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[jira] [Comment Edited] (SOLR-7344) Allow Jetty thread pool limits while still avoiding distributed deadlock.

    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-7344?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=14585190#comment-14585190 ] 

Yonik Seeley edited comment on SOLR-7344 at 6/14/15 7:02 PM:
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I don't think we should place much weight on internal enforcement.  Job #1 should be: what will actually *work* best for our existing system right now, by default, and be the least invasive to clients (without counting internal solr code as clients).  I see discussions of mechanisms for tagging requests, but I still don't have an understanding of if the overall problem will be solved or not.

To recap the problem:
 1) We want to cap the number of certain types of requests executing concurrently for both flow control (see SOLR-7571) and to make more efficient use of resources.
 2) Solr makes requests to itself in various scenarios
 - distributed sub-requests (currently only one)
 - distributed updates (forwards to leaders, distributed updates
 - forwards of requests because the forwarder is not part of the target collection
 - Solr Streaming API: potentially unlimited nesting of requests (solr calling itself)

Can someone describe what the current proposal will actually look like (by default, including what queues would have what limits)?

Edit: this issue is getting big enough, I had missed Hrishikesh's message on the proposed queue types.
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I think the tricky part here is to identify the appropriate thread-pool size for each of the partition. Please take a look and let me know any feedback.
{quote}
Indeed... it seems like this is what we need to be solving (what queues, what limits, what behavior over the limit).  Without that I can't even tell if we've solved the distributed-deadlock problem or not.


was (Author: yseeley@gmail.com):
I don't think we should place much weight on internal enforcement.  Job #1 should be: what will actually *work* best for our existing system right now, by default, and be the least invasive to clients (without counting internal solr code as clients).  I see discussions of mechanisms for tagging requests, but I still don't have an understanding of if the overall problem will be solved or not.

To recap the problem:
 1) We want to cap the number of certain types of requests executing concurrently for both flow control (see SOLR-7571) and to make more efficient use of resources.
 2) Solr makes requests to itself in various scenarios
 - distributed sub-requests (currently only one)
 - distributed updates (forwards to leaders, distributed updates
 - forwards of requests because the forwarder is not part of the target collection
 - Solr Streaming API: potentially unlimited nesting of requests (solr calling itself)

Can someone describe what the current proposal will actually look like (by default, including what queues would have what limits)?


> Allow Jetty thread pool limits while still avoiding distributed deadlock.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-7344
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-7344
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: SolrCloud
>            Reporter: Mark Miller
>         Attachments: SOLR-7344.patch
>
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