Re: Team page on Cordova website

[Niklas Merz <ni...@apache.org>]

Hi everyone,

I would like to bring this back up. I managed to get this built
automatically from markdown files, where every team member could
describe themselves if they like to. I really liked the introduction
part of the last hangout and this would basically be the written form.

I would really like to see this come to live. The reason is that as an
outsider I cannot get any information who the people behind this project
are. Like discussed there is information from Apache (which we link to
[1] on the contribute page) who is part of this PMC but it's just a list
of 99 names. The new page may become outdated but it gives users an idea
who some of the active committers are right now and how and why they
work on Cordova.

If we could add like 5 active committers with their bio why they work on
Cordova to the page I would consider this a huge win to show the project
is alive and committers are invested in Cordova for many different reasons.

Somehow related we could updated the tools and apps on the homepage. We
link Phonegap (discontinued), Ionic (old logo and service information),
Visual Studio (discontinued) etc. there.

Here is my PR: https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/1063

Looking forward to feedback and reviews
Niklas

[1] http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?unix=cordova

On 2020/04/03 06:30:05, "Niklas Merz" <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
 > Good ideas. Yes a manual list will probably be outdate quickly. The
interesting part for this team page is a bio/description who you are and
how you work on Cordova I think. Like if you are working with Cordova on
you side projectes or you are part of Company heavily invested in
Cordova. Stuff like that.
> 
> Maybe we should fetch a list of all committers from the official Apache sources and sort/enricht them with the recently most active commiters and possibly their bio/description.
> 
> This definitly needs further ideas.
> 
> April 2, 2020 10:39 PM, "Jan Piotrowski" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > There are existing tools that do what you suggest Raphael, mostly to
> > put contributors into READMEs of projects but I am sure that could be
> > abused to put it into a Markdown file that is included in the docs.
> > 
> > Apache also has a site that lists all PMC members etc (that I think
> > uses some AJAX + a JSON file), so one could probably easily build a
> > tool on top of that to regularly update a list for example.
> > 
> > -J
> > 
> > Am Do., 2. Apr. 2020 um 12:04 Uhr schrieb <ra...@gmail.com>:
> > 
> >> I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but I wanted to voice my concerns
> >> regarding maintainability of such a list.
> >> 
> >> My experience tells me that things that won't make a CI fail and yell at
> >> you will get outdated pretty quickly and don't receive much maintenance.
> >> Some of our packages have contributors lists in their package.json for
> >> example. However they are not current but rather a snapshot from an
> >> arbitrary point in time. Actually I wanted to open some PRs for removing
> >> them for some time, but there had always been other, more important things
> >> to get done.
> >> 
> >> So how about, instead of maintaining a manual list that is bound to become
> >> outdated quickly, we try to leverage commit data from our repositories? I
> >> think of something like showing the most active committers of the last two
> >> years or something like that. Essentially a version of GitHub's
> >> Contributors[1] but aggregated over all our repos. I guess something like
> >> that should be achievable by using GitHub's API.
> >> <https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/graphs/contributors?from=2018-04-02&to=2020-04-02&type=c>
> >> 
> >> If this doesn't cover all bases we could still expand upon it: Add some
> >> static entries (e.g. PMC Chair), or show extended member profiles/bios in
> >> the dynamically generated list.
> >> 
> >> I'm looking forward to your opinions. And thank you Niklas for the work you
> >> already put in.
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> Raphael
> >> 
> >> [1]
> >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/graphs/contributors?from=2018-04-02&to=2020-04-02&type=c
> >> 
> >> Am Sa., 22. Feb. 2020 um 15:55 Uhr schrieb Niklas Merz <
> >> niklasmerz@apache.org>:
> >> 
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> 
> >> Like discussed before I think it might be a good idea to add a page to
> >> our website for Cordova users to get to know the community members.
> >> 
> >> I am writing here because to me this only makes sense if most of the
> >> active committers are involved and want to be part of this list.
> >> 
> >> I created this PR with the first draft and some screenshots:
> >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/1063
> >> 
> >> There are still some open points to do and discuss. I am not the best
> >> web designer and would appreciate any help. Feel free to push to this
> >> branch or create PRs any time.
> >> 
> >> Looking forward to make this happen.
> >> 
> >> Kind regards
> >> Niklas
> >> 
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Re: Team page on Cordova website

[Tim Brust <ti...@sinnerschrader.com.INVALID>]

I'm +1 for this and would add my bio. I'll take a look at your PR this week.

Before merging, I think we should gather at least 5 volunteers who would
add their bio, too.

Best,
Tim

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 10:18 PM Niklas Merz <ni...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to bring this back up. I managed to get this built
> automatically from markdown files, where every team member could
> describe themselves if they like to. I really liked the introduction
> part of the last hangout and this would basically be the written form.
>
> I would really like to see this come to live. The reason is that as an
> outsider I cannot get any information who the people behind this project
> are. Like discussed there is information from Apache (which we link to
> [1] on the contribute page) who is part of this PMC but it's just a list
> of 99 names. The new page may become outdated but it gives users an idea
> who some of the active committers are right now and how and why they
> work on Cordova.
>
> If we could add like 5 active committers with their bio why they work on
> Cordova to the page I would consider this a huge win to show the project
> is alive and committers are invested in Cordova for many different reasons.
>
> Somehow related we could updated the tools and apps on the homepage. We
> link Phonegap (discontinued), Ionic (old logo and service information),
> Visual Studio (discontinued) etc. there.
>
> Here is my PR: https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/1063
>
> Looking forward to feedback and reviews
> Niklas
>
> [1] http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?unix=cordova
>
> On 2020/04/03 06:30:05, "Niklas Merz" <ni...@apache.org> wrote:
>  > Good ideas. Yes a manual list will probably be outdate quickly. The
> interesting part for this team page is a bio/description who you are and
> how you work on Cordova I think. Like if you are working with Cordova on
> you side projectes or you are part of Company heavily invested in
> Cordova. Stuff like that.
> >
> > Maybe we should fetch a list of all committers from the official Apache
> sources and sort/enricht them with the recently most active commiters and
> possibly their bio/description.
> >
> > This definitly needs further ideas.
> >
> > April 2, 2020 10:39 PM, "Jan Piotrowski" <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There are existing tools that do what you suggest Raphael, mostly to
> > > put contributors into READMEs of projects but I am sure that could be
> > > abused to put it into a Markdown file that is included in the docs.
> > >
> > > Apache also has a site that lists all PMC members etc (that I think
> > > uses some AJAX + a JSON file), so one could probably easily build a
> > > tool on top of that to regularly update a list for example.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > > Am Do., 2. Apr. 2020 um 12:04 Uhr schrieb <ra...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but I wanted to voice my
> concerns
> > >> regarding maintainability of such a list.
> > >>
> > >> My experience tells me that things that won't make a CI fail and yell
> at
> > >> you will get outdated pretty quickly and don't receive much
> maintenance.
> > >> Some of our packages have contributors lists in their package.json for
> > >> example. However they are not current but rather a snapshot from an
> > >> arbitrary point in time. Actually I wanted to open some PRs for
> removing
> > >> them for some time, but there had always been other, more important
> things
> > >> to get done.
> > >>
> > >> So how about, instead of maintaining a manual list that is bound to
> become
> > >> outdated quickly, we try to leverage commit data from our
> repositories? I
> > >> think of something like showing the most active committers of the
> last two
> > >> years or something like that. Essentially a version of GitHub's
> > >> Contributors[1] but aggregated over all our repos. I guess something
> like
> > >> that should be achievable by using GitHub's API.
> > >> <
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/graphs/contributors?from=2018-04-02&to=2020-04-02&type=c
> >
> > >>
> > >> If this doesn't cover all bases we could still expand upon it: Add
> some
> > >> static entries (e.g. PMC Chair), or show extended member
> profiles/bios in
> > >> the dynamically generated list.
> > >>
> > >> I'm looking forward to your opinions. And thank you Niklas for the
> work you
> > >> already put in.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Raphael
> > >>
> > >> [1]
> > >>
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/graphs/contributors?from=2018-04-02&to=2020-04-02&type=c
> > >>
> > >> Am Sa., 22. Feb. 2020 um 15:55 Uhr schrieb Niklas Merz <
> > >> niklasmerz@apache.org>:
> > >>
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> Like discussed before I think it might be a good idea to add a page to
> > >> our website for Cordova users to get to know the community members.
> > >>
> > >> I am writing here because to me this only makes sense if most of the
> > >> active committers are involved and want to be part of this list.
> > >>
> > >> I created this PR with the first draft and some screenshots:
> > >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/1063
> > >>
> > >> There are still some open points to do and discuss. I am not the best
> > >> web designer and would appreciate any help. Feel free to push to this
> > >> branch or create PRs any time.
> > >>
> > >> Looking forward to make this happen.
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards
> > >> Niklas
> > >>
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