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Posted to dev@stratos.apache.org by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> on 2014/06/21 12:20:43 UTC
Stratos mentors
Hi Devs,
I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
Stratos.
Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
mentoring Stratos contributors? Maybe we could have a page in the
wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
Cheers,
Chris
---
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
Re: Stratos mentors
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
This is an excellent initiative.
On 21 June 2014 12:20, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Devs,
>
> I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
> to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
> that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
> projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
>
> I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
> interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
> Stratos.
>
> Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
> mentoring Stratos contributors? Maybe we could have a page in the
> wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>.
Sounds great. Heading to a party now for my son’s friend.
I was just examining STRATOS-680 and the initial thread, and I’ll be at your ready.
Dale
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:59 AM
To: dev
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Great stuff Dale! I will start gathering my thoughts around the task and also put your name against it. I'll email you directly in the next day or so to get things started.
On 21 Jun 2014 16:40, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Nothing like doing, Chris. Nice. ☺
I’m game for the first one, if you are open to being my mentor for it and you think the time I am committing (hour a day) is sufficient.
If so, do we continue talking on here, or go to some other method.
Dale
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:34 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
Hi Dale, some answers inline:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Not to get too formal, I appreciate the organic, but I am curious… what would be the vision of mentoring (picture of where we would be in the future):
1) Increase the population of people actively contributing to the project
Yes.
2) Increase the use of Stratos
Yes.
3) Provide a means of helping to distribute work
Perhaps.
4) ?
In other words, why are we doing this?
The vision could help frame the mission (definition of what we do) on how mentoring is done.
Which leads to the strategy (outline of how we go about the mission to achieve the vision).
Also curious on whether any of the other communities have done mentoring so we could leverage what they have done (lessons learned: things gone right, things gone wrong) rather than start from scratch. Anybody come from an environment that had this?
I would be interested in hearing some feedback on the best practice.
Lastly, I am wondering also whether an initiative like this would have a wiki page to promote the activity and how that is coordinated.
Page added here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Mentoring+scheme+for+new+contributors
Kind regards,
Dale
From: Dale Chalfant [mailto:dchalfant@greaterbrain.com<ma...@greaterbrain.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:53 AM
To: dev@stratos.apache.org<ma...@stratos.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Small, bite sized, tasks are good for a few reasons:
1) Does not take much effort on either party
2) Allows for deployment or work by those who can do task
3) Could be rolled up to more complex activity
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:36 AM
To: dev
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need to be done. The table could have headings like this:
- Task overview
- JIRA link (if applicable)
- What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
- What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
- What you will learn from doing the task
- Approx effort of task
- Mentor and contact email
- Mentee (when assigned)
What do you think?
Cheers,
Chris
On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Hello Team:
I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the eMails going by.
I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
But step at a time…
What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
A bit about me:
I am 50/50 Business and IT.
I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
1) Business architecture
2) Solution architecture
3) Information architecture
4) Technical architecture
And the specialty architectures:
1) Service architecture
2) Product architecture
3) Security architecture
From the EA perspective:
1) Governance
2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
3) Reference model
4) Reference architectures
5) Ontology
6) Frameworks
7) SDLC
It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but formerly I did in:
1) Java
2) C
3) Perl
4) SQL
5) PL/SQL
6) COBOL
7) Assembler
8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
My databases:
1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
2) SQL/Server
3) DB2
4) IMS
5) Berkeley DB
6) DBXML
I have also written course materials for SOA.
Kind regards,
Dale Chalfant
+1-248-835-4523<tel:%2B1-248-835-4523>
[http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
From: Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Devs,
I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
Stratos.
Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
mentoring Stratos contributors?
Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
Maybe we could have a page in the
wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
Cheers,
Chris
---
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
--
Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn. http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Great stuff Dale! I will start gathering my thoughts around the task and
also put your name against it. I'll email you directly in the next day or
so to get things started.
On 21 Jun 2014 16:40, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com> wrote:
> Nothing like doing, Chris. Nice. J
>
>
>
> I’m game for the first one, if you are open to being my mentor for it and
> you think the time I am committing (hour a day) is sufficient.
>
>
>
>
>
> If so, do we continue talking on here, or go to some other method.
>
>
>
> Dale
>
>
>
> *From:* chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:34 AM
> *To:* dev
> *Subject:* Re: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
> Hi Dale, some answers inline:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>
> wrote:
>
> Not to get too formal, I appreciate the organic, but I am curious… what
> would be the vision of mentoring (picture of where we would be in the
> future):
>
> 1) Increase the population of people actively contributing to the
> project
>
> Yes.
>
> 2) Increase the use of Stratos
>
> Yes.
>
> 3) Provide a means of helping to distribute work
>
> Perhaps.
>
> 4) ?
>
> In other words, why are we doing this?
>
>
>
> The vision could help frame the mission (definition of what we do) on how
> mentoring is done.
>
>
>
> Which leads to the strategy (outline of how we go about the mission to
> achieve the vision).
>
>
>
>
>
> Also curious on whether any of the other communities have done mentoring
> so we could leverage what they have done (lessons learned: things gone
> right, things gone wrong) rather than start from scratch. Anybody come
> from an environment that had this?
>
>
>
> I would be interested in hearing some feedback on the best practice.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lastly, I am wondering also whether an initiative like this would have a
> wiki page to promote the activity and how that is coordinated.
>
>
>
> Page added here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Mentoring+scheme+for+new+contributors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Dale
>
>
>
> *From:* Dale Chalfant [mailto:dchalfant@greaterbrain.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:53 AM
> *To:* dev@stratos.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
> Small, bite sized, tasks are good for a few reasons:
>
> 1) Does not take much effort on either party
>
> 2) Allows for deployment or work by those who can do task
>
> 3) Could be rolled up to more complex activity
>
>
>
> *From:* chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:36 AM
> *To:* dev
> *Subject:* RE: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
> Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
>
> At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task
> basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need
> to be done. The table could have headings like this:
>
> - Task overview
> - JIRA link (if applicable)
> - What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
> - What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
> - What you will learn from doing the task
> - Approx effort of task
> - Mentor and contact email
> - Mentee (when assigned)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Team:
>
>
>
> I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming
> in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the
> eMails going by.
>
>
>
> I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some
> time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a
> sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and
> two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the
> viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple
> tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
>
> But step at a time…
>
>
>
> What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
>
>
>
> A bit about me:
>
>
>
> I am 50/50 Business and IT.
>
>
>
> I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
>
> 1) Business architecture
>
> 2) Solution architecture
>
> 3) Information architecture
>
> 4) Technical architecture
>
> And the specialty architectures:
>
> 1) Service architecture
>
> 2) Product architecture
>
> 3) Security architecture
>
> From the EA perspective:
>
> 1) Governance
>
> 2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
>
> 3) Reference model
>
> 4) Reference architectures
>
> 5) Ontology
>
> 6) Frameworks
>
> 7) SDLC
>
>
>
> It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but
> formerly I did in:
>
> 1) Java
>
> 2) C
>
> 3) Perl
>
> 4) SQL
>
> 5) PL/SQL
>
> 6) COBOL
>
> 7) Assembler
>
> 8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
>
> 9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
>
>
>
> My databases:
>
> 1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
>
> 2) SQL/Server
>
> 3) DB2
>
> 4) IMS
>
> 5) Berkeley DB
>
> 6) DBXML
>
>
>
> I have also written course materials for SOA.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dale Chalfant
>
> +1-248-835-4523
>
>
>
> [image: http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
> *To:* dev
> *Subject:* Re: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Devs,
>
> I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
> to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
> that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
> projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
>
> I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
> interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
> Stratos.
>
> Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
> mentoring Stratos contributors?
>
>
>
> Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
>
>
> Maybe we could have a page in the
> wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
>
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn.
> http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
>
RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>.
Nothing like doing, Chris. Nice. ☺
I’m game for the first one, if you are open to being my mentor for it and you think the time I am committing (hour a day) is sufficient.
If so, do we continue talking on here, or go to some other method.
Dale
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:34 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
Hi Dale, some answers inline:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Not to get too formal, I appreciate the organic, but I am curious… what would be the vision of mentoring (picture of where we would be in the future):
1) Increase the population of people actively contributing to the project
Yes.
2) Increase the use of Stratos
Yes.
3) Provide a means of helping to distribute work
Perhaps.
4) ?
In other words, why are we doing this?
The vision could help frame the mission (definition of what we do) on how mentoring is done.
Which leads to the strategy (outline of how we go about the mission to achieve the vision).
Also curious on whether any of the other communities have done mentoring so we could leverage what they have done (lessons learned: things gone right, things gone wrong) rather than start from scratch. Anybody come from an environment that had this?
I would be interested in hearing some feedback on the best practice.
Lastly, I am wondering also whether an initiative like this would have a wiki page to promote the activity and how that is coordinated.
Page added here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Mentoring+scheme+for+new+contributors
Kind regards,
Dale
From: Dale Chalfant [mailto:dchalfant@greaterbrain.com<ma...@greaterbrain.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:53 AM
To: dev@stratos.apache.org<ma...@stratos.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Small, bite sized, tasks are good for a few reasons:
1) Does not take much effort on either party
2) Allows for deployment or work by those who can do task
3) Could be rolled up to more complex activity
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:36 AM
To: dev
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need to be done. The table could have headings like this:
- Task overview
- JIRA link (if applicable)
- What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
- What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
- What you will learn from doing the task
- Approx effort of task
- Mentor and contact email
- Mentee (when assigned)
What do you think?
Cheers,
Chris
On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Hello Team:
I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the eMails going by.
I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
But step at a time…
What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
A bit about me:
I am 50/50 Business and IT.
I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
1) Business architecture
2) Solution architecture
3) Information architecture
4) Technical architecture
And the specialty architectures:
1) Service architecture
2) Product architecture
3) Security architecture
From the EA perspective:
1) Governance
2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
3) Reference model
4) Reference architectures
5) Ontology
6) Frameworks
7) SDLC
It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but formerly I did in:
1) Java
2) C
3) Perl
4) SQL
5) PL/SQL
6) COBOL
7) Assembler
8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
My databases:
1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
2) SQL/Server
3) DB2
4) IMS
5) Berkeley DB
6) DBXML
I have also written course materials for SOA.
Kind regards,
Dale Chalfant
+1-248-835-4523<tel:%2B1-248-835-4523>
[http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
From: Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Devs,
I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
Stratos.
Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
mentoring Stratos contributors?
Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
Maybe we could have a page in the
wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
Cheers,
Chris
---
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
--
Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn. http://lnkd.in/cw5k69
Re: Stratos mentors
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dale, some answers inline:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>
wrote:
> Not to get too formal, I appreciate the organic, but I am curious… what
> would be the vision of mentoring (picture of where we would be in the
> future):
>
> 1) Increase the population of people actively contributing to the
> project
>
Yes.
> 2) Increase the use of Stratos
>
Yes.
> 3) Provide a means of helping to distribute work
>
Perhaps.
> 4) ?
>
> In other words, why are we doing this?
>
>
>
> The vision could help frame the mission (definition of what we do) on how
> mentoring is done.
>
>
>
> Which leads to the strategy (outline of how we go about the mission to
> achieve the vision).
>
>
>
>
>
> Also curious on whether any of the other communities have done mentoring
> so we could leverage what they have done (lessons learned: things gone
> right, things gone wrong) rather than start from scratch. Anybody come
> from an environment that had this?
>
I would be interested in hearing some feedback on the best practice.
>
>
>
>
> Lastly, I am wondering also whether an initiative like this would have a
> wiki page to promote the activity and how that is coordinated.
>
Page added here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Mentoring+scheme+for+new+contributors
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Dale
>
>
>
> *From:* Dale Chalfant [mailto:dchalfant@greaterbrain.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:53 AM
> *To:* dev@stratos.apache.org
> *Subject:* RE: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
> Small, bite sized, tasks are good for a few reasons:
>
> 1) Does not take much effort on either party
>
> 2) Allows for deployment or work by those who can do task
>
> 3) Could be rolled up to more complex activity
>
>
>
> *From:* chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:36 AM
> *To:* dev
> *Subject:* RE: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
> Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
>
> At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task
> basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need
> to be done. The table could have headings like this:
>
> - Task overview
> - JIRA link (if applicable)
> - What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
> - What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
> - What you will learn from doing the task
> - Approx effort of task
> - Mentor and contact email
> - Mentee (when assigned)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Team:
>
>
>
> I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming
> in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the
> eMails going by.
>
>
>
> I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some
> time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a
> sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and
> two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the
> viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple
> tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
>
> But step at a time…
>
>
>
> What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
>
>
>
> A bit about me:
>
>
>
> I am 50/50 Business and IT.
>
>
>
> I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
>
> 1) Business architecture
>
> 2) Solution architecture
>
> 3) Information architecture
>
> 4) Technical architecture
>
> And the specialty architectures:
>
> 1) Service architecture
>
> 2) Product architecture
>
> 3) Security architecture
>
> From the EA perspective:
>
> 1) Governance
>
> 2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
>
> 3) Reference model
>
> 4) Reference architectures
>
> 5) Ontology
>
> 6) Frameworks
>
> 7) SDLC
>
>
>
> It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but
> formerly I did in:
>
> 1) Java
>
> 2) C
>
> 3) Perl
>
> 4) SQL
>
> 5) PL/SQL
>
> 6) COBOL
>
> 7) Assembler
>
> 8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
>
> 9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
>
>
>
> My databases:
>
> 1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
>
> 2) SQL/Server
>
> 3) DB2
>
> 4) IMS
>
> 5) Berkeley DB
>
> 6) DBXML
>
>
>
> I have also written course materials for SOA.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dale Chalfant
>
> +1-248-835-4523
>
>
>
> [image: http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
> *To:* dev
> *Subject:* Re: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Devs,
>
> I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
> to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
> that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
> projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
>
> I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
> interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
> Stratos.
>
> Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
> mentoring Stratos contributors?
>
>
>
> Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
>
>
> Maybe we could have a page in the
> wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
>
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
>
--
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RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>.
Not to get too formal, I appreciate the organic, but I am curious… what would be the vision of mentoring (picture of where we would be in the future):
1) Increase the population of people actively contributing to the project
2) Increase the use of Stratos
3) Provide a means of helping to distribute work
4) ?
In other words, why are we doing this?
The vision could help frame the mission (definition of what we do) on how mentoring is done.
Which leads to the strategy (outline of how we go about the mission to achieve the vision).
Also curious on whether any of the other communities have done mentoring so we could leverage what they have done (lessons learned: things gone right, things gone wrong) rather than start from scratch. Anybody come from an environment that had this?
Lastly, I am wondering also whether an initiative like this would have a wiki page to promote the activity and how that is coordinated.
Kind regards,
Dale
From: Dale Chalfant [mailto:dchalfant@greaterbrain.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:53 AM
To: dev@stratos.apache.org
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Small, bite sized, tasks are good for a few reasons:
1) Does not take much effort on either party
2) Allows for deployment or work by those who can do task
3) Could be rolled up to more complex activity
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:36 AM
To: dev
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need to be done. The table could have headings like this:
- Task overview
- JIRA link (if applicable)
- What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
- What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
- What you will learn from doing the task
- Approx effort of task
- Mentor and contact email
- Mentee (when assigned)
What do you think?
Cheers,
Chris
On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Hello Team:
I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the eMails going by.
I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
But step at a time…
What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
A bit about me:
I am 50/50 Business and IT.
I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
1) Business architecture
2) Solution architecture
3) Information architecture
4) Technical architecture
And the specialty architectures:
1) Service architecture
2) Product architecture
3) Security architecture
From the EA perspective:
1) Governance
2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
3) Reference model
4) Reference architectures
5) Ontology
6) Frameworks
7) SDLC
It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but formerly I did in:
1) Java
2) C
3) Perl
4) SQL
5) PL/SQL
6) COBOL
7) Assembler
8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
My databases:
1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
2) SQL/Server
3) DB2
4) IMS
5) Berkeley DB
6) DBXML
I have also written course materials for SOA.
Kind regards,
Dale Chalfant
+1-248-835-4523<tel:%2B1-248-835-4523>
[http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
From: Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Devs,
I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
Stratos.
Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
mentoring Stratos contributors?
Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
Maybe we could have a page in the
wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
Cheers,
Chris
---
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>.
Small, bite sized, tasks are good for a few reasons:
1) Does not take much effort on either party
2) Allows for deployment or work by those who can do task
3) Could be rolled up to more complex activity
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:36 AM
To: dev
Subject: RE: Stratos mentors
Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need to be done. The table could have headings like this:
- Task overview
- JIRA link (if applicable)
- What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
- What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
- What you will learn from doing the task
- Approx effort of task
- Mentor and contact email
- Mentee (when assigned)
What do you think?
Cheers,
Chris
On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com>> wrote:
Hello Team:
I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the eMails going by.
I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
But step at a time…
What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
A bit about me:
I am 50/50 Business and IT.
I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
1) Business architecture
2) Solution architecture
3) Information architecture
4) Technical architecture
And the specialty architectures:
1) Service architecture
2) Product architecture
3) Security architecture
From the EA perspective:
1) Governance
2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
3) Reference model
4) Reference architectures
5) Ontology
6) Frameworks
7) SDLC
It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but formerly I did in:
1) Java
2) C
3) Perl
4) SQL
5) PL/SQL
6) COBOL
7) Assembler
8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
My databases:
1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
2) SQL/Server
3) DB2
4) IMS
5) Berkeley DB
6) DBXML
I have also written course materials for SOA.
Kind regards,
Dale Chalfant
+1-248-835-4523<tel:%2B1-248-835-4523>
[http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
From: Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Devs,
I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
Stratos.
Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
mentoring Stratos contributors?
Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
Maybe we could have a page in the
wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
Cheers,
Chris
---
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dale, thanks for the interest!
At the moment, I'm thinking that mentoring should be on a task by task
basis, and that we have a wiki page with a table to track tasks that need
to be done. The table could have headings like this:
- Task overview
- JIRA link (if applicable)
- What are the benefits of the task to stratos?
- What you need to do the task (e.g. Environment and knowledge)
- What you will learn from doing the task
- Approx effort of task
- Mentor and contact email
- Mentee (when assigned)
What do you think?
Cheers,
Chris
On 21 Jun 2014 13:33, "Dale Chalfant" <dc...@greaterbrain.com> wrote:
> Hello Team:
>
>
>
> I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming
> in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the
> eMails going by.
>
>
>
> I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some
> time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a
> sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and
> two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the
> viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple
> tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
>
> But step at a time…
>
>
>
> What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
>
>
>
> A bit about me:
>
>
>
> I am 50/50 Business and IT.
>
>
>
> I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
>
> 1) Business architecture
>
> 2) Solution architecture
>
> 3) Information architecture
>
> 4) Technical architecture
>
> And the specialty architectures:
>
> 1) Service architecture
>
> 2) Product architecture
>
> 3) Security architecture
>
> From the EA perspective:
>
> 1) Governance
>
> 2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
>
> 3) Reference model
>
> 4) Reference architectures
>
> 5) Ontology
>
> 6) Frameworks
>
> 7) SDLC
>
>
>
> It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but
> formerly I did in:
>
> 1) Java
>
> 2) C
>
> 3) Perl
>
> 4) SQL
>
> 5) PL/SQL
>
> 6) COBOL
>
> 7) Assembler
>
> 8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
>
> 9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
>
>
>
> My databases:
>
> 1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
>
> 2) SQL/Server
>
> 3) DB2
>
> 4) IMS
>
> 5) Berkeley DB
>
> 6) DBXML
>
>
>
> I have also written course materials for SOA.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dale Chalfant
>
> +1-248-835-4523
>
>
>
> [image: http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
> *To:* dev
> *Subject:* Re: Stratos mentors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Devs,
>
> I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
> to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
> that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
> projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
>
> I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
> interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
> Stratos.
>
> Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
> mentoring Stratos contributors?
>
>
>
> Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
>
>
> Maybe we could have a page in the
> wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
> Nirmal
>
> Nirmal Fernando.
> PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
> Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
>
>
>
> Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
>
RE: Stratos mentors
Posted by Dale Chalfant <dc...@greaterbrain.com>.
Hello Team:
I have been tracking Stratos for about a year now off and on and chiming in every now and then. More or less, though, I have been reading the eMails going by.
I appreciate what you all are doing, and I would like to dedicate some time to the effort. I would like to volunteer as a mentee with a sustainable budget of 7 hours a week. This could be an hour a weekday, and two on Saturday. We could figure out the program together from the viewpoint of the mentor and mentee. I expect there would be multiple tracks for various roles, but that would be part of the discovery.
But step at a time…
What would be required from an equipment/software perspective.
A bit about me:
I am 50/50 Business and IT.
I am an Enterprise Architect with competency in
1) Business architecture
2) Solution architecture
3) Information architecture
4) Technical architecture
And the specialty architectures:
1) Service architecture
2) Product architecture
3) Security architecture
From the EA perspective:
1) Governance
2) Policy, standards, exception to policy (waivers)
3) Reference model
4) Reference architectures
5) Ontology
6) Frameworks
7) SDLC
It has been years since I have programmed (so be patient with me), but formerly I did in:
1) Java
2) C
3) Perl
4) SQL
5) PL/SQL
6) COBOL
7) Assembler
8) JCL, REXX, CLISTS
9) BASIC (GW, Waterloo, VB, VBA)
My databases:
1) Oracle (kept most up to date)
2) SQL/Server
3) DB2
4) IMS
5) Berkeley DB
6) DBXML
I have also written course materials for SOA.
Kind regards,
Dale Chalfant
+1-248-835-4523
[http://greaterbrain.com/Pages/signature.png]
From: Nirmal Fernando [mailto:nirmal070125@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:57 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: Stratos mentors
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Devs,
I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
Stratos.
Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
mentoring Stratos contributors?
Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
Maybe we could have a page in the
wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
Cheers,
Chris
---
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/
Re: Stratos mentors
Posted by Nirmal Fernando <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Devs,
>
> I just added a JIRA ticket for an improvement that will allows users
> to install stratos from releases artifacts [1], and it got me thinking
> that this task (and a few others I have added to JIRA) would be ideal
> projects for new developers coming to Stratos.
>
> I'm still a Stratos newbie (relatively speaking), but I would be
> interested in mentoring other newcomers who want to contribute to
> Stratos.
>
> Has this been tried before? Would anyone else be interested in
> mentoring Stratos contributors?
Good idea Chris! I'd like to help.
> Maybe we could have a page in the
> wiki listing some tasks and the task mentors?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STRATOS-680
>
--
Best Regards,
Nirmal
Nirmal Fernando.
PPMC Member & Committer of Apache Stratos,
Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.
Blog: http://nirmalfdo.blogspot.com/