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[Issue 125985] New: Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

          Issue ID: 125985
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)
           Product: General
           Version: 4.2.0-dev
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: CONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: ui
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: astepukonis@apache.org

In the process of translating the UI and Help files, every once in a while, I
run into strings which seem to need correction in the English source. I am
opening this issue to list those strings and describe what needs fixing in
them.

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #32 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to jolatt from comment #31)
> (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #30)
>  
> > So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of
> > specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say,
> > "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than
> > "Insert Footnote Directly."
> 
> No and no over again.
> 
> "Insert Footnote Directly" describes the beviour correctly.
> And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a
> dropdown list for further settings/options.

I've make my point. We seem to disagree (I say "seem" because from your remark
I'm not sure you're getting my point). It's cool. Let's move on.

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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--- Comment #20 from SVN Robot <sv...@dev.null.org> ---
"hanya" committed SVN revision 1654634 into trunk:
#i125985# wrong description about All button on index dialog, Comment 3

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #17 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to Kay from comment #16)
> re comments 2 & 8.
> 
> The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not
> sure anything should be changed here.
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/
> Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes
> 
> I will continue to work on other issues here.

The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse over
the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in the UI,
not in the Help (i.e. User guide).

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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--- Comment #18 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\smath.po

String: main0503.xhp#par_id3153001.4.help.text

<ahelp hid="HID_SMA_COMMAND_WIN_EDIT">Use the $[officename] Math Commands
window to enter and edit formulas. As you make entries in the Commands window,
you see the results in the document.</ahelp> To maintain an overview when
creating long and complicated formulas, use the Formula Cursor on the Tools
bar. When this function is activated, the cursor location within the Commands
window is also shown in the text window.

I'm having some doubts about the expressions  (1) "Commands window" and (2)
"document" in the sentence "As you make entries in the Commands window, you see
the results in the document".

Regarding (1): it is more of a pane than a window. A window is what one opens
by choosing Window - New Window. (1) is just a part of that window, i.e. a
pane. (Interestingly enough, this very pane is called "the equation editor" on
"http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html").

Regarding (2): it would seem more accurate to refer to it as a document pane
or, as it is done later on in the paragraph, the "text window" (i.e. "text
pane").

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

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--- Comment #21 from SVN Robot <sv...@dev.null.org> ---
"hanya" committed SVN revision 1654635 into trunk:
#i125985# character b lacked from word box, Comment 4

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--- Comment #13 from SVN Robot <sv...@dev.null.org> ---
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653401 into trunk:
#i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #9

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Kay <ks...@apache.org> changed:

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

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--- Comment #7 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po

String: main0213.xhp#bm_id3157896.help.text

<bookmark_value>toolbars; Form Navigation
bar</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>Navigation
bar;forms</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>sorting; data in
forms</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>data; sorting in
forms</bookmark_value><bookmark_value>forms;sorting data</bookmark_value>

Comment: some instances of semicolon are followed by a space, some are not.

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #26 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to Kay from comment #25)
> (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17)
> > (In reply to Kay from comment #16)
> > > re comments 2 & 8.
> > > 
> > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not
> > > sure anything should be changed here.
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/
> > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes
> > > 
> > > I will continue to work on other issues here.
> > 
> > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse
> > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in
> > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide).
> 
> I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide
> and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote
> Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I
> guess.
> 
> These terms are also used in the Insert menu item.

I understand the motive for doing so, but I cannot justify it because the
description remains false: one cannot insert endnotes by clicking the icon that
allows inserting footnotes and only footnotes.

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po

String: main0108.xhp#par_id2783898.help.text

<ahelp hid=".">Enable an Internet connection for %PRODUCTNAME. If you need a
Proxy, check the %PRODUCTNAME Proxy settings in <switchinline
select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME -
Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Internet. Then choose <switchinline
select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME -
Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Online Update - Check for Updates to
check for the availability of a newer version of your office suite.</ahelp>

The path specified after "Then choose [...]" is: Tools - Options - Online
Update...

It should be: Tools - Options - OpenOffice - Online Update...

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--- Comment #9 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po

String: main0650.xhp#par_id9116183.help.text

Before you can use a JDBC driver, you need to add its class path. Choose
<switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME -
Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - %PRODUCTNAME- Java, and click the
Class Path button. After you add the path information, restart %PRODUCTNAME.

Is: %PRODUCTNAME-

Should be: %PRODUCTNAME -

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Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> changed:

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             Latest|---                         |4.2.0-dev
    Confirmation on|                            |
   Target Milestone|---                         |4.2.0

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--- Comment #23 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po

String:  main0503.xhp#par_id3147768.5.help.text

$[officename] Writer lets you create both basic documents, such as memos, <link
href="text/shared/guide/fax.xhp" name="faxes">faxes</link>, letters , resumes
and <link href="text/swriter/01/01150000.xhp" name="merge documents">merge
documents</link>, as well as long and complex or multi-part documents, complete
with bibliographies, reference tables and indexes.

Is: ..., letters ,...

Should be: ..., letters,...

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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Keith N. McKenna <kn...@apache.org> changed:

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--- Comment #28 from Keith N. McKenna <kn...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #26)
> (In reply to Kay from comment #25)
> > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17)
> > > (In reply to Kay from comment #16)
> > > > re comments 2 & 8.
> > > > 
> > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not
> > > > sure anything should be changed here.
> > > > 
> > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/
> > > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes
> > > > 
> > > > I will continue to work on other issues here.
> > > 
> > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse
> > > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in
> > > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide).
> > 
> > I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide
> > and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote
> > Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I
> > guess.
> > 
> > These terms are also used in the Insert menu item.
> 
> I understand the motive for doing so, but I cannot justify it because the
> description remains false: one cannot insert endnotes by clicking the icon
> that allows inserting footnotes and only footnotes.

The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the toolbar
button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should be changed
to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. There is already a
button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word directly is correct
English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog thereby inserting the
footnote or end note directly into the document.

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--- Comment #19 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
To follow up on Comment 18, "commands window" may be defined as "formula input
pane" or "formula entry pane" and "document" or "text window" as "formula view
pane".

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--- Comment #15 from Kay <ks...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #10)
> Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po
> 
> String: main0650.xhp#par_id3153822.11.help.text
> 
> Your modifications at the <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline
> select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
> Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - $[officename] - Java</emph> tab
> page will be used even if the Java Virtual Machine (JVM, a virtual machine
> for the Java platform) already has been started. After modifications to the
> ClassPath you must restart $[officename]. The same is true for modifications
> under <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME
> - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
> Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Internet - Proxy</emph>. Only the
> two boxes "Http Proxy" and "Ftp Proxy" and their ports don't require a
> restart, they will be evaluated when you click <emph>OK</emph>.
> 
> Is: Http Proxy
> 
> Should be: HTTP Proxy
> 
> Is: Ftp Proxy
> 
> Should be: FTP Proxy

I failed to note that revision 1653401 also fixed this one.

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hanya <ha...@gmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from hanya <ha...@gmail.com> ---
Help description for Writer - Insert - Index and Tables - Index and Tables... 
- Entries tab - All button is bad.
In par_id3155137 of /text/swriter/01/04120221.xhp file describes: 
> Applies the current settings without closing the dialog.
But the All button applies the settings of the current level shown in the tab
page to the other levels.

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--- Comment #12 from SVN Robot <sv...@dev.null.org> ---
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653398 into trunk:
#i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #7

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--- Comment #27 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\aoo40-lt\sw\source\ui\utlui.po

String: #: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_HTML_BLOCKQUOTE.string.text

Is: "Quotations"

Should probably be: "Citation"

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--- Comment #33 from SVN Robot <sv...@dev.null.org> ---
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1658822 into trunk:
#i125985# Suggested by Keith McKenna, Comment 28.

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--- Comment #24 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po

String:  main0503.xhp#par_id3147239.10.help.text

$[officename] offers a wide variety of options to design documents. Use the
<link href="text/swriter/01/05140000.xhp" name="Styles">Styles and Formatting
window</link> to create, assign and modify styles for paragraphs, individual
characters, frames and pages. In addition, the <link
href="text/swriter/01/02110000.xhp" name="Navigator">Navigator</link> helps you
to quickly move around inside your documents, lets you look at your document in
an outline view, and keeps track of the objects that you have inserted into
your document.

Is: $[officename]...

Should be: $[officename] Writer...

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jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> changed:

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--- Comment #8 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #2)
> Path: ...aoo40-lt\officecfg\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\UI.po:
> 
> String: #:
> WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..
> uno_InsertFootnote.Label.value.text
> 
> msgid "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly"
> 
> Instead, the text should be "Insert Footnote".

Correct wording should be: "Insert Footnote Directly"

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--- Comment #4 from hanya <ha...@gmail.com> ---
"b" character is lacked from word "box" in paragraph par_id3155898 of
swriter/guide/header_with_chapter.xhp 
> In the <item type="menuitem">Style</item> ox,

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--- Comment #16 from Kay <ks...@apache.org> ---
re comments 2 & 8.

The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not sure
anything should be changed here.

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes

I will continue to work on other issues here.

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--- Comment #5 from hanya <ha...@gmail.com> ---
UI, issue 116863

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--- Comment #29 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
(In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #28)


> The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the
> toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should
> be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does.
> There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word
> directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog
> thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document.

+1

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--- Comment #14 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Text incongruity between UI and Help.

In UI we have:

#:
DrawImpressCommands.xcu#..DrawImpressCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_ShowRuler.Label.value.text
msgid "Ruler"

and

#:
WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_Ruler.Label.value.text
msgid "Ruler"

In both instances, the word "Ruler" is in the singular. It should be in the
plural, though, as it refers collectively to both the vertical and horizontal
rulers.

The plural would be consistent with references to the same item in Help. 

See:

Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\simpress.po

String: main0209.xhp#par_id3153820.3.help.text

To show or hide the rulers, choose <link href="text/simpress/01/03060000.xhp"
name="View - Rulers"><emph>View - Rulers</emph></link>.

Here the same item is correctly referred to in the plural (i.e. "Rulers").

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--- Comment #11 from SVN Robot <sv...@dev.null.org> ---
"kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653397 into trunk:
#i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #1

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--- Comment #31 from jolatt <jo...@gmx.net> ---
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #30)

> So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of
> specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say,
> "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than
> "Insert Footnote Directly."

No and no over again.

"Insert Footnote Directly" describes the beviour correctly.
And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a dropdown
list for further settings/options.

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--- Comment #6 from hanya <ha...@gmail.com> ---
issue 28353

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--- Comment #22 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po

String: main0213.xhp#par_id3154239.3.help.text

By double-clicking on the ruler, you can open the <emph>Paragraph</emph> dialog
and assign <link href="text/shared/00/00000005.xhp#formatierung" name="direct
paragraph formatting">direct paragraph formatting</link> for the current
paragraph or all selected paragraphs.

Is: ...on the ruler...

should be: ...on the horizontal ruler...

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #2 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...aoo40-lt\officecfg\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\UI.po:

String: #:
WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_InsertFootnote.Label.value.text

msgid "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly"

Instead, the text should be "Insert Footnote".

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #30 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to jolatt from comment #29)
(In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #28)
> 
> 
> The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the
> toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should
> be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does.
> There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word
> directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog
> thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document.

It is correct, yet redundant and as such out of place. The description of a
toolbar icon should be treated as a case of contextual classification, not of
the general taxonomy of the software (as, say, in a conceptually laid out
manual).

Let visit the local groceries shop and look at the department names:

Bread | Dairy | Meat | Beverages | Candy

All good.

But what if one finds:

Bread | Dairy | Pork | Beverages | Candy

Wrong classification! A particular type of meat is juxtaposed to more general
types of food.

Same goes for describing as "Insert Footnote Directly" (pork) what should
simply be "Insert Footnote" (meat). Let us mind the context - it is a
description of an icon side-by-side with other icons, in a toolbar side-by-side
with other toolbars:

...New | Open | Page Preview | Bold | Italics | Gallery | Special Character...

It is not the right place to distinguish between different types of inserting
footnotes (they're not even being juxtaposed here as options) because one is
distinguishing here between different types of tools (printing vs opening,
previewing vs navigating and so on).

So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of
specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say,
"Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than
"Insert Footnote Directly."

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #10 from Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@apache.org> ---
Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po

String: main0650.xhp#par_id3153822.11.help.text

Your modifications at the <emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline
select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - $[officename] - Java</emph> tab page
will be used even if the Java Virtual Machine (JVM, a virtual machine for the
Java platform) already has been started. After modifications to the ClassPath
you must restart $[officename]. The same is true for modifications under
<emph><switchinline select="sys"><caseinline select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME -
Preferences</caseinline><defaultinline>Tools -
Options</defaultinline></switchinline> - Internet - Proxy</emph>. Only the two
boxes "Http Proxy" and "Ftp Proxy" and their ports don't require a restart,
they will be evaluated when you click <emph>OK</emph>.

Is: Http Proxy

Should be: HTTP Proxy

Is: Ftp Proxy

Should be: FTP Proxy

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[Issue 125985] Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0)

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125985

--- Comment #25 from Kay <ks...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17)
> (In reply to Kay from comment #16)
> > re comments 2 & 8.
> > 
> > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not
> > sure anything should be changed here.
> > 
> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/
> > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes
> > 
> > I will continue to work on other issues here.
> 
> The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse
> over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in
> the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide).

I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide
and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote
Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I
guess.

These terms are also used in the Insert menu item.

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