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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> on 2012/12/10 16:36:50 UTC

migration of web site to svnpubsub

All,
rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).

For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html

I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any volunteers?

--kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
Right. I first added and then dropped the KEYS.xxx files from dist svn
as I figured they were old. I kept only the KEYS file as that's the
only one we really need anyway.

Jarek

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The svnpubsub dist area (item #1) for Geronimo is now setup - see [1].
>> I populated it with the same artifacts that we had on
>> /www/www.apache.org/dist/geronimo. Please review in case I missed
>> something. I'll wait a day or so to let INFRA know to officially
>> switch us over to this new way of publishing Geronimo distribution
>> files.
>>
>> [1]: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo/
>
> The only thing I noticed was that we're dropping the KEYS.xxx files (which are the historical versions of the KEYS file). I don't see a reason to carry these forward. So, I'm fine with that. That information should already be encoded in svn, anyway...
>
> --kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The svnpubsub dist area (item #1) for Geronimo is now setup - see [1].
> I populated it with the same artifacts that we had on
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/geronimo. Please review in case I missed
> something. I'll wait a day or so to let INFRA know to officially
> switch us over to this new way of publishing Geronimo distribution
> files.
> 
> [1]: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo/

The only thing I noticed was that we're dropping the KEYS.xxx files (which are the historical versions of the KEYS file). I don't see a reason to carry these forward. So, I'm fine with that. That information should already be encoded in svn, anyway...

--kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
The svnpubsub dist area (item #1) for Geronimo is now setup - see [1].
I populated it with the same artifacts that we had on
/www/www.apache.org/dist/geronimo. Please review in case I missed
something. I'll wait a day or so to let INFRA know to officially
switch us over to this new way of publishing Geronimo distribution
files.

[1]: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo/

Jarek

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Btw, we now have 3 tickets opened with INFRA:
>
> 1) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 for dist svnpubsub
> 2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5731 for website svnpubsub
> 3) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5732 for website buildbot
>
> Jarek
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here's the plan in a bit more detail.
>>
>> For the first issue (#1) I already opened
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 since that should be
>> easy to do. For the website things a bit more complicated. First and
>> once we have the svnpubsub for the website (#3) I will svn move
>> geronimo/site/trunk/docs/* contents into that svn repo - these are the
>> static files I was talking about before. Then we'll setup the buildbot
>> to export the wiki (#3). That job will automatically check in the
>> exported files into the website svnpubsub location.
>>
>> Once we know the buildbot setup is working ok and the contents of the
>> websiste svnpubsub look ok then we will ask INFRA to make it official
>> as the live website. The only thing I'm unsure about right now if
>> there is a way to preview our new website before we make it official -
>> so that we can test the redirects, etc.
>>
>> Jarek
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If there is no objections I'm going to start filing INFRA tickets to
>>>> setup svnpubsub setup for Geronimo. Here's what I think we need:
>>>>
>>>> 1) svnpubsub for Geronimo distributions. Basically, svnpubsub location
>>>> such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo which will
>>>> be populated with the current contents of www.apache.org/dist/geronimo
>>>>
>>>> 2) A buildbot setup that exports our wiki pages to svnpubsub location
>>>> for our website (running periodically - e.g. nightly).
>>>>
>>>> 3) svnpubsub location for our website that contains some static files
>>>> such as javadocs, images, css, etc. Something like:
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo
>>>
>>> Looks pretty reasonable to me. Though can't say that I've looked at any of this in any detail…
>>>
>>> Thanks Jarek!
>>>
>>> --kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
The buildbot setup is up and running and any wiki changes should be
automatically published (you should see a commit message) every hour
now. I also updated the copyright date for main site and 3.0 docs to
2013. If we need to update the copyright date on any other page - let
me know.

Please give the svnpubsub site one more review - I will ask INFRA (if
there are no objections) to switch our live website to svnpubsub over
the weekend. The live web site might be down for a few hours as things
are being migrated. I did make a backup copy of the existing Geronimo
site in case things go horribly wrong. There are also some redirects
that we might have to fix once the site goes live.

Jarek

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:51 PM, chi runhua <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did some sanity check on Geronimo docs and they look great.
>
> Thanks for doing this, Jarek~~!.
>
> BTW, should the copyright year at the bottom of each page be 2013 ?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > As you all probably noticed the svnpubsub area for the website has
>> > been setup. I've populated it with the static and wiki content. You
>> > should be able to kind of preview the site by opening
>> >
>> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo/content/index.html
>> > page in your browser. Some things like redirects might not work of
>> > course and there is a plenty of direct geronimo.apache.org links that
>> > might bring an old page. I'll also work on reducing some
>> > cwiki.apache.org links.
>> >
>> > Please do some sanity review (and update wiki if needed - I'll push
>> > updates manually later). I know that some non-english pages might be
>> > encoded wrong.
>> >
>> > Once we agree that the site is in a decent shape I'll ask infra to
>> > switch us over.
>>
>> Hi Jarek,
>> It's looking pretty good to me. I didn't notice any problems. If anything,
>> I noticed a few places where it looked like you had improved on the old
>> site.
>>
>> I'd give people a day or two to look things over. Once you're comfortable
>> with things, I'd say feel free to pull the switch...
>>
>> Thanks for all of this!
>>
>> --kevan
>>
>

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by chi runhua <ch...@gmail.com>.
I did some sanity check on Geronimo docs and they look great.

Thanks for doing this, Jarek~~!.

BTW, should the copyright year at the bottom of each page be 2013 ?

Cheers.

Jeff

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As you all probably noticed the svnpubsub area for the website has
> > been setup. I've populated it with the static and wiki content. You
> > should be able to kind of preview the site by opening
> >
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo/content/index.html
> > page in your browser. Some things like redirects might not work of
> > course and there is a plenty of direct geronimo.apache.org links that
> > might bring an old page. I'll also work on reducing some
> > cwiki.apache.org links.
> >
> > Please do some sanity review (and update wiki if needed - I'll push
> > updates manually later). I know that some non-english pages might be
> > encoded wrong.
> >
> > Once we agree that the site is in a decent shape I'll ask infra to
> > switch us over.
>
> Hi Jarek,
> It's looking pretty good to me. I didn't notice any problems. If anything,
> I noticed a few places where it looked like you had improved on the old
> site.
>
> I'd give people a day or two to look things over. Once you're comfortable
> with things, I'd say feel free to pull the switch...
>
> Thanks for all of this!
>
> --kevan
>
>

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As you all probably noticed the svnpubsub area for the website has
> been setup. I've populated it with the static and wiki content. You
> should be able to kind of preview the site by opening
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo/content/index.html
> page in your browser. Some things like redirects might not work of
> course and there is a plenty of direct geronimo.apache.org links that
> might bring an old page. I'll also work on reducing some
> cwiki.apache.org links.
> 
> Please do some sanity review (and update wiki if needed - I'll push
> updates manually later). I know that some non-english pages might be
> encoded wrong.
> 
> Once we agree that the site is in a decent shape I'll ask infra to
> switch us over.

Hi Jarek,
It's looking pretty good to me. I didn't notice any problems. If anything, I noticed a few places where it looked like you had improved on the old site.

I'd give people a day or two to look things over. Once you're comfortable with things, I'd say feel free to pull the switch...

Thanks for all of this!

--kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
As you all probably noticed the svnpubsub area for the website has
been setup. I've populated it with the static and wiki content. You
should be able to kind of preview the site by opening
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo/content/index.html
page in your browser. Some things like redirects might not work of
course and there is a plenty of direct geronimo.apache.org links that
might bring an old page. I'll also work on reducing some
cwiki.apache.org links.

Please do some sanity review (and update wiki if needed - I'll push
updates manually later). I know that some non-english pages might be
encoded wrong.

Once we agree that the site is in a decent shape I'll ask infra to
switch us over.

Thanks,
Jarek


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Btw, we now have 3 tickets opened with INFRA:
>
> 1) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 for dist svnpubsub
> 2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5731 for website svnpubsub
> 3) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5732 for website buildbot
>
> Jarek
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here's the plan in a bit more detail.
>>
>> For the first issue (#1) I already opened
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 since that should be
>> easy to do. For the website things a bit more complicated. First and
>> once we have the svnpubsub for the website (#3) I will svn move
>> geronimo/site/trunk/docs/* contents into that svn repo - these are the
>> static files I was talking about before. Then we'll setup the buildbot
>> to export the wiki (#3). That job will automatically check in the
>> exported files into the website svnpubsub location.
>>
>> Once we know the buildbot setup is working ok and the contents of the
>> websiste svnpubsub look ok then we will ask INFRA to make it official
>> as the live website. The only thing I'm unsure about right now if
>> there is a way to preview our new website before we make it official -
>> so that we can test the redirects, etc.
>>
>> Jarek
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If there is no objections I'm going to start filing INFRA tickets to
>>>> setup svnpubsub setup for Geronimo. Here's what I think we need:
>>>>
>>>> 1) svnpubsub for Geronimo distributions. Basically, svnpubsub location
>>>> such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo which will
>>>> be populated with the current contents of www.apache.org/dist/geronimo
>>>>
>>>> 2) A buildbot setup that exports our wiki pages to svnpubsub location
>>>> for our website (running periodically - e.g. nightly).
>>>>
>>>> 3) svnpubsub location for our website that contains some static files
>>>> such as javadocs, images, css, etc. Something like:
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo
>>>
>>> Looks pretty reasonable to me. Though can't say that I've looked at any of this in any detail…
>>>
>>> Thanks Jarek!
>>>
>>> --kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
Btw, we now have 3 tickets opened with INFRA:

1) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 for dist svnpubsub
2) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5731 for website svnpubsub
3) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5732 for website buildbot

Jarek

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's the plan in a bit more detail.
>
> For the first issue (#1) I already opened
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 since that should be
> easy to do. For the website things a bit more complicated. First and
> once we have the svnpubsub for the website (#3) I will svn move
> geronimo/site/trunk/docs/* contents into that svn repo - these are the
> static files I was talking about before. Then we'll setup the buildbot
> to export the wiki (#3). That job will automatically check in the
> exported files into the website svnpubsub location.
>
> Once we know the buildbot setup is working ok and the contents of the
> websiste svnpubsub look ok then we will ask INFRA to make it official
> as the live website. The only thing I'm unsure about right now if
> there is a way to preview our new website before we make it official -
> so that we can test the redirects, etc.
>
> Jarek
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If there is no objections I'm going to start filing INFRA tickets to
>>> setup svnpubsub setup for Geronimo. Here's what I think we need:
>>>
>>> 1) svnpubsub for Geronimo distributions. Basically, svnpubsub location
>>> such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo which will
>>> be populated with the current contents of www.apache.org/dist/geronimo
>>>
>>> 2) A buildbot setup that exports our wiki pages to svnpubsub location
>>> for our website (running periodically - e.g. nightly).
>>>
>>> 3) svnpubsub location for our website that contains some static files
>>> such as javadocs, images, css, etc. Something like:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo
>>
>> Looks pretty reasonable to me. Though can't say that I've looked at any of this in any detail…
>>
>> Thanks Jarek!
>>
>> --kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
Here's the plan in a bit more detail.

For the first issue (#1) I already opened
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5730 since that should be
easy to do. For the website things a bit more complicated. First and
once we have the svnpubsub for the website (#3) I will svn move
geronimo/site/trunk/docs/* contents into that svn repo - these are the
static files I was talking about before. Then we'll setup the buildbot
to export the wiki (#3). That job will automatically check in the
exported files into the website svnpubsub location.

Once we know the buildbot setup is working ok and the contents of the
websiste svnpubsub look ok then we will ask INFRA to make it official
as the live website. The only thing I'm unsure about right now if
there is a way to preview our new website before we make it official -
so that we can test the redirects, etc.

Jarek


On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If there is no objections I'm going to start filing INFRA tickets to
>> setup svnpubsub setup for Geronimo. Here's what I think we need:
>>
>> 1) svnpubsub for Geronimo distributions. Basically, svnpubsub location
>> such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo which will
>> be populated with the current contents of www.apache.org/dist/geronimo
>>
>> 2) A buildbot setup that exports our wiki pages to svnpubsub location
>> for our website (running periodically - e.g. nightly).
>>
>> 3) svnpubsub location for our website that contains some static files
>> such as javadocs, images, css, etc. Something like:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo
>
> Looks pretty reasonable to me. Though can't say that I've looked at any of this in any detail…
>
> Thanks Jarek!
>
> --kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If there is no objections I'm going to start filing INFRA tickets to
> setup svnpubsub setup for Geronimo. Here's what I think we need:
> 
> 1) svnpubsub for Geronimo distributions. Basically, svnpubsub location
> such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo which will
> be populated with the current contents of www.apache.org/dist/geronimo
> 
> 2) A buildbot setup that exports our wiki pages to svnpubsub location
> for our website (running periodically - e.g. nightly).
> 
> 3) svnpubsub location for our website that contains some static files
> such as javadocs, images, css, etc. Something like:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo

Looks pretty reasonable to me. Though can't say that I've looked at any of this in any detail…

Thanks Jarek!

--kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
If there is no objections I'm going to start filing INFRA tickets to
setup svnpubsub setup for Geronimo. Here's what I think we need:

1) svnpubsub for Geronimo distributions. Basically, svnpubsub location
such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/geronimo which will
be populated with the current contents of www.apache.org/dist/geronimo

2) A buildbot setup that exports our wiki pages to svnpubsub location
for our website (running periodically - e.g. nightly).

3) svnpubsub location for our website that contains some static files
such as javadocs, images, css, etc. Something like:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/geronimo

Jarek


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
> rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>
> For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>
> I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any volunteers?
>
> --kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Jan 2, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dan,
> 
> Yes, I was planning to do that once I had a bit more confidence in the
> modified export code. Btw, do you know how to deal with static files
> that are not exported from wiki? We have some additional files such as
> schema files, etc. that we need to publish on the web site.

Just checkout the "target" area and add them.   Things like javadocs, schemas, images, css files, etc…  would all need to be handled that way.

Dan



> 
> Thanks,
> Jarek
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Jarek,
>> 
>> I would highly suggest that we try and keep all the changes to the exporter together someplace (currently in CXF's repo, but we could move it, although since you are a committer there, likely not needed to move).    If/when infrastructure updates the confluence version from 3.4 to 4.x, the exporter WILL need to be updated as the SOAP API's that we use have changed quite a bit in 4.x.    If we keep all the changes together in one place, we'll only need to update it in one place instead of scattered throughout all the projects.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did some experiments with both approaches: 1) convert to Apache CMS,
>>> and 2) use Dan's site-export tool. I got a lot further with Dan's
>>> tool. I modified his code a bit so that it works with our existing
>>> templates (no need to modify our templates). However, there are at
>>> least two things that don't work right (yet): a) exporting news items
>>> / blogs, and b) cross wiki space links. I think I can fix b) but I'm
>>> not sure about a).
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I just checked the wiki exporter code into
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/wiki-export.
>>> There is a README file that explains how to get things going. You will
>>> also need the templates from
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/template
>>> 
>>> Jarek
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think we need a short and long term solution. For the short term solution
>>>> let's try Dan's approach and see if that can work for us. Otherwise, we will
>>>> loose web site updates on the 1st. For the long term solution we can
>>>> consider switching to CMS or at least getting a clarification from the infra
>>>> team if we can continue to use the cwiki for the website. We do have a lot
>>>> of pages so switching to CMS might be challenging but we might have no
>>>> choice (sooner or later).
>>>> 
>>>> Jarek
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suggest using the new CMS. You can still use svnpubsub for static
>>>>> content.
>>>>> There is now even a maven plugin in the making for automated svnpubsub.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've now moved over quite some pages using bootstrap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://openwebbeans.staging.apache.org/
>>>>> http://bval.staging.apache.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/deltaspike/
>>>>> http://tomee.apache.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still trying to figure how doing things like 'News' teasers on the landing
>>>>> page, etc...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:46 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence
>>>>>> pages locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still
>>>>>> work with confluence without learning a new CMS system.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>> rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January
>>>>>>> (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to
>>>>>>> have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any
>>>>>>> volunteers?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --kevan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>> 

-- 
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
Dan,

Yes, I was planning to do that once I had a bit more confidence in the
modified export code. Btw, do you know how to deal with static files
that are not exported from wiki? We have some additional files such as
schema files, etc. that we need to publish on the web site.

Thanks,
Jarek


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Jarek,
>
> I would highly suggest that we try and keep all the changes to the exporter together someplace (currently in CXF's repo, but we could move it, although since you are a committer there, likely not needed to move).    If/when infrastructure updates the confluence version from 3.4 to 4.x, the exporter WILL need to be updated as the SOAP API's that we use have changed quite a bit in 4.x.    If we keep all the changes together in one place, we'll only need to update it in one place instead of scattered throughout all the projects.
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did some experiments with both approaches: 1) convert to Apache CMS,
>> and 2) use Dan's site-export tool. I got a lot further with Dan's
>> tool. I modified his code a bit so that it works with our existing
>> templates (no need to modify our templates). However, there are at
>> least two things that don't work right (yet): a) exporting news items
>> / blogs, and b) cross wiki space links. I think I can fix b) but I'm
>> not sure about a).
>>
>> Anyway, I just checked the wiki exporter code into
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/wiki-export.
>> There is a README file that explains how to get things going. You will
>> also need the templates from
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/template
>>
>> Jarek
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think we need a short and long term solution. For the short term solution
>>> let's try Dan's approach and see if that can work for us. Otherwise, we will
>>> loose web site updates on the 1st. For the long term solution we can
>>> consider switching to CMS or at least getting a clarification from the infra
>>> team if we can continue to use the cwiki for the website. We do have a lot
>>> of pages so switching to CMS might be challenging but we might have no
>>> choice (sooner or later).
>>>
>>> Jarek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I suggest using the new CMS. You can still use svnpubsub for static
>>>> content.
>>>> There is now even a maven plugin in the making for automated svnpubsub.
>>>>
>>>> We've now moved over quite some pages using bootstrap.
>>>>
>>>> http://openwebbeans.staging.apache.org/
>>>> http://bval.staging.apache.org/
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/deltaspike/
>>>> http://tomee.apache.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still trying to figure how doing things like 'News' teasers on the landing
>>>> page, etc...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:46 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence
>>>>> pages locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still
>>>>> work with confluence without learning a new CMS system.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>> rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January
>>>>>> (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to
>>>>>> have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any
>>>>>> volunteers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --kevan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
>

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
Jarek,

I would highly suggest that we try and keep all the changes to the exporter together someplace (currently in CXF's repo, but we could move it, although since you are a committer there, likely not needed to move).    If/when infrastructure updates the confluence version from 3.4 to 4.x, the exporter WILL need to be updated as the SOAP API's that we use have changed quite a bit in 4.x.    If we keep all the changes together in one place, we'll only need to update it in one place instead of scattered throughout all the projects.


Dan




On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did some experiments with both approaches: 1) convert to Apache CMS,
> and 2) use Dan's site-export tool. I got a lot further with Dan's
> tool. I modified his code a bit so that it works with our existing
> templates (no need to modify our templates). However, there are at
> least two things that don't work right (yet): a) exporting news items
> / blogs, and b) cross wiki space links. I think I can fix b) but I'm
> not sure about a).
> 
> Anyway, I just checked the wiki exporter code into
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/wiki-export.
> There is a README file that explains how to get things going. You will
> also need the templates from
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/template
> 
> Jarek
> 
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think we need a short and long term solution. For the short term solution
>> let's try Dan's approach and see if that can work for us. Otherwise, we will
>> loose web site updates on the 1st. For the long term solution we can
>> consider switching to CMS or at least getting a clarification from the infra
>> team if we can continue to use the cwiki for the website. We do have a lot
>> of pages so switching to CMS might be challenging but we might have no
>> choice (sooner or later).
>> 
>> Jarek
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest using the new CMS. You can still use svnpubsub for static
>>> content.
>>> There is now even a maven plugin in the making for automated svnpubsub.
>>> 
>>> We've now moved over quite some pages using bootstrap.
>>> 
>>> http://openwebbeans.staging.apache.org/
>>> http://bval.staging.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/deltaspike/
>>> http://tomee.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Still trying to figure how doing things like 'News' teasers on the landing
>>> page, etc...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:46 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence
>>>> pages locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still
>>>> work with confluence without learning a new CMS system.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>>> rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January
>>>>> (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to
>>>>> have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>>>>> 
>>>>> For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any
>>>>> volunteers?
>>>>> 
>>>>> --kevan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Shawn
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

-- 
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
I did some experiments with both approaches: 1) convert to Apache CMS,
and 2) use Dan's site-export tool. I got a lot further with Dan's
tool. I modified his code a bit so that it works with our existing
templates (no need to modify our templates). However, there are at
least two things that don't work right (yet): a) exporting news items
/ blogs, and b) cross wiki space links. I think I can fix b) but I'm
not sure about a).

Anyway, I just checked the wiki exporter code into
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/wiki-export.
There is a README file that explains how to get things going. You will
also need the templates from
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/trunk/template

Jarek

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we need a short and long term solution. For the short term solution
> let's try Dan's approach and see if that can work for us. Otherwise, we will
> loose web site updates on the 1st. For the long term solution we can
> consider switching to CMS or at least getting a clarification from the infra
> team if we can continue to use the cwiki for the website. We do have a lot
> of pages so switching to CMS might be challenging but we might have no
> choice (sooner or later).
>
> Jarek
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>
>> I suggest using the new CMS. You can still use svnpubsub for static
>> content.
>> There is now even a maven plugin in the making for automated svnpubsub.
>>
>> We've now moved over quite some pages using bootstrap.
>>
>> http://openwebbeans.staging.apache.org/
>> http://bval.staging.apache.org/
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/deltaspike/
>> http://tomee.apache.org/
>>
>>
>> Still trying to figure how doing things like 'News' teasers on the landing
>> page, etc...
>>
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
>> >To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
>> >Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:46 AM
>> >Subject: Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub
>> >
>> >
>> >I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence
>> > pages locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still
>> > work with confluence without learning a new CMS system.
>> >
>> >
>> >[1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >All,
>> >>rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January
>> >> (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to
>> >> have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>> >>
>> >>For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>> >>
>> >>I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any
>> >> volunteers?
>> >>
>> >>--kevan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Shawn
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we need a short and long term solution. For the short term solution let's try Dan's approach and see if that can work for us. Otherwise, we will loose web site updates on the 1st. For the long term solution we can consider switching to CMS or at least getting a clarification from the infra team if we can continue to use the cwiki for the website. We do have a lot of pages so switching to CMS might be challenging but we might have no choice (sooner or later).

That sounds good to me.

--kevan

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Jarek Gawor <jg...@gmail.com>.
I think we need a short and long term solution. For the short term solution
let's try Dan's approach and see if that can work for us. Otherwise, we
will loose web site updates on the 1st. For the long term solution we can
consider switching to CMS or at least getting a clarification from the
infra team if we can continue to use the cwiki for the website. We do have
a lot of pages so switching to CMS might be challenging but we might have
no choice (sooner or later).

Jarek



On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:

> I suggest using the new CMS. You can still use svnpubsub for static
> content.
> There is now even a maven plugin in the making for automated svnpubsub.
>
> We've now moved over quite some pages using bootstrap.
>
> http://openwebbeans.staging.apache.org/
> http://bval.staging.apache.org/
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/deltaspike/
> http://tomee.apache.org/
>
>
> Still trying to figure how doing things like 'News' teasers on the landing
> page, etc...
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
> >To: dev@geronimo.apache.org
> >Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:46 AM
> >Subject: Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub
> >
> >
> >I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence
> pages locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still
> work with confluence without learning a new CMS system.
> >
> >
> >[1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >All,
> >>rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January
> (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to
> have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
> >>
> >>For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
> >>
> >>I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any
> volunteers?
> >>
> >>--kevan
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Shawn
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
I suggest using the new CMS. You can still use svnpubsub for static content. 
There is now even a maven plugin in the making for automated svnpubsub.

We've now moved over quite some pages using bootstrap. 

http://openwebbeans.staging.apache.org/
http://bval.staging.apache.org/

http://incubator.apache.org/deltaspike/
http://tomee.apache.org/


Still trying to figure how doing things like 'News' teasers on the landing page, etc...


LieGrue,
strub

>________________________________
> From: Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>
>To: dev@geronimo.apache.org 
>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 3:46 AM
>Subject: Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub
> 
>
>I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence pages locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still work with confluence without learning a new CMS system.  
>
>
>[1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/
>
>
>
>On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>All,
>>rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>>
>>For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>>
>>I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any volunteers?
>>
>>--kevan
>
>
>
>-- 
>Shawn
>
>
>

Re: migration of web site to svnpubsub

Posted by Shawn Jiang <ge...@gmail.com>.
I would like to use method described here[1] to render the confluence pages
locally and then publish them to svnpubsub .  So that we can still work
with confluence without learning a new CMS system.

[1]http://www.dankulp.com/blog/2012/03/svnpubsub-for-confluence-sites/


On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:

> All,
> rsync-based updates of the geronimo web site will be frozen in January
> (very soon). We must migrate to svnpubsub (and optionally CMS) in order to
> have a website that we can change (seems like something we'd like to have).
>
> For more information, see -- http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html
>
> I'm going to have very limited time to do any work on this. Any volunteers?
>
> --kevan




-- 
Shawn