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Posted to dev@tuscany.apache.org by César Couto <ce...@dcc.ufmg.br> on 2011/01/24 19:13:52 UTC
Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Dear developers,
I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
FindBugs bug finding tool.
Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
part of the system development process.
Thanks in advance,
Cesar Couto
--
http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Out of curiosity - Don't we have a hosted version of Sonar at the ASF?
>> That would make things easier...
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>
> AFAIK, it's still in progress, Gav had created the VM couple weeks ago
> and others were working on getting Sonar setup. Once we have that
> available, I'm definitely moving to use that :)
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
I still couldn't get to the link but Mike showed me some output he had
cached. Looks interesting. Is there any of this stuff we do directly
in Eclipse through configuration or plugins?
Simon
--
Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity - Don't we have a hosted version of Sonar at the ASF?
> That would make things easier...
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
AFAIK, it's still in progress, Gav had created the VM couple weeks ago
and others were working on getting Sonar setup. Once we have that
available, I'm definitely moving to use that :)
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
Out of curiosity - Don't we have a hosted version of Sonar at the ASF?
That would make things easier...
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Edwards
> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Agree, I have been playing with Sonar, which provides various metrics
>>> and below you can find Tuscany 2.x (modules only) analysis.
>>>
>>> http://www.figueiredos.com:8080/sonar/project/index/195
>>>
>>>
>
> It's back up again... server is not totally reliable... :)
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike Edwards
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Agree, I have been playing with Sonar, which provides various metrics
>> and below you can find Tuscany 2.x (modules only) analysis.
>>
>> http://www.figueiredos.com:8080/sonar/project/index/195
>>
>>
It's back up again... server is not totally reliable... :)
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 25/01/2011 17:38, Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:33 AM, dsh<da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I would say TDD and static code analysis are complementary.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>
> Agree, I have been playing with Sonar, which provides various metrics
> and below you can find Tuscany 2.x (modules only) analysis.
>
> http://www.figueiredos.com:8080/sonar/project/index/195
>
>
Luciano,
That link in your email does not seem to work. Spelling mistake?
Yours, Mike
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:33 AM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I would say TDD and static code analysis are complementary.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
Agree, I have been playing with Sonar, which provides various metrics
and below you can find Tuscany 2.x (modules only) analysis.
http://www.figueiredos.com:8080/sonar/project/index/195
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
@Cesar Couto:
If I get it right (Luciano correct me if I am wrong) Sonar comes with
plug-ins for FindBugs, Checkstyle and PMD. So one could say it
aggregates commonly known static code analysis tools and thus uses
them complementary.
Proof: http://www.sonarsource.org/tag/findbugs/
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:42 AM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I use FindBugs, Checkstyle, PMD and other static code analysis tools
>> on my own where applicable while working on Apache or other projects.
>> According to my experience, enforcing such tools for instance during a
>> continuous integration build cycle has the advantage that it a) breaks
>> the build if configured to do so and b) somebody has to review the
>> reports generated by such tools which is a cumbersome task to do. So
>> IMHO using such tools interactively while developing code is more
>> appropriate than using them in a batch-like manner. Additionally I
>> would say FindBugs et al. are sometimes able to indicate potential
>> memory leaks based on a particular code fragment which is probably
>> something that can't be covered using unit tests only.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>
> Sonar fixes the "cumbersome report review task" issue" :)
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:42 AM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I use FindBugs, Checkstyle, PMD and other static code analysis tools
> on my own where applicable while working on Apache or other projects.
> According to my experience, enforcing such tools for instance during a
> continuous integration build cycle has the advantage that it a) breaks
> the build if configured to do so and b) somebody has to review the
> reports generated by such tools which is a cumbersome task to do. So
> IMHO using such tools interactively while developing code is more
> appropriate than using them in a batch-like manner. Additionally I
> would say FindBugs et al. are sometimes able to indicate potential
> memory leaks based on a particular code fragment which is probably
> something that can't be covered using unit tests only.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
Sonar fixes the "cumbersome report review task" issue" :)
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
oopps s/advantage/disadvantage/ or otherwise the whole sentence does
not make much sense :)
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:42 PM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I use FindBugs, Checkstyle, PMD and other static code analysis tools
> on my own where applicable while working on Apache or other projects.
> According to my experience, enforcing such tools for instance during a
> continuous integration build cycle has the advantage that it a) breaks
> the build if configured to do so and b) somebody has to review the
> reports generated by such tools which is a cumbersome task to do. So
> IMHO using such tools interactively while developing code is more
> appropriate than using them in a batch-like manner. Additionally I
> would say FindBugs et al. are sometimes able to indicate potential
> memory leaks based on a particular code fragment which is probably
> something that can't be covered using unit tests only.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> 2011/1/25 Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>:
>> Agree. I use it within Eclipse for developing Tuscany code once a while. It's useful for better code.
>>
>> We don't enforce these tools at maven build level. Developers are welcome to use them locally though.
>>
>> Raymond Feng
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:33 AM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would say TDD and static code analysis are complementary.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mike Edwards
>>> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear developers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>>>>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>>>>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>>>>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>>>>
>>>>> part of the system development process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cesar Couto
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
>>>>
>>>> Cesar,
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak for all Tuscany developers, but I can say that I don't use
>>>> FindBugs and I am not aware of anyone who does.
>>>>
>>>> Our approach in Tuscany is more Test Driven Development, where the
>>>> development process is led by the creation of testcases which are used to
>>>> drive and check the development or modification of code.
>>>>
>>>> The advantage of this general approach is that we build up a set of
>>>> testcases that are then used to validate all future changes in the codebase
>>>> - and which quickly expose any problems caused by code modifications and
>>>> code additions.
>>>>
>>>> The main problem with test driven development is in getting a sufficiently
>>>> extensive set of testcases - some situations can be difficult to model (eg
>>>> code running in multiple separate JVMs), plus there is the inevitable
>>>> failure of imagination and/or foresight as to how the code will be used.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yours, Mike.
>>>>
>>
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
I use FindBugs, Checkstyle, PMD and other static code analysis tools
on my own where applicable while working on Apache or other projects.
According to my experience, enforcing such tools for instance during a
continuous integration build cycle has the advantage that it a) breaks
the build if configured to do so and b) somebody has to review the
reports generated by such tools which is a cumbersome task to do. So
IMHO using such tools interactively while developing code is more
appropriate than using them in a batch-like manner. Additionally I
would say FindBugs et al. are sometimes able to indicate potential
memory leaks based on a particular code fragment which is probably
something that can't be covered using unit tests only.
Cheers
Daniel
2011/1/25 Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>:
> Agree. I use it within Eclipse for developing Tuscany code once a while. It's useful for better code.
>
> We don't enforce these tools at maven build level. Developers are welcome to use them locally though.
>
> Raymond Feng
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:33 AM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would say TDD and static code analysis are complementary.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mike Edwards
>> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear developers,
>>>>
>>>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>>>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>>>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>>>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>>>
>>>> part of the system development process.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Cesar Couto
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
>>>
>>> Cesar,
>>>
>>> I can't speak for all Tuscany developers, but I can say that I don't use
>>> FindBugs and I am not aware of anyone who does.
>>>
>>> Our approach in Tuscany is more Test Driven Development, where the
>>> development process is led by the creation of testcases which are used to
>>> drive and check the development or modification of code.
>>>
>>> The advantage of this general approach is that we build up a set of
>>> testcases that are then used to validate all future changes in the codebase
>>> - and which quickly expose any problems caused by code modifications and
>>> code additions.
>>>
>>> The main problem with test driven development is in getting a sufficiently
>>> extensive set of testcases - some situations can be difficult to model (eg
>>> code running in multiple separate JVMs), plus there is the inevitable
>>> failure of imagination and/or foresight as to how the code will be used.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yours, Mike.
>>>
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Raymond Feng <en...@gmail.com>.
Agree. I use it within Eclipse for developing Tuscany code once a while. It's useful for better code.
We don't enforce these tools at maven build level. Developers are welcome to use them locally though.
Raymond Feng
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:33 AM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I would say TDD and static code analysis are complementary.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mike Edwards
> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear developers,
>>>
>>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>>
>>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>>
>>> part of the system development process.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Cesar Couto
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
>>
>> Cesar,
>>
>> I can't speak for all Tuscany developers, but I can say that I don't use
>> FindBugs and I am not aware of anyone who does.
>>
>> Our approach in Tuscany is more Test Driven Development, where the
>> development process is led by the creation of testcases which are used to
>> drive and check the development or modification of code.
>>
>> The advantage of this general approach is that we build up a set of
>> testcases that are then used to validate all future changes in the codebase
>> - and which quickly expose any problems caused by code modifications and
>> code additions.
>>
>> The main problem with test driven development is in getting a sufficiently
>> extensive set of testcases - some situations can be difficult to model (eg
>> code running in multiple separate JVMs), plus there is the inevitable
>> failure of imagination and/or foresight as to how the code will be used.
>>
>>
>> Yours, Mike.
>>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
I would say TDD and static code analysis are complementary.
Cheers
Daniel
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mike Edwards
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>>
>> Dear developers,
>>
>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>
>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>
>> part of the system development process.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Cesar Couto
>>
>> --
>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
>
> Cesar,
>
> I can't speak for all Tuscany developers, but I can say that I don't use
> FindBugs and I am not aware of anyone who does.
>
> Our approach in Tuscany is more Test Driven Development, where the
> development process is led by the creation of testcases which are used to
> drive and check the development or modification of code.
>
> The advantage of this general approach is that we build up a set of
> testcases that are then used to validate all future changes in the codebase
> - and which quickly expose any problems caused by code modifications and
> code additions.
>
> The main problem with test driven development is in getting a sufficiently
> extensive set of testcases - some situations can be difficult to model (eg
> code running in multiple separate JVMs), plus there is the inevitable
> failure of imagination and/or foresight as to how the code will be used.
>
>
> Yours, Mike.
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>
> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>
> part of the system development process.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Cesar Couto
>
> --
> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
Cesar,
I can't speak for all Tuscany developers, but I can say that I don't use FindBugs and I am not aware
of anyone who does.
Our approach in Tuscany is more Test Driven Development, where the development process is led by the
creation of testcases which are used to drive and check the development or modification of code.
The advantage of this general approach is that we build up a set of testcases that are then used to
validate all future changes in the codebase - and which quickly expose any problems caused by code
modifications and code additions.
The main problem with test driven development is in getting a sufficiently extensive set of
testcases - some situations can be difficult to model (eg code running in multiple separate JVMs),
plus there is the inevitable failure of imagination and/or foresight as to how the code will be used.
Yours, Mike.
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Florian MOGA <mo...@gmail.com>.
Besides static analysis tools, what do you think about starting to use a
code review tool? I've noticed https://reviews.apache.org/ but there was no
tuscany group. Is there something else available inside the ASF? Have you
used something else in the past? For me at least it would be really useful
to get feedback from the more experienced Tuscany devs. Submitting patches
through a code review tool also seems more appropriate. And why not,
checking each others code before commit can only bring benefits (as far as i
know, Rietveld [1] assigns a reviewer based on the person that made the
latest changes on most of the files, that seems useful). Thoughts?
[1] http://code.google.com/p/rietveld/ It can be installed on AppEngine if
we want a tuscany dedicated instance.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:39 PM, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Didn't know that you were not aware of the fact that there are Eclipse
> plug-ins available for FindBugs, PMD etc. :)
>
> At IBM I am additionally using Rational Software Analyzer which can be
> used inside in Eclipse and it as well integrates into the CI system of
> Rational Team Concert.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mike Edwards
> <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 26/01/2011 10:23, Mike Edwards wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear developers,
> >>>
> >>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
> >>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
> >>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
> >>>
> >>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
> >>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
> >>>
> >>> part of the system development process.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>> Cesar Couto
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
> >>
> >> Cesar,
> >>
> >> Thinking about this further, I would like to point out that many of us
> use
> >> Eclipse when building and
> >> testing the code for Tuscany.
> >>
> >> Many of the basic static analysis items are dealt with by the code
> assist
> >> feature of Eclipse - and
> >> many of us rely on that without even thinking about it.
> >>
> >> Perhaps rather than having a separate tool like FindBugs it would be
> more
> >> interesting to investigate
> >> the possibility of extending the checking that Eclipse performs -
> Eclipse
> >> already does check some of
> >> the things that FindBugs checks, but not all of them. It would be far
> >> preferable to us Eclipse users
> >> to have static check done as we edit...then you absorb things without
> even
> >> thinking about them,
> >> which is often the most effective way.
> >>
> >>
> >> Yours, Mike.
> >
> > I'll answer my own question here.
> >
> > There ARE additional code plugins for Eclipse, for example as discussed
> > here:
> >
> >
> http://codedependents.com/2009/07/01/top-5-static-analysis-plugins-for-eclipse/
> >
> >
> > It might be good to ask why Eclipse don't include some of these
> > out-of-the-box rather than requiring delelopers to go download & install
> > extra stuff....
> >
> > I note that FindBugs is one of these plugins ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Yours, Mike.
> >
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
Didn't know that you were not aware of the fact that there are Eclipse
plug-ins available for FindBugs, PMD etc. :)
At IBM I am additionally using Rational Software Analyzer which can be
used inside in Eclipse and it as well integrates into the CI system of
Rational Team Concert.
Cheers
Daniel
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mike Edwards
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26/01/2011 10:23, Mike Edwards wrote:
>>
>> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear developers,
>>>
>>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>>
>>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>>
>>> part of the system development process.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Cesar Couto
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
>>
>> Cesar,
>>
>> Thinking about this further, I would like to point out that many of us use
>> Eclipse when building and
>> testing the code for Tuscany.
>>
>> Many of the basic static analysis items are dealt with by the code assist
>> feature of Eclipse - and
>> many of us rely on that without even thinking about it.
>>
>> Perhaps rather than having a separate tool like FindBugs it would be more
>> interesting to investigate
>> the possibility of extending the checking that Eclipse performs - Eclipse
>> already does check some of
>> the things that FindBugs checks, but not all of them. It would be far
>> preferable to us Eclipse users
>> to have static check done as we edit...then you absorb things without even
>> thinking about them,
>> which is often the most effective way.
>>
>>
>> Yours, Mike.
>
> I'll answer my own question here.
>
> There ARE additional code plugins for Eclipse, for example as discussed
> here:
>
> http://codedependents.com/2009/07/01/top-5-static-analysis-plugins-for-eclipse/
>
>
> It might be good to ask why Eclipse don't include some of these
> out-of-the-box rather than requiring delelopers to go download & install
> extra stuff....
>
> I note that FindBugs is one of these plugins ;-)
>
>
>
> Yours, Mike.
>
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 26/01/2011 10:23, Mike Edwards wrote:
> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>> Dear developers,
>>
>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>
>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>
>> part of the system development process.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Cesar Couto
>>
>> --
>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
> Cesar,
>
> Thinking about this further, I would like to point out that many of us use Eclipse when building and
> testing the code for Tuscany.
>
> Many of the basic static analysis items are dealt with by the code assist feature of Eclipse - and
> many of us rely on that without even thinking about it.
>
> Perhaps rather than having a separate tool like FindBugs it would be more interesting to investigate
> the possibility of extending the checking that Eclipse performs - Eclipse already does check some of
> the things that FindBugs checks, but not all of them. It would be far preferable to us Eclipse users
> to have static check done as we edit...then you absorb things without even thinking about them,
> which is often the most effective way.
>
>
> Yours, Mike.
I'll answer my own question here.
There ARE additional code plugins for Eclipse, for example as discussed here:
http://codedependents.com/2009/07/01/top-5-static-analysis-plugins-for-eclipse/
It might be good to ask why Eclipse don't include some of these out-of-the-box rather than requiring
delelopers to go download & install extra stuff....
I note that FindBugs is one of these plugins ;-)
Yours, Mike.
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Mike Edwards
<mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
>>
>> Dear developers,
>>
>> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
>> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
>> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>>
>> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
>> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>>
>> part of the system development process.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Cesar Couto
>>
>> --
>> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
>
> Cesar,
>
> Thinking about this further, I would like to point out that many of us use
> Eclipse when building and testing the code for Tuscany.
>
> Many of the basic static analysis items are dealt with by the code assist
> feature of Eclipse - and many of us rely on that without even thinking about
> it.
>
> Perhaps rather than having a separate tool like FindBugs it would be more
> interesting to investigate the possibility of extending the checking that
> Eclipse performs - Eclipse already does check some of the things that
> FindBugs checks, but not all of them. It would be far preferable to us
> Eclipse users to have static check done as we edit...then you absorb things
> without even thinking about them, which is often the most effective way.
>
>
> Yours, Mike.
>
Touche! I found this page...
http://codedependents.com/2009/07/01/top-5-static-analysis-plugins-for-eclipse/
Simon
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Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com
Re: Do Tuscany developers use FindBugs?
Posted by Mike Edwards <mi...@gmail.com>.
On 24/01/2011 18:13, César Couto wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> I am a PhD student at UFMG, Brazil and as part of my research I am
> making a study about the relevance of the warnings reported by the
> FindBugs bug finding tool.
>
> Since I am planning to use Tuscany as a subject system in my research,
> I would like to know if Tuscany's developers usually run FindBugs as
>
> part of the system development process.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Cesar Couto
>
> --
> http://www.decom.cefetmg.br/cesar
Cesar,
Thinking about this further, I would like to point out that many of us use Eclipse when building and
testing the code for Tuscany.
Many of the basic static analysis items are dealt with by the code assist feature of Eclipse - and
many of us rely on that without even thinking about it.
Perhaps rather than having a separate tool like FindBugs it would be more interesting to investigate
the possibility of extending the checking that Eclipse performs - Eclipse already does check some of
the things that FindBugs checks, but not all of them. It would be far preferable to us Eclipse
users to have static check done as we edit...then you absorb things without even thinking about
them, which is often the most effective way.
Yours, Mike.