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Re: [OT] Anatomy of a long URL
Bryan Hunt wrote:
> I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
> regardless of
> what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
Craig McClanahan
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Re: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Erik Weber <er...@mindspring.com>.
If you search for "web app tutorial" you should find something, but:
make this structure/files:
*.jsp
*.html
images/
WEB-INF/
WEB-INF/classes
WEB-INF/lib
WEB-INF/web.xml
from the root (you are in the directory that contains the JSPs, and the
WEB-INF directory, and the images directory if you have one), execute:
jar cf MyWebApp.war *.jsp *.html WEB-INF/ images/
A war file is just a zip file with some special contents in a particular
arrangement! You can also create it with winzip if you prefer.
execute this to verify what you have:
jar tf MyWebApp.war (or unzip -l MyWebApp.war)
You should see that the jar tool has created the MANIFEST.MF file for
you in addition to what you built.
For most servers (such as JBoss and the newer WebLogics), you simply
drop this war into a /deploy or similar directory and the server does
the rest.
If you are trying to build a Struts web app, look here:
http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main
It'll get you going.
And yes, the deploy tool (as well as most of the J2EE tutorial) is lame.
Do they expect actual humans to keep rereading this stuff?
Erik
Mike Duffy wrote:
>Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
>
>Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
>
>AHHGGG!!!!
>
>I just want to deploy a simple war file. I googled around and I could not even find good
>documentation (Sun or elsewhere).
>
>Does anyone know of a good plugin for Eclipse that creates war files? I guess JBuilder has a good
>war file creation utility.
>
>Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
>correct "deployment descripter"? I could not find an example of doing this.
>
>Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
>
>I hate wasting time on stuff that should be simple.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>--- Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Bryan Hunt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
>>>regardless of
>>>what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
>>>
>>>
>>Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
>>export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
>>restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
>>don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
>>gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
>>
>>Craig McClanahan
>>
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Re: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Emmanouil Batsis <Em...@eurodyn.com>.
Mike Duffy wrote:
> Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
>
> Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
Um, yes; two years back though!
> I just want to deploy a simple war file.
Use Apache Ant. It will take you a week to become confident in writing
basic buildfiles, butyour life will change forever and other doors will
open as well (gode generation being one of them).
> Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
> correct "deployment descripter"?
True; you can do that using the jar command.
> Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
Yes.
hth,
Manos
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Re: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Navjot Singh <na...@net4india.net>.
All you need is ANT - ant.apache.org
either use it standalone outside eclipse OR
use it as plugin wihtin eclipse.
HTH
navjot singh
Mike Duffy wrote:
> Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
>
> Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
>
> AHHGGG!!!!
>
> I just want to deploy a simple war file. I googled around and I could not even find good
> documentation (Sun or elsewhere).
>
> Does anyone know of a good plugin for Eclipse that creates war files? I guess JBuilder has a good
> war file creation utility.
>
> Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
> correct "deployment descripter"? I could not find an example of doing this.
>
> Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
>
> I hate wasting time on stuff that should be simple.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> --- Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>Bryan Hunt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
>>>regardless of
>>>what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
>>
>>Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
>>export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
>>restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
>>don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
>>gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
>>
>>Craig McClanahan
>>
>>
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RE: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Robert Taylor <rt...@mulework.com>.
+1
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Hunt [mailto:admin@revoltingdigits.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:37 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
>
>
> Forget about it, the only way to do it without tearing your hair out is
> to use ANT
> and XDoclet.
>
> J2EE is all about "wasting time on stuff that should be simple".
>
> My 2 c, unless you need session beans it is better to use tomcat as your
> web container
> and hibernate for persistance.
>
> Use the spring framework for flexibility in case you need to change your
> mind later.
>
> --b
>
> Mike Duffy wrote:
>
> >Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
> >
> >Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
> >
> >AHHGGG!!!!
> >
> >I just want to deploy a simple war file. I googled around and I could not even find good
> >documentation (Sun or elsewhere).
> >
> >Does anyone know of a good plugin for Eclipse that creates war files? I guess JBuilder has a good
> >war file creation utility.
> >
> >Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
> >correct "deployment descripter"? I could not find an example of doing this.
> >
> >Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
> >
> >I hate wasting time on stuff that should be simple.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Bryan Hunt wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
> >>>regardless of
> >>>what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
> >>export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
> >>restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
> >>don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
> >>gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
> >>
> >>Craig McClanahan
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Bryan Hunt <ad...@revoltingdigits.com>.
Forget about it, the only way to do it without tearing your hair out is
to use ANT
and XDoclet.
J2EE is all about "wasting time on stuff that should be simple".
My 2 c, unless you need session beans it is better to use tomcat as your
web container
and hibernate for persistance.
Use the spring framework for flexibility in case you need to change your
mind later.
--b
Mike Duffy wrote:
>Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
>
>Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
>
>AHHGGG!!!!
>
>I just want to deploy a simple war file. I googled around and I could not even find good
>documentation (Sun or elsewhere).
>
>Does anyone know of a good plugin for Eclipse that creates war files? I guess JBuilder has a good
>war file creation utility.
>
>Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
>correct "deployment descripter"? I could not find an example of doing this.
>
>Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
>
>I hate wasting time on stuff that should be simple.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>--- Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Bryan Hunt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
>>>regardless of
>>>what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
>>>
>>>
>>Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
>>export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
>>restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
>>don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
>>gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
>>
>>Craig McClanahan
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Erik Weber <er...@mindspring.com>.
If you search for "web app tutorial" you should find something, but:
make this structure/files:
*.jsp
*.html
images/
WEB-INF/
WEB-INF/classes
WEB-INF/lib
WEB-INF/web.xml
put your class files in WEB-INF/classes, and put your third-party jar
files (dependencies) in WEB-INF/lib.
from the root (you are in the directory that contains the JSPs, and the
WEB-INF directory, and the images directory if you have one), execute:
jar cf MyWebApp.war *.jsp *.html WEB-INF/ images/
A war file is just a zip file with some special contents in a particular
arrangement! You can also create it with winzip if you prefer.
execute this to verify what you have:
jar tf MyWebApp.war (or unzip -l MyWebApp.war)
You should see the JSPs in the top level of the archive, and that the
jar tool has created the MANIFEST.MF file for
you in addition to what you built.
For most servers (such as JBoss and the newer WebLogics), you simply
drop this war into a /deploy or similar directory and the server does
the rest.
If you are trying to build a Struts web app, look here:
http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main
It'll get you going.
And yes, the deploy tool (as well as most of the J2EE tutorial) is lame.
Do they expect actual humans to keep rereading this stuff?
Erik
Mike Duffy wrote:
>Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
>
>Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
>
>AHHGGG!!!!
>
>I just want to deploy a simple war file. I googled around and I could not even find good
>documentation (Sun or elsewhere).
>
>Does anyone know of a good plugin for Eclipse that creates war files? I guess JBuilder has a good
>war file creation utility.
>
>Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
>correct "deployment descripter"? I could not find an example of doing this.
>
>Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
>
>I hate wasting time on stuff that should be simple.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>--- Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Bryan Hunt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
>>>regardless of
>>>what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
>>>
>>>
>>Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
>>export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
>>restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
>>don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
>>gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
>>
>>Craig McClanahan
>>
>>
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[OT] Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Posted by Mike Duffy <md...@yahoo.com>.
Speaking of "gratuitously difficult".....
Has anyone ever messed with the "deploytool" in J2EE?
AHHGGG!!!!
I just want to deploy a simple war file. I googled around and I could not even find good
documentation (Sun or elsewhere).
Does anyone know of a good plugin for Eclipse that creates war files? I guess JBuilder has a good
war file creation utility.
Basically, shouldn't I be able to jar up everything in a webapp directory as long as I add the
correct "deployment descripter"? I could not find an example of doing this.
Also, is it possible to create a war file that has a "context.xml" file?
I hate wasting time on stuff that should be simple.
Mike
--- Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> Bryan Hunt wrote:
>
> > I think someone in sun just wanted to create something fancy
> > regardless of
> > what the customers wanted just so he/she could put it on their cv.
>
> Anyone who thinks this is the real reason hasn't read the technology
> export restriction regulations that apply to US companies. The
> restrictions apply to the geographic location of the downloader, and
> don't have anything to do with sessions or trying to make it more
> gratuitously difficult to use command line tools.
>
> Craig McClanahan
>
>
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