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renaming "samples" to "templates"
Hi
I think to have a common terminology we should rename the "samples"
directory
to "templates" directory (in the case of resource-types).
WDYT?
Michi
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> Bob Harner wrote:
>
>> On 3/7/06, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then
>>>>>> please start
>>>>>> a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>> nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone
>>>>> agrees
>>>>> or doesn't mind.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind, as long as the naming is consistent.
>>>
>>> Same here.
>>>
>>> -- Andreas
>>
>>
>> I think "template" is much better for this.
>
>
> *but*: we also have template publications, and that might need
> clarification.
> so if you choose to rename the samples, the docs should make explicit
> at any time whether they are talking about *document templates* or
> *publication templates*.
agreed.
Michi
>
>
>
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Jörn Nettingsmeier <po...@uni-duisburg.de>.
Bob Harner wrote:
> On 3/7/06, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
>>>>> a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>
>>>> nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
>>>> or doesn't mind.
>>> I don't mind, as long as the naming is consistent.
>> Same here.
>>
>> -- Andreas
>
> I think "template" is much better for this.
*but*: we also have template publications, and that might need
clarification.
so if you choose to rename the samples, the docs should make explicit at
any time whether they are talking about *document templates* or
*publication templates*.
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Bob Harner <bo...@gmail.com>.
On 3/7/06, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Michael Wechner wrote:
> >> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
> >>> a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
> >>> opinion.
> >>>
> >>
> >> nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
> >> or doesn't mind.
>
> > I don't mind, as long as the naming is consistent.
>
> Same here.
>
> -- Andreas
I think "template" is much better for this.
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
>
>
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
>>> a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>
>> nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
>> or doesn't mind.
> I don't mind, as long as the naming is consistent.
Same here.
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Doug Chestnut <dh...@virginia.edu>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
>> I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
>> a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
>> opinion.
>>
>
> nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
> or doesn't mind.
I don't mind, as long as the naming is consistent.
--Doug
>
> Again, what is your opinion?
>
> Ok, I will start renaming all "samples" to "templates"
>
>>
>>
>> If you do not wait for this to happen,
>>
>
> I am waiting, but see above
>
>> then please do not be suprised
>> that people change things back to the silent accepted standard we have
>> ATM.
>>
>>
>
> well, I would have to change a lot of things back if I would follow your
> argument.
>
> Michi
>
>
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 16:12 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
>
>
>>Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
>>>a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
>>>opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
>>or doesn't mind.
>>
>>Again, what is your opinion?
>>
>>Ok, I will start renaming all "samples" to "templates"
>>
>>
>
>No. Why?
>
>
see my argument above.
>I do not see the benefit and please give people time to enter the
>discussion, after *one* day you cannot say that nobody has an opinion
>about it.
>
>
what is your opinion?
Michi
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@wyona.com>.
El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 16:12 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
> >I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
> >a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
> >opinion.
> >
>
> nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
> or doesn't mind.
>
> Again, what is your opinion?
>
> Ok, I will start renaming all "samples" to "templates"
No. Why?
I do not see the benefit and please give people time to enter the
discussion, after *one* day you cannot say that nobody has an opinion
about it.
> >
> >
> >If you do not wait for this to happen,
> >
>
> I am waiting, but see above
>
> > then please do not be suprised
> >that people change things back to the silent accepted standard we have
> >ATM.
> >
> >
>
> well, I would have to change a lot of things back if I would follow your
> argument.
¿? which?
salu2
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
>a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
>opinion.
>
nobody seems to have an opinion, so I guess that means everyone agrees
or doesn't mind.
Again, what is your opinion?
Ok, I will start renaming all "samples" to "templates"
>
>
>If you do not wait for this to happen,
>
I am waiting, but see above
> then please do not be suprised
>that people change things back to the silent accepted standard we have
>ATM.
>
>
well, I would have to change a lot of things back if I would follow your
argument.
Michi
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@wyona.com>.
El mar, 07-03-2006 a las 15:39 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
> > Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> >
> >> El sáb, 04-03-2006 a las 22:59 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> I think to have a common terminology we should rename the "samples"
> >>> directory
> >>> to "templates" directory (in the case of resource-types).
> >>>
> >>> WDYT?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hmm, not sure
> >>
> >
> > what is your opinion?
> >
> >> but I saw that you started to do so.
> >>
> >
> > please let's not start a commit war ...
>
>
> also I might add that when you change stuff back, that you should do it
> the full length ;-)
>
> src/modules/opendocument/config/cocoon-xconf/resource-type-opendocument.xconf
>
I know, I am refactoring this ATM so hold your breath ;)
> and honestly I don't think your changings are very constructive, but
> rather saying this
> is how it is (although it nowhere says so) and let's leave it like this
> (without expressing an opinion).
>
Well if *every* other module is having "samples" but only one not, then
this is highly confusing!!! ...and to change it back is highly
constructuve. ;)
I just harmonized it. If you want to rename *all* dirs then please start
a vote/proposal thread and wait till other people express their
opinion.
If you do not wait for this to happen, then please do not be suprised
that people change things back to the silent accepted standard we have
ATM.
salu2
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
>> El sáb, 04-03-2006 a las 22:59 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I think to have a common terminology we should rename the "samples"
>>> directory
>>> to "templates" directory (in the case of resource-types).
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm, not sure
>>
>
> what is your opinion?
>
>> but I saw that you started to do so.
>>
>
> please let's not start a commit war ...
also I might add that when you change stuff back, that you should do it
the full length ;-)
src/modules/opendocument/config/cocoon-xconf/resource-type-opendocument.xconf
and honestly I don't think your changings are very constructive, but
rather saying this
is how it is (although it nowhere says so) and let's leave it like this
(without expressing an opinion).
Michi
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>El sáb, 04-03-2006 a las 22:59 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
>
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I think to have a common terminology we should rename the "samples"
>>directory
>>to "templates" directory (in the case of resource-types).
>>
>>WDYT?
>>
>>
>
>Hmm, not sure
>
what is your opinion?
> but I saw that you started to do so.
>
please let's not start a commit war ...
> I think we should
>find a verdict first and then do it everywhere the same. We should not
>cause more confusion that we already may have.
>
>
I don't think there is confusion.
>The most used now is samples.
>
>
I might note that I introduced the term "samples" in the first place,
but am recognizing
that most people within the CM world is using the word "templates" and I
think it makes
sense, because these files are being used as templates ...
So I think I am rather helping people to be less confused.
Michi
>salu2
>
>
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Re: renaming "samples" to "templates"
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@wyona.com>.
El sáb, 04-03-2006 a las 22:59 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
> Hi
>
> I think to have a common terminology we should rename the "samples"
> directory
> to "templates" directory (in the case of resource-types).
>
> WDYT?
Hmm, not sure but I saw that you started to do so. I think we should
find a verdict first and then do it everywhere the same. We should not
cause more confusion that we already may have.
The most used now is samples.
salu2
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