disappears when
>>> the displayed
>>> file is
>>> removed. This
>>> gives more
>>> working space
>>> for other
>>> relevant items.
>>> 2. only on the
>>> whiteboard where
>>> there is a
>>> displayed file.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we could
>>> have a similar
>>> "real-time"
>>> expandable /
>>> collapsible
>>> frame of the
>>> 1. Users panel:
>>> Have a small
>>> "Users" icon
>>> with a tooltip.
>>> When we hover
>>> on this icon, it
>>> will expand to
>>> open the user
>>> panel. When we
>>> move out of the
>>> panel, it will
>>> collapse. Ditto
>>> for Files panel
>>> and toolbar below.
>>> 2. Files panel
>>>
>>> This could
>>> possibly be done
>>> by combining
>>> 1.
>>> https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>>> 2. Hover: frames
>>> and divs remain
>>> inside of their
>>> own relative area.
>>> Animate from
>>> (0,0) position
>>> both minus
>>> values so that
>>> they expand towards
>>> bottom right.
>>> z-index of
>>> expanding block
>>> will be higher
>>> than surrounding so
>>> that it appears
>>> on top.
>>> $(".img a
>>> img").hover(function()
>>> {
>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>> 1);
>>>
>>> // this is where
>>> the popping out
>>> effect happens
>>> $(this).animate({
>>> height: "800",
>>> width: "200",
>>> left: "-=30", top:
>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>
>>> }, function() {
>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index",
>>> 0);
>>> $(this).animate({
>>> height: "20",
>>> width: "20",
>>> left: "+=30",
>>> top: "+=30"
>>> }, "fast");
>>> });
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>
>>> Coscend
>>> Communications
>>> Solutions
>>> www.Coscend.com
>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
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>>> From: Maxim
>>> Solodovnik
>>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
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>>> Sent: Saturday,
>>> August 5, 2017
>>> 9:19 AM
>>> To: Openmeetings
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>>> Subject: Re:
>>> [DISCUSSION]
>>> HTML5 whiteboard
>>> for 4.0.0
>>>
>>> Hello Ed,
>>>
>>> what do you mean
>>> by "It should be
>>> expanded to a
>>> new fuction hub"?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 5,
>>> 2017 at 5:24 PM,
>>> BBS Technik
>>> <dormitilla@gmx.de
>>> <ma...@gmx.de>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> the new
>>> navigation
>>> bar looks
>>> realy good.
>>> It should be
>>> expanded to
>>> a new
>>> fuction hub
>>> (colour
>>> picker, tool
>>> selection, ...).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> |Too silent
>>> thread :)))
>>> |Just have
>>> updated
>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>>> with page
>>> |navigator
>>> Would love
>>> to get some
>>> input :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul
>>> 13, 2017 at
>>> 10:50 PM,
>>> Peter Dähn
>>> <daehn@vcrp.de
>>> <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> like
>>> chat/activities
>>> nowadays...
>>>
>>> Just
>>> like I
>>> wanted
>>> to show
>>> in my
>>> "mockup"
>>> (see
>>> attachment)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Peter,
Could you please check the new chat and provide some feedback?
Meanwhile I will start to work on hide-able sidebar :))) (hopefully this
week :))
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
> im using windows 10 / chrome
>
> and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there
> is no problem with that.
> maybe that was mine browser issue.
> its ok now.
> thank you
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>>
>> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
>> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to
>> the left in case of RTL)
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
>> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hello maxim
>>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
>>> chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>>
>>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>>
>>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
>>>>>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where
>>>>>>> the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y
>>>>>>>> in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
>>>>>>>>>> resizeable up to
>>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of
>>>>>>>>>> a room.
>>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
>>>>>>>>>> 'on-next' demo
>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> top: "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>.
im using windows 10 / chrome
and of course i am testing with RTL mode. and as i checked it again, there
is no problem with that.
maybe that was mine browser issue.
its ok now.
thank you
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 5:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
>
> In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
> Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to
> the left in case of RTL)
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
> hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello maxim
>> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
>> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
>> chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>>
>> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2
>> minutes or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle
>> for 1 min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will
>> have multiple users in the room with the same name.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>>
>>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>>
>>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
>>>>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where
>>>>>> the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>>>>>>>>>>>> we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>>>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>>>>> Office:
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> 215
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> .886.9188
>>>>>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>>>>>> Click here to schedule a phone call with me.
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>>>>>> <http://aplustutoring.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
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>
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>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'll double-check, what browser/OS are you using?
In my tests chat is fully available as soon as mouse is hover the area.
Additionally user click chat title bar and it will dock to the right (to
the left in case of RTL)
On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:26 AM, Hossein Dehghanpoor <
hossein.dehghanpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello maxim
> i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
> i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
> chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
>
> as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes
> or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1
> min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have
> multiple users in the room with the same name.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo
>> server: https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
>> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>>
>> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>>
>>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
>>>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>>>> to change the layout to his needs"
>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>
>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>>>>>>>>>>> we hover
>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail
>>>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>>>> President
>>>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>>>
>>>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>>>> Office:
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> 215
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Hossein Dehghanpoor <ho...@gmail.com>.
hello maxim
i think that if you fix the chat position would be better.
i can not write any texts in the chat box. when the mouse is hover, the
chat box opens but after a second it goes hidden again.
as i noticed when i am using OM on your server, if i go idle for 2 minutes
or longer, i wont get disconnected. but in my server when i am idle for 1
min the connection drops and i should login and as a result i will have
multiple users in the room with the same name.
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server:
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> I will polish everything a little but major work is done
>
> Would appreciate to get your comments :)
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>>
>> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.o
>> rg/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
>>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>>> to change the layout to his needs"
>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>
>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>
>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail
>>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>>> President
>>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>>
>>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>>> Office:
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> 215
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> .886.9188
>>>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>>>> Click here to schedule a phone call with me.
>>>> <https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/aplusadmin15>
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>>>> <http://aplustutoring.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello All,
The chat is refactored, could you please check the results on demo server:
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
I will polish everything a little but major work is done
Would appreciate to get your comments :)
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is possible ... but not right now :)))
>
> Here is the first issue: https://issues.apache.
> org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
>> maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>> to change the layout to his needs"
>> requires sort of templating ....
>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>
>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>
>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
>>>> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
>>>> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>
>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>
>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>> room.
>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>> demo
>>>>>> server
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding
>>>>>>>>> E-mail
>>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>> President
>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>
>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>> Office:
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> 215
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+%0D+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+%0D+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> .886.9188
>>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>>> Click here to schedule a phone call with me.
>>> <https://app.hubspot.com/meetings/aplusadmin15>
>>> Sign Up for A+ News and Test Prep Tips!
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>>> <http://aplustutoring.com>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
This is possible ... but not right now :)))
Here is the first issue:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1748
On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And maybe
> you have to much free time... ;-)
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to
> change the layout to his needs"
> requires sort of templating ....
> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>
> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't
>> had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to
>> the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>
>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>
>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with
>> is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
>> zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the video pods
>> "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any
>> time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is
>> above the whiteboards. Dan
>>
>>
>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
>>> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
>>> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>
>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>
>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also
>>> a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the
>>> container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to
>>> put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>
>>> and another point for the list...
>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up
>>>>> to
>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>> room.
>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>
>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>
>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
>>>>> server
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi,
just wanted to be written down and probably get some feedback... And
maybe you have to much free time... ;-)
Greetings Peter
Am 31.10.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
> to change the layout to his needs"
> requires sort of templating ....
> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>
> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one
> should be added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I
>> disagree with is "/put the videos in the user-list for user with
>> activated video... zoom on mouse over." /We have implemented an
>> area where the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts,
>> although they can be repositioned at any time by the
>> participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is above
>> the whiteboards. Dan
>> /
>> /
>> /Inline image 1
>> /
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be
>> loaded. Then the moderator has the ability to change the
>> layout to his needs (for the specific scenario) and then
>> could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also
>> for the audience".
>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb
>> x/y in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to
>> use this layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to
>> default"-button would also be needed.
>>
>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room
>> types...
>>
>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there
>> should be also a container to collect them. And here it
>> should depend on the size of the container, how they will be
>> displayed... another possibility would be to put the videos
>> in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like
>> that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>>
>> and another point for the list...
>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the
>> video-pod of a given moderator to a fixed position on the
>> whiteboard in a presentation room. This is the place where
>> the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed. The
>> moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal
>> presentation this should be the default case for the
>> audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is minimized
>> or hidden.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in
>> Admin?
>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn
>> <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should
>> be resizeable up to
>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a
>> given view of a room.
>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to
>> adapt a room
>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>
>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up
>> all ideas before I'll
>> start prototyping :)
>>
>> Collapsible user list
>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and
>> A&A simultaneously
>> visible without overlapping
>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a
>> given time (10s?)
>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>
>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>
>> What I propose is
>>
>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results
>> using 'on-next' demo
>> server
>>
>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for being silent,
>>
>> That might save some space.
>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features
>> in 4.0.0 and get
>> back to this discussion
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik
>> <dormitilla@gmx.de <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to
>> describe the idea of the
>> 'function hub'.
>> The concept should be: 'one point of
>> interaction'.
>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>> But I think it should also be an option to
>> have the user-panel always on
>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>
>> An: "Openmeetings user-list"
>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
>> <ma...@Coscend.com>
>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard
>> for 4.0.0
>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be
>> implemented
>> Demo is updated
>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated
>> later :))
>> You can play with current implementation it
>> is CSS based so anyone can
>> customize it :)
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM
>> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>> <ma...@coscend.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>
>> It would be great to learn about Ed's
>> ideas on "function hub". In the
>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are
>> our thoughts about the Page
>> Navigator.
>>
>> The salient part is the navigator appears
>> and disappears in
>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more
>> user friendly. That is,
>> 1. when a file is displayed and
>> disappears when the displayed file is
>> removed. This gives more working space
>> for other relevant items.
>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is
>> a displayed file.
>>
>> Perhaps we could have a similar
>> "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>> frame of the
>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon
>> with a tooltip. When we hover
>> on this icon, it will expand to open the
>> user panel. When we move out of the
>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files
>> panel and toolbar below.
>> 2. Files panel
>>
>> This could possibly be done by combining
>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside
>> of their own relative area.
>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus
>> values so that they expand towards
>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block
>> will be higher than surrounding so
>> that it appears on top.
>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>
>> // this is where the popping out effect
>> happens
>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width:
>> "200", left: "-=30", top:
>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>
>> }, function() {
>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width:
>> "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
>> }, "fast");
>> });
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>
>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>> www.Coscend.com
>> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
>> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Real-time, Interactive Video
>> Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on
>> the fly…
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See
>> 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>> Messages from Coscend Communications
>> Solutions' posted at:
>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>> <http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html%5Bhttp://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html%5D>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maxim Solodovnik
>> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>> To: Openmeetings user-list
>> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>> <ma...@coscend.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5
>> whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>
>> Hello Ed,
>>
>> what do you mean by "It should be
>> expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS
>> Technik <dormitilla@gmx.de
>> <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>> It should be expanded to a new
>> fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>> selection, ...).
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> |Too silent thread :)))
>> |Just have updated
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
>> with page
>> |navigator Would love to get some
>> input :)
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM,
>> Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>>
>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>
>> Just like I wanted to show in my
>> "mockup" (see attachment)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses
>> by AVG.
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>>
>>
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>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> President
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>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Sure,
[VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 4.0.0 Release Candidate 2
at dev@ list :)
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Daniel Ascher <
aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
> Maxim. Can you please provide the correct thread? Sorry.
>
> Dan
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Please do in the correspondent thread :)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Ascher <
>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can +1 current release.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any volunteers to create JIRA issues?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe VOTE for current release? :))
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the
>>>>> ability to change the layout to his needs"
>>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where
>>>>>> the video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
>>>>>>> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>>> the specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>>> "use this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Page
>>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>>>>>>>>>>>> we hover
>>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
Maxim. Can you please provide the correct thread? Sorry.
Dan
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Please do in the correspondent thread :)
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Ascher <
> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>
>> I can +1 current release.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any volunteers to create JIRA issues?
>>>
>>> Or maybe VOTE for current release? :))
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>>>> to change the layout to his needs"
>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>
>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>>>>>>>>>>> we hover
>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>> move out of the
>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>> expand towards
>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Amaze Host <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hello, Please can someone setup the SIP system for me for $20?
i can install openmeetings, but i want users to call from their phone
and join the lectures. I am having hard time setting this sip, voip
system.
Please Help.
Thanks
On 10/31/17, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please do in the correspondent thread :)
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Ascher
> <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
>> wrote:
>
>> I can +1 current release.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any volunteers to create JIRA issues?
>>>
>>> Or maybe VOTE for current release? :))
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>> <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>>>> to change the layout to his needs"
>>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>>
>>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
>>>>> the
>>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to
>>>>>> "use
>>>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
>>>>>> layout
>>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the
>>>>>> size of
>>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
>>>>>> zoom on
>>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that..
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
>>>>>> presentation
>>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation
>>>>>> blank and
>>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the
>>>>>> rest
>>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
>>>>>>> chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we
>>>>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar
>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
>>>>>>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
>>>>>>>>>>> top:
>>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction
>>>>>>>>>>> hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Please do in the correspondent thread :)
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
> wrote:
> I can +1 current release.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Any volunteers to create JIRA issues?
>>
>> Or maybe VOTE for current release? :))
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>>> to change the layout to his needs"
>>> requires sort of templating ....
>>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>>
>>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>>
>>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in
>>>>> %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
>>>>> again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable
>>>>>>> up to
>>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>>> room.
>>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas
>>>>>>> before I'll
>>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>>> demo
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <
>>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
>>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
I can +1 current release.
Dan
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Any volunteers to create JIRA issues?
>
> Or maybe VOTE for current release? :))
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability
>> to change the layout to his needs"
>> requires sort of templating ....
>> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>>
>> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
>>> didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
>>> added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>>
>>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
>>> with is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
>>> video... zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the
>>> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
>>> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the
>>> docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
>>>> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
>>>> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>>
>>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>>
>>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be
>>>> also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
>>>> the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be
>>>> to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> and another point for the list...
>>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>>> room.
>>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
>>>>>> demo
>>>>>> server
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
>>>>>>>>> collapsible
>>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Any volunteers to create JIRA issues?
Or maybe VOTE for current release? :))
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to
> change the layout to his needs"
> requires sort of templating ....
> So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
>
> Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't
>> had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to
>> the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>>
>> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>>
>> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with
>> is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
>> zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the video pods
>> "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any
>> time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is
>> above the whiteboards. Dan
>>
>>
>> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
>>> the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>>> this layout also for the audience".
>>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
>>> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
>>> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>>
>>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>>
>>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also
>>> a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the
>>> container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to
>>> put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>>
>>> and another point for the list...
>>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
>>> given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
>>> room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
>>> displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and
>>> is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should
>>> be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest
>>> is minimized or hidden.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up
>>>>> to
>>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a
>>>>> room.
>>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
>>>>> simultaneously
>>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>>
>>>>> What I propose is
>>>>>
>>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
>>>>> server
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
>>>>>>> always on
>>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the
>>>>>>>> Page
>>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>>>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'm afraid functionality like this "Then the moderator has the ability to
change the layout to his needs"
requires sort of templating ....
So CSS dynamically created by one user will be applied to others ....
Let's move baby steps :) one by one :)
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I didn't
> had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be added to
> the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
>
> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with
> is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
> zoom on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the video pods
> "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any
> time by the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is
> above the whiteboards. Dan
>
>
> *[image: Inline image 1] *
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the
>> moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
>> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
>> this layout also for the audience".
>> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
>> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
>> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>>
>> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>>
>> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also
>> a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the
>> container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to
>> put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
>> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
>> open for ideas... ;-)
>>
>> and another point for the list...
>> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given
>> moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room.
>> This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed.
>> The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible
>> for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the
>> default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is
>> minimized or hidden.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>
>>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
>>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
>>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>
>>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>>
>>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>>>> I'll
>>>> start prototyping :)
>>>>
>>>> Collapsible user list
>>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
>>>> visible without overlapping
>>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>>
>>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>>
>>>> What I propose is
>>>>
>>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
>>>> server
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>>
>>>>> That might save some space.
>>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@Coscend.com> <
>>>>>> OM.Insights@coscend.com>
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
>>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
>>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
>>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
>>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>>> hover
>>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move
>>>>>>> out of the
>>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
>>>>>>> "+=30"
>>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
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>>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
ok... I'm totally fine with it... I was just thinking... ;-) and I
didn't had a version with "video-dock" right now... this one should be
added to the list of resizeable and "savable" container...
Am 30.10.2017 um 17:37 Chrissie Daniel Ascher:
> I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree
> with is "/put the videos in the user-list for user with activated
> video... zoom on mouse over." /We have implemented an area where the
> video pods "dock" when the meeting starts, although they can be
> repositioned at any time by the participants. See attached screenshot.
> the docking area is above the whiteboards. Dan
> /
> /
> /Inline image 1
> /
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded.
> Then the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his
> needs (for the specific scenario) and then could use a
> button/checkbox/whatever to "use this layout also for the audience".
> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y
> in %, chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this
> layout again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button
> would also be needed.
>
> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>
> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should
> be also a container to collect them. And here it should depend on
> the size of the container, how they will be displayed... another
> possibility would be to put the videos in the user-list for user
> with activated video... zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio
> is used... something like that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
>
> and another point for the list...
> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of
> a given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a
> presentation room. This is the place where the video-pod of the
> moderator should be displayed. The moderator just leave this part
> in his presentation blank and is visible for the audience. I think
> for a normal presentation this should be the default case for the
> audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is minimized or hidden.
>
>
>
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb,
> chat,userlist,a&a)
> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be
> resizeable up to
> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given
> view of a room.
> This would give the possibility for all moderators to
> adapt a room
> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>
> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all
> ideas before I'll
> start prototyping :)
>
> Collapsible user list
> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
> simultaneously
> visible without overlapping
> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given
> time (10s?)
> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
> bigger avatars on mouse over
> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>
> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>
> What I propose is
>
> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using
> 'on-next' demo
> server
>
> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry for being silent,
>
> That might save some space.
> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in
> 4.0.0 and get
> back to this discussion
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik
> <dormitilla@gmx.de <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to
> describe the idea of the
> 'function hub'.
> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
> But I think it should also be an option to have
> the user-panel always on
> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>
> Best regards
> Ed
>
>
> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>
> An: "Openmeetings user-list"
> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>,
> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM.Insights@coscend.com
> <ma...@coscend.com>>
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
> Demo is updated
> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated
> later :))
> You can play with current implementation it is CSS
> based so anyone can
> customize it :)
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM
> <OM.Insights@coscend.com
> <ma...@coscend.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>
> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on
> "function hub". In the
> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our
> thoughts about the Page
> Navigator.
>
> The salient part is the navigator appears and
> disappears in
> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user
> friendly. That is,
> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears
> when the displayed file is
> removed. This gives more working space for
> other relevant items.
> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a
> displayed file.
>
> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time"
> expandable / collapsible
> frame of the
> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with
> a tooltip. When we hover
> on this icon, it will expand to open the user
> panel. When we move out of the
> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel
> and toolbar below.
> 2. Files panel
>
> This could possibly be done by combining
> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of
> their own relative area.
> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values
> so that they expand towards
> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will
> be higher than surrounding so
> that it appears on top.
> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>
> // this is where the popping out effect happens
> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200",
> left: "-=30", top:
> "-=30" }, "fast");
>
> }, function() {
> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20",
> left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
> }, "fast");
> });
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Hemant K. Sabat
>
> Coscend Communications Solutions
> www.Coscend.com
> <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Tele-healthcare,
> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality
> Notice Regarding E-mail
> Messages from Coscend Communications
> Solutions' posted at:
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> <http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html%5Bhttp://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html%5D>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maxim Solodovnik
> [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
> To: Openmeetings user-list
> <user@openmeetings.apache.org
> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
> <ma...@coscend.com>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for
> 4.0.0
>
> Hello Ed,
>
> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to
> a new fuction hub"?
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik
> <dormitilla@gmx.de <ma...@gmx.de>>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub
> (colour picker, tool
> selection, ...).
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Ed
>
>
> |Too silent thread :)))
> |Just have updated
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5Bhttps://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/%5D>
> with page
> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter
> Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
> like chat/activities nowadays...
>
> Just like I wanted to show in my
> "mockup" (see attachment)
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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>
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> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
I think these are all good ideas Peter. :) The only thing I disagree with
is "*put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom
on mouse over." *We have implemented an area where the video pods "dock"
when the meeting starts, although they can be repositioned at any time by
the participants. See attached screenshot. the docking area is above the
whiteboards. Dan
*[image: Inline image 1]*
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then the
> moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
> specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
> this layout also for the audience".
> I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
> chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout again.
> 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
>
> I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
>
> Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also a
> container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of the
> container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would be to
> put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video... zoom on
> mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like that.. I'm
> open for ideas... ;-)
>
> and another point for the list...
> It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a given
> moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation room.
> This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be displayed.
> The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank and is visible
> for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this should be the
> default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and the rest is
> minimized or hidden.
>
>
>
>
> Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
>> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
>> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
>>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
>>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>>
>>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
>>> I'll
>>> start prototyping :)
>>>
>>> Collapsible user list
>>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
>>> visible without overlapping
>>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>>
>>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>>
>>> What I propose is
>>>
>>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
>>> server
>>>
>>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>>
>>>> That might save some space.
>>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>>> back to this discussion
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always
>>>>> on
>>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>>> Demo is updated
>>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
>>>>> customize it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
>>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
>>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
>>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>>>>>> frame of the
>>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we
>>>>>> hover
>>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand
>>>>>> towards
>>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than
>>>>>> surrounding so
>>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>>
>>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>>> });
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.
>>>>>> Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteameta
>>>>>>> soft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>>> with page
>>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
I think a default layout after creating a room should be loaded. Then
the moderator has the ability to change the layout to his needs (for the
specific scenario) and then could use a button/checkbox/whatever to "use
this layout also for the audience".
I think it would be possible to save this layout by saving wb x/y in %,
chat x/y in %,userlist x/y in % and a&a x/y in % to use this layout
again. 0% would be hidden. A "reset to default"-button would also be needed.
I think so we doesn't need to think about additional room types...
Right now, I think about user video-pods... I think there should be also
a container to collect them. And here it should depend on the size of
the container, how they will be displayed... another possibility would
be to put the videos in the user-list for user with activated video...
zoom on mouse over... highlighted if audio is used... something like
that.. I'm open for ideas... ;-)
and another point for the list...
It would be great to implement an option, to put the video-pod of a
given moderator to a fixed position on the whiteboard in a presentation
room. This is the place where the video-pod of the moderator should be
displayed. The moderator just leave this part in his presentation blank
and is visible for the audience. I think for a normal presentation this
should be the default case for the audience. Max whiteboard and chat and
the rest is minimized or hidden.
Am 30.10.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
> should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
> So room will be 'customized' for all users?
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
>> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
>> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
>> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
>> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>>
>> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
>> start prototyping :)
>>
>> Collapsible user list
>> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
>> visible without overlapping
>> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
>> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
>> bigger avatars on mouse over
>> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>>
>> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>>
>> What I propose is
>>
>> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
>> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
>> server
>>
>> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
>> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Sorry for being silent,
>>>
>>> That might save some space.
>>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>>> back to this discussion
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>>>> 'function hub'.
>>>> The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>>>> The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>>>> The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>>>> But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
>>>> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>>>> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>> OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>>>> Demo is updated
>>>> I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>>>> You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
>>>> customize it :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
>>>>> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
>>>>> Navigator.
>>>>>
>>>>> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>>>>> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>>>>> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
>>>>> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>>>>> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>>>>> frame of the
>>>>> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
>>>>> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
>>>>> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>>>>> 2. Files panel
>>>>>
>>>>> This could possibly be done by combining
>>>>> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>>>>> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>>>>> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
>>>>> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
>>>>> that it appears on top.
>>>>> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>>>>>
>>>>> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>>>>> "-=30" }, "fast");
>>>>>
>>>>> }, function() {
>>>>> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>>>>> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
>>>>> }, "fast");
>>>>> });
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hemant K. Sabat
>>>>>
>>>>> Coscend Communications Solutions
>>>>> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>>>>> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>>>>> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>>>>> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>>>>> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>>> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>>>>>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>>>>>> selection, ...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |Too silent thread :)))
>>>>>> |Just have updated
>>>>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>>>>>> with page
>>>>>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>>>>> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Do you mean this functionality "all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a)
should be re-sizable up to hidden" should be available in Admin?
So room will be 'customized' for all users?
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
> hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
> This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
> (presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>
> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
> start prototyping :)
>
> Collapsible user list
> It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A simultaneously
> visible without overlapping
> enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
> user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
> bigger avatars on mouse over
> toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>
> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>
> What I propose is
>
> create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
> start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next' demo
> server
>
> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for being silent,
>>
>> That might save some space.
>> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
>> back to this discussion
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
>> > 'function hub'.
>> > The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
>> > The tools appears with the mouse over event.
>> > The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
>> > But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
>> > top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Ed
>> >
>> >
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
>> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
>> > "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
>> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>> > OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
>> > Demo is updated
>> > I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
>> > You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
>> > customize it :)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
>> >>
>> >> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
>> >> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
>> >> Navigator.
>> >>
>> >> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
>> >> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
>> >> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
>> >> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
>> >> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
>> >> frame of the
>> >> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
>> >> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of the
>> >> panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
>> >> 2. Files panel
>> >>
>> >> This could possibly be done by combining
>> >> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
>> >> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
>> >> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
>> >> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
>> >> that it appears on top.
>> >> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
>> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
>> >>
>> >> // this is where the popping out effect happens
>> >> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
>> >> "-=30" }, "fast");
>> >>
>> >> }, function() {
>> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
>> >> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
>> >> }, "fast");
>> >> });
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Hemant K. Sabat
>> >>
>> >> Coscend Communications Solutions
>> >> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
>> >> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
>> >> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
>> >> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
>> >> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> >> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
>> >>
>> >> Hello Ed,
>> >>
>> >> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
>> >>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
>> >>> selection, ...).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Ed
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> |Too silent thread :)))
>> >>> |Just have updated
>> >>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
>> >>> with page
>> >>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> WBR
>> >> Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> >> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
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Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,
I think all container (wb, chat,userlist,a&a) should be resizeable up to
hidden. It would be great for a moderator to fix a given view of a room.
This would give the possibility for all moderators to adapt a room
(presentation an moderation) to a given scenario.
Greetings Peter
Am 28.10.2017 um 17:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> OK, the VOTE has been started :)
> So lets continue this discussion :)))
>
> I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before
> I'll start prototyping :)
>
> 1. Collapsible user list
> 2. It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
> simultaneously visible without overlapping
> 3. enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
> 4. user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
> 5. bigger avatars on mouse over
> 6. toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
>
> I believe all main ideas are listed above
>
> What I propose is
>
> 1. create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
> 2. start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
> demo server
>
> I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
> Please let me know if I missed something :))
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sorry for being silent,
>
> That might save some space.
> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
> back to this discussion
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <dormitilla@gmx.de
> <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of
> the 'function hub'.
> > The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
> > The tools appears with the mouse over event.
> > The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
> > But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel
> always on top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>
> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" <user@openmeetings.apache.org
> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>, "OM.Insights@Coscend.com"
> <OM.Insights@coscend.com <ma...@coscend.com>>
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> > OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
> > Demo is updated
> > I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
> > You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so
> anyone can
> > customize it :)
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM
> <OM.Insights@coscend.com <ma...@coscend.com>> wrote:
> >> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
> >>
> >> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub".
> In the meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts
> about the Page Navigator.
> >>
> >> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
> >> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed
> file is removed. This gives more working space for other relevant
> items.
> >> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable /
> collapsible frame of the
> >> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When
> we hover on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When
> we move out of the panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel
> and toolbar below.
> >> 2. Files panel
> >>
> >> This could possibly be done by combining
> >> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
> <https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/>
> >> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative
> area. Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they
> expand towards bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be
> higher than surrounding so that it appears on top.
> >> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
> >>
> >> // this is where the popping out effect happens
> >> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30",
> top: "-=30" }, "fast");
> >>
> >> }, function() {
> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
> >> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top:
> "+=30" }, "fast");
> >> });
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Hemant K. Sabat
> >>
> >> Coscend Communications Solutions
> >> www.Coscend.com <http://www.Coscend.com>[http://www.Coscend.com
> <http://www.Coscend.com>]
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>]
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
> >> To: Openmeetings user-list <user@openmeetings.apache.org
> <ma...@openmeetings.apache.org>>
> >> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com <ma...@coscend.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> >>
> >> Hello Ed,
> >>
> >> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <dormitilla@gmx.de
> <ma...@gmx.de>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
> >>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker,
> tool selection, ...).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> |Too silent thread :)))
> >>> |Just have updated
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]
> <https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/]>
> with page
> >>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
> <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
> >>>>
> >>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> >> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Maxim aka solomax
Re: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
OK, the VOTE has been started :)
So lets continue this discussion :)))
I looked through all comments and will try to sum up all ideas before I'll
start prototyping :)
1. Collapsible user list
2. It should be possible to have User list, WB, Chat and A&A
simultaneously visible without overlapping
3. enter/leave room in a&a should disappear after a given time (10s?)
4. user-list sorting by name and by latest actions
5. bigger avatars on mouse over
6. toolbar can be hidden into "zoom bar"
I believe all main ideas are listed above
What I propose is
1. create JIRA issues for all this items for 4.0.1
2. start prototyping and periodically discuss results using 'on-next'
demo server
I'll try to start as soon as VOTE for 4.0.0 will be over
Please let me know if I missed something :))
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sorry for being silent,
>
> That might save some space.
> I'm going to finish implementing missing features in 4.0.0 and get
> back to this discussion
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:03 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I did a small sketch (s. attached file) to describe the idea of the
> 'function hub'.
> > The concept should be: 'one point of interaction'.
> > The tools appears with the mouse over event.
> > The bar could be expanded with Hermat's idea.
> > But I think it should also be an option to have the user-panel always on
> top (like now), to manage discussions dynamicly.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Montag, 07. August 2017 um 12:38 Uhr
> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>,
> "OM.Insights@Coscend.com" <OM...@coscend.com>
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> > OK, page and zoom controls seems to be implemented
> > Demo is updated
> > I'll move forward, Look'n'feel can be updated later :))
> > You can play with current implementation it is CSS based so anyone can
> > customize it :)
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 3:51 AM, Coscend@OM <OM...@coscend.com>
> wrote:
> >> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
> >>
> >> It would be great to learn about Ed's ideas on "function hub". In the
> meantime, as requested by Maxim, here are our thoughts about the Page
> Navigator.
> >>
> >> The salient part is the navigator appears and disappears in
> "real-time", thereby making the UI more user friendly. That is,
> >> 1. when a file is displayed and disappears when the displayed file is
> removed. This gives more working space for other relevant items.
> >> 2. only on the whiteboard where there is a displayed file.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could have a similar "real-time" expandable / collapsible
> frame of the
> >> 1. Users panel: Have a small "Users" icon with a tooltip. When we hover
> on this icon, it will expand to open the user panel. When we move out of
> the panel, it will collapse. Ditto for Files panel and toolbar below.
> >> 2. Files panel
> >>
> >> This could possibly be done by combining
> >> 1. https://api.jqueryui.com/scale-effect/
> >> 2. Hover: frames and divs remain inside of their own relative area.
> Animate from (0,0) position both minus values so that they expand towards
> bottom right. z-index of expanding block will be higher than surrounding so
> that it appears on top.
> >> $(".img a img").hover(function() {
> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 1);
> >>
> >> // this is where the popping out effect happens
> >> $(this).animate({ height: "800", width: "200", left: "-=30", top:
> "-=30" }, "fast");
> >>
> >> }, function() {
> >> $(this).closest(".img").css("z-index", 0);
> >> $(this).animate({ height: "20", width: "20", left: "+=30", top: "+=30"
> }, "fast");
> >> });
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Hemant K. Sabat
> >>
> >> Coscend Communications Solutions
> >> www.Coscend.com[http://www.Coscend.com]
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Real-time, Interactive Video Collaboration, Tele-healthcare,
> Tele-education, Telepresence Services, on the fly…
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: See 'Confidentiality Notice Regarding E-mail
> Messages from Coscend Communications Solutions' posted at:
> http://www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html[http://
> www.Coscend.com/Terms_and_Conditions.html]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:19 AM
> >> To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> >> Cc: OM.Insights@coscend.com
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] HTML5 whiteboard for 4.0.0
> >>
> >> Hello Ed,
> >>
> >> what do you mean by "It should be expanded to a new fuction hub"?
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 5:24 PM, BBS Technik <do...@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> the new navigation bar looks realy good.
> >>> It should be expanded to a new fuction hub (colour picker, tool
> selection, ...).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> |Too silent thread :)))
> >>> |Just have updated https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/[https://om.
> alteametasoft.com:8443/next/] with page
> >>> |navigator Would love to get some input :)
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> like chat/activities nowadays...
> >>>>
> >>>> Just like I wanted to show in my "mockup" (see attachment)
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> >> http://www.avg.com[http://www.avg.com]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax