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Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Hi All
Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one would be a good starting point.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
Andrew Katz
Moorcrofts LLP
Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
I encourage you to take this to the legal list, but the answer to this
question has always been NO in the past. A translation of a legal document
is no longer the same document because nuance is lost and/or introduced in
the process of translation. At least that is how it has been explained each
time this is asked.
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018, 15:41 Andrew Katz <An...@moorcrofts.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a
> Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be
> getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back
> any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I
> realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one
> would be a good starting point.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Katz
> Moorcrofts LLP
>
>
>
Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Han Luke <lu...@gmail.com>.
I suggest to find some Chinese-US lawyer to help for review if we finnaly with go with translation. We need people understand leagal stuff both side.
And if will not go with translation, the idea is to have some explain and example in Chinese, say what’s kind of situation is ok and what’s not, it will help a lot for people to understand.
Anyway, I am happy to help, please let me know if there’s anything I could do for you.
Thanks.
________________________________
From: Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:20:45 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: Nick Burch
Subject: Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Andrew,
I presume you know that translating a license will open up a bit of a can
of worms. In particular, it makes the license harder to work with in the
original jurisdiction and working out kinks in a new jurisdiction can be
really a lot of work.
Be prepared to have not just one Chinese lawyer review it, but several. And
include somebody who is current on the state of copyright law in your
intended jurisdiction.
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Katz <An...@moorcrofts.com>
wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a
> Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be
> getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back
> any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I
> realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one
> would be a good starting point.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Katz
> Moorcrofts LLP
>
>
>
Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Andrew,
I presume you know that translating a license will open up a bit of a can
of worms. In particular, it makes the license harder to work with in the
original jurisdiction and working out kinks in a new jurisdiction can be
really a lot of work.
Be prepared to have not just one Chinese lawyer review it, but several. And
include somebody who is current on the state of copyright law in your
intended jurisdiction.
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Katz <An...@moorcrofts.com>
wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a
> Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be
> getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back
> any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I
> realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one
> would be a good starting point.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Katz
> Moorcrofts LLP
>
>
>
回复：Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Liu Ted <te...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
Hi Andrew, There is a Chinese article introducing, not translating, the Apache Software License 2.0 in the open source governance document section on our community website: http://www.kaiyuanshe.cn/article/5.mhtml.
This article, among other OSS licenses introduction articles on our website which we worked with OSS-Watch, may give your lawyer a place to start with.
Ted LiuChairman of KAIYUANSHE (A ground-up open source alliance in China)
2018 年 3 月 1 日周四 4:41，Andrew Katz<An...@moorcrofts.com> 写道： Hi All
Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one would be a good starting point.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
Andrew Katz
Moorcrofts LLP
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Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
thanks TG!
Regards,
Tommaso
Il giorno gio 1 mar 2018 alle ore 19:25 Thamme Gowda <tg...@gmail.com> ha
scritto:
> Tommaso,
>
> Re: datasets. You probably know these:
>
> - Chinese - English pair was newly added to WMT2017 [1]
> - More from Chinese WMT, see FTP details at the bottom of the page [2].
> - the Open parallel corpus also has some resources [3]
>
> Cheers,
> TG
>
> [1] - http://www.statmt.org/wmt17/
> [2] - http://nlp.nju.edu.cn/cwmt-wmt/
> [3] - http://opus.nlpl.eu/
>
> --
> *Thamme Gowda *
> @thammegowda <https://twitter.com/thammegowda> | https://isi.edu/~tg
> ~Sent via somebody's Webmail server
>
> 2018-02-28 23:17 GMT-08:00 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>:
>
> > yes, I am looking into some corpora for building language packs for En ->
> > Chinese and Chinese -> En so that could be a nice benchmark once I manage
> > to do that.
> > If anyone else is willing to join let me know.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tommaso
> >
> >
> > Il giorno mer 28 feb 2018 alle ore 21:49 Mattmann, Chris A (1761) <
> > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hmmm use case?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > > From: Andrew Katz <Andrew.Katz@moorcrofts.com<mailto:
> > > Andrew.Katz@moorcrofts.com>>
> > > Date: February 28, 2018 at 12:35:00 PM PST
> > > To: "dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>" <
> > > dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>>
> > > Cc: Nick Burch <ni...@apache.org>>
> > > Subject: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
> > > Reply-To: <de...@community.apache.org>>
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a
> > > Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be
> > > getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed
> back
> > > any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I
> > > realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial
> > one
> > > would be a good starting point.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > Andrew Katz
> > > Moorcrofts LLP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Thamme Gowda <tg...@gmail.com>.
Tommaso,
Re: datasets. You probably know these:
- Chinese - English pair was newly added to WMT2017 [1]
- More from Chinese WMT, see FTP details at the bottom of the page [2].
- the Open parallel corpus also has some resources [3]
Cheers,
TG
[1] - http://www.statmt.org/wmt17/
[2] - http://nlp.nju.edu.cn/cwmt-wmt/
[3] - http://opus.nlpl.eu/
--
*Thamme Gowda *
@thammegowda <https://twitter.com/thammegowda> | https://isi.edu/~tg
~Sent via somebody's Webmail server
2018-02-28 23:17 GMT-08:00 Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>:
> yes, I am looking into some corpora for building language packs for En ->
> Chinese and Chinese -> En so that could be a nice benchmark once I manage
> to do that.
> If anyone else is willing to join let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Tommaso
>
>
> Il giorno mer 28 feb 2018 alle ore 21:49 Mattmann, Chris A (1761) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> ha scritto:
>
> > Hmmm use case?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Andrew Katz <Andrew.Katz@moorcrofts.com<mailto:
> > Andrew.Katz@moorcrofts.com>>
> > Date: February 28, 2018 at 12:35:00 PM PST
> > To: "dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>" <
> > dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>>
> > Cc: Nick Burch <ni...@apache.org>>
> > Subject: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
> > Reply-To: <de...@community.apache.org>>
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a
> > Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be
> > getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back
> > any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I
> > realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial
> one
> > would be a good starting point.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Andrew Katz
> > Moorcrofts LLP
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
yes, I am looking into some corpora for building language packs for En ->
Chinese and Chinese -> En so that could be a nice benchmark once I manage
to do that.
If anyone else is willing to join let me know.
Regards,
Tommaso
Il giorno mer 28 feb 2018 alle ore 21:49 Mattmann, Chris A (1761) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> ha scritto:
> Hmmm use case?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Andrew Katz <Andrew.Katz@moorcrofts.com<mailto:
> Andrew.Katz@moorcrofts.com>>
> Date: February 28, 2018 at 12:35:00 PM PST
> To: "dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>" <
> dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>>
> Cc: Nick Burch <ni...@apache.org>>
> Subject: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
> Reply-To: <de...@community.apache.org>>
>
> Hi All
>
> Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a
> Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be
> getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back
> any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I
> realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one
> would be a good starting point.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Katz
> Moorcrofts LLP
>
>
>
Fwd: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (1761)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hmmm use case?
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Andrew Katz <An...@moorcrofts.com>>
Date: February 28, 2018 at 12:35:00 PM PST
To: "dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>" <de...@community.apache.org>>
Cc: Nick Burch <ni...@apache.org>>
Subject: Chinese translation of Apache license 2.0
Reply-To: <de...@community.apache.org>>
Hi All
Would some nice person be kind enough to point me in the direction of a Chinese (simplified) translation of the Apache License 2.0? I will be getting this reviewed by a Chinese lawyer, so would be happy to feed back any comments they may have about translation discrepancies (if any). I realise that there aren’t any official translations, but an unofficial one would be a good starting point.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
Andrew Katz
Moorcrofts LLP