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[SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation
Just wondering whether it would be useful to add a link to the board
minutes that establish podlings and create TLPs?
So for example, Libcloud was established in [1]; this could be added
to podlings.xml and added as a link in "Start Date" column in the list
of podlings [2].
Similarly for graduated TLP podlings, the "End Date" could be a link
to the minutes that established the TLP.
These be optional fields (probably tags, as the attribute list is
getting rather long).
The acceptance link could eventually be mandatory if required, but not
all podlings graduate or graduate to a TLP.
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_05_19.txt
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
Useful, but a difficult workflow (assuming the minutes still lag the
meetings by a long way - seems true as the last 3 meetings aren't on
the site yet).
Conjecture, but I would guess that the project finish graduation
before the minutes are published. This means that the Podling members
are no longer interested in the Incubator by the time the link is
available. The Incubator PMC could do it, but I suspect no one is
interested in the ex-podling by that point.
Hen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wondering whether it would be useful to add a link to the board
> minutes that establish podlings and create TLPs?
>
> So for example, Libcloud was established in [1]; this could be added
> to podlings.xml and added as a link in "Start Date" column in the list
> of podlings [2].
>
> Similarly for graduated TLP podlings, the "End Date" could be a link
> to the minutes that established the TLP.
>
> These be optional fields (probably tags, as the attribute list is
> getting rather long).
>
> The acceptance link could eventually be mandatory if required, but not
> all podlings graduate or graduate to a TLP.
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_05_19.txt
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
>
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 23 November 2011 21:36, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> +1 to any of sebb's ideas. Making it easier to find this kind of historical
> stuff would be great.
>
> Also see (manually maintained after board meetings):
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/board-meeting-history.csv
>
> Most of which probably doesn't have to be private, but needs thought to see
> if it really could be fully public.
If it only contains data that is in the published board meetings, I
don't see why it should not be public.
Of course if it is generated from the pre-publication versions, there
might possibly be a reference to some private info.
Also, the comments field is not directly derived from the public minutes.
==
I'd like to also capture PMC chair changes.
I guess this discussion probably now belongs more on site-dev?
> - Shane
>
> On 2011-11-23 3:47 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>
>> sebb wrote on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 20:38:51 +0000:
>>>
>>> I suppose an alternative would be to create an index to the board
>>> meeting minutes just showing the TLP creations ordered by TLP name.
>>> That might be more generally useful.
>>
>> Shane has that in a CSV somewhere I think.
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
+1 to any of sebb's ideas. Making it easier to find this kind of
historical stuff would be great.
Also see (manually maintained after board meetings):
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/board-meeting-history.csv
Most of which probably doesn't have to be private, but needs thought to
see if it really could be fully public.
- Shane
On 2011-11-23 3:47 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> sebb wrote on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 20:38:51 +0000:
>> I suppose an alternative would be to create an index to the board
>> meeting minutes just showing the TLP creations ordered by TLP name.
>> That might be more generally useful.
>
> Shane has that in a CSV somewhere I think.
>
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling
acceptance/graduation
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
sebb wrote on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 20:38:51 +0000:
> I suppose an alternative would be to create an index to the board
> meeting minutes just showing the TLP creations ordered by TLP name.
> That might be more generally useful.
Shane has that in a CSV somewhere I think.
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 23 November 2011 20:29, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> sebb wrote on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 20:19:47 +0000:
>> Just wondering whether it would be useful to add a link to the board
>> minutes that establish podlings
>
> The IPMC creates podlings.
Doh!
[Sorry, brian farted!]
>> and create TLPs?
>
> +1
>
I suppose an alternative would be to create an index to the board
meeting minutes just showing the TLP creations ordered by TLP name.
That might be more generally useful.
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling acceptance/graduation
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> sebb wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering whether it would be useful to add a link to the board
> > minutes that establish podlings
>
> The IPMC creates podlings.
Could link to the mail-archives for the result of the "acceptance" vote.
-David
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Re: [SITE] Link to board meeting minutes for podling
acceptance/graduation
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
sebb wrote on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 20:19:47 +0000:
> Just wondering whether it would be useful to add a link to the board
> minutes that establish podlings
The IPMC creates podlings.
> and create TLPs?
+1
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