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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> on 2003/11/07 20:28:39 UTC
Restoring project web sites
Nicola Ken,
>From Geronimo:
> I remember when the Geronimo project had a web site at Apache.
> What are the chances that we're going to get that thing back
> up and running before ApacheCon?
> If, for example, we stirred up a lot of attention to the project
> at the Con, I can imagine the frustration of the users coming to
> the ASF site and finding a template page explaining nothing of
> the project and linking to none of its resources.
One of the things that happened when we updated the main incubator site is
that it blew away the project site(s). What do we want to tell a project to
do about its site. How should Geronimo link a project site into what is now
their STATUS page?
Obviously, they can just "do it", but is there a normative approach that you
want them to take?
--- Noel
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Re: Restoring project web sites
Posted by "n. alex rupp" <ru...@umn.edu>.
Thank you very much for your help here, Noel. I'm sure we'll get the site up in
short order.
--
N. Alex Rupp (n_alex_rupp@users.sf.net)
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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: Restoring project web sites
> > One of the things that happened when we updated the main incubator
> > site is that it blew away the project site(s).
>
> OK, the README file in the incubator CVS has the instructions:
>
> Do not use the "incubator" CVS module for project docs,
> but the module of the specific project.
>
> Check-in the generated pages in the "incubator-site" CVS module
> under /incubator-site/build/site/projects/${project-name}/.
>
> When the site is updated from CVS (it's once a day) it will be live.
>
> If you have other questions, feel free to post them on
> general@incubator.apache.org
>
> The altrmi project has setup their site. Geronimo has not (re-)setup their
> site, yet.
>
> As can be seen from the altrmi example, the normal entry point for a project
> is http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<project>.html. That page, which is
> the STATUS file from the incubator CVS, can have a link to the project's web
> site, e.g., http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<project>/. The STATUS
> page is located in incubator/site/projects/<project>.cwiki.
>
> The Geronimo project just needs to publish their project site to
> incubator-site/build/site/projects/geronimo/ and update the URL located in
> incubator/site/projects/geronimo.cwiki to point to their site instead of the
> Wiki.
>
> --- Noel
>
>
RE: Restoring project web sites
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> One of the things that happened when we updated the main incubator
> site is that it blew away the project site(s).
OK, the README file in the incubator CVS has the instructions:
Do not use the "incubator" CVS module for project docs,
but the module of the specific project.
Check-in the generated pages in the "incubator-site" CVS module
under /incubator-site/build/site/projects/${project-name}/.
When the site is updated from CVS (it's once a day) it will be live.
If you have other questions, feel free to post them on
general@incubator.apache.org
The altrmi project has setup their site. Geronimo has not (re-)setup their
site, yet.
As can be seen from the altrmi example, the normal entry point for a project
is http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<project>.html. That page, which is
the STATUS file from the incubator CVS, can have a link to the project's web
site, e.g., http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<project>/. The STATUS
page is located in incubator/site/projects/<project>.cwiki.
The Geronimo project just needs to publish their project site to
incubator-site/build/site/projects/geronimo/ and update the URL located in
incubator/site/projects/geronimo.cwiki to point to their site instead of the
Wiki.
--- Noel
RE: Restoring project web sites
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> I have also posted detailed instructions to the geronimo list
> describing how to get the geronimo site built and committed
>
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=geronimo-dev@incubator.a
pache.org&msgNo=4475
> I maintain that its best if the geronimo people manage their
> own site
Agreed. For some reason they must have missed your note in the volume of
e-mail because they've been complaining off-and-on about the lack of a site.
One guy was starting to offering to host the Geronimo site (and advertising
his hosting services at the same time).
Mind you, I've asked the question ever since Nicola Ken did the change, and
I'd missed your instructions until I looked in the CVS today. :-\
In any event, let's hope that they notice the instructions this time.
--- Noel
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Re: Restoring project web sites
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
I have also posted detailed instructions to the geronimo list
describing how to get the geronimo site built and committed in
the appropriate location:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org&msgNo=4475
None of the committers felt like answering at the time :/
I maintain that its best if the geronimo people manage their
own site...someone should nag the appropriate people to do the
appropriate things ;)
- Leo
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>Looks like Leo posted instructions to CVS while I was away. Reading now ...
>
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RE: Restoring project web sites
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Looks like Leo posted instructions to CVS while I was away. Reading now ...
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RE: Restoring project web sites
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> One of the things that happened when we updated the main incubator
> site is that it blew away the project site(s).
OK, the README file in the incubator CVS has the instructions:
Do not use the "incubator" CVS module for project docs,
but the module of the specific project.
Check-in the generated pages in the "incubator-site" CVS module
under /incubator-site/build/site/projects/${project-name}/.
When the site is updated from CVS (it's once a day) it will be live.
If you have other questions, feel free to post them on
general@incubator.apache.org
The altrmi project has setup their site. Geronimo has not (re-)setup their
site, yet.
As can be seen from the altrmi example, the normal entry point for a project
is http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<project>.html. That page, which is
the STATUS file from the incubator CVS, can have a link to the project's web
site, e.g., http://incubator.apache.org/projects/<project>/. The STATUS
page is located in incubator/site/projects/<project>.cwiki.
The Geronimo project just needs to publish their project site to
incubator-site/build/site/projects/geronimo/ and update the URL located in
incubator/site/projects/geronimo.cwiki to point to their site instead of the
Wiki.
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Re: Restoring project web sites
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@apache.org>.
> One of the things that happened when we updated the main incubator
> site is
> that it blew away the project site(s). What do we want to tell a
> project to
> do about its site. How should Geronimo link a project site into what
> is now
> their STATUS page?
>
> Obviously, they can just "do it", but is there a normative approach
> that you
> want them to take?
Figure out how it can be done and just do it. That will be the
normative
approach until we figure out a better one. Anyone working on an
incubated
project who asks for karma on the incubator site will get it as soon as
I get a chance to edit avail. In most cases, they already have karma.
In the mean time, we need to set some ground rules: it is only okay to
update the site if the result does not lose information that was
available prior to the update, unless that information is no longer
applicable.
....Roy
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