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Posted to users@zeppelin.apache.org by kevin giroux <gi...@gmail.com> on 2016/11/14 14:09:37 UTC
Embedded Mode for interpreter
Hello,
I would like some information about the binding of each interpreter. I read
the documentation,
http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/interpreters.html#interpreter-binding-mode
<https://webmail.one.grp/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=ciA3Yte_cWFh3_hvboFd8T4RBahq4L80puhP8B8xNtLkkz1clgzUCGgAdAB0AHAAOgAvAC8AegBlAHAAcABlAGwAaQBuAC4AYQBwAGEAYwBoAGUALgBvAHIAZwAvAGQAbwBjAHMALwBsAGEAdABlAHMAdAAvAG0AYQBuAHUAYQBsAC8AaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAHMALgBoAHQAbQBsACMAaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAC0AYgBpAG4AZABpAG4AZwAtAG0AbwBkAGUA&URL=http%3a%2f%2fzeppelin.apache.org%2fdocs%2flatest%2fmanual%2finterpreters.html%23interpreter-binding-mode>,
but i would like to know if there is a "embedded mode" in progress.
This mode will work :
-> This mode will allow to run the interpreter in the same JVM that
Zeppelin run.
For the moment, each interpreter (that need a JVM), run on a different JVM.
-> If will be powerfull, if we can reduce the number of JVM for example
Zeppelin and 1 Interpreter. (that allow users to run Zeppelin on very smart
device that doesn't have a lot of memory)
What do you think about this ?
Sincerely in advance for the future reply,
Kevin Giroux
--
Kévin Giroux
Re: Embedded Mode for interpreter
Posted by moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org>.
It was selectable option in the before, but Zeppelin community discussed
and decided to hide that option while it requires user's understanding how
zeppelin works internally. We wanted keep option really simple.
But since then, many other option as been added, and now interpreter option
is not easy to understand as a user IMO.
Once https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZEPPELIN-1698 is implemented, i
think we can think about bringing more interpreter option with minimum
complexity of usage.
Thanks,
moon
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 12:37 AM kevin giroux <gi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> What about giving *freedom* to users, and then, exposing again such an
> embedded mode to users ?
>
> Well, not all users have the same needs, or want to run Zeppelin the same
> way. On my side, being able to use such a 'embedded' mode will be useful.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Le mer. 16 nov. 2016 à 23:45, moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> Zeppelin actually does have embedded mode that runs Interpreter in the
> same JVM that Zeppelin run. This feature does not exposed to user, but it
> can be controlled by InterpreterOption.remote field.
>
> https://github.com/apache/zeppelin/blob/master/zeppelin-interpreter/src/main/java/org/apache/zeppelin/interpreter/InterpreterOption.java#L30
>
> It was the only available mode in the beginning. Once Zeppelin has got
> remote interpreter with separate JVM, this mode became invisible from user
> and only used for unittest.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> moon
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:09 AM kevin giroux <gi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like some information about the binding of each interpreter. I
> read the documentation,
> http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/interpreters.html#interpreter-binding-mode
> <https://webmail.one.grp/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=ciA3Yte_cWFh3_hvboFd8T4RBahq4L80puhP8B8xNtLkkz1clgzUCGgAdAB0AHAAOgAvAC8AegBlAHAAcABlAGwAaQBuAC4AYQBwAGEAYwBoAGUALgBvAHIAZwAvAGQAbwBjAHMALwBsAGEAdABlAHMAdAAvAG0AYQBuAHUAYQBsAC8AaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAHMALgBoAHQAbQBsACMAaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAC0AYgBpAG4AZABpAG4AZwAtAG0AbwBkAGUA&URL=http%3a%2f%2fzeppelin.apache.org%2fdocs%2flatest%2fmanual%2finterpreters.html%23interpreter-binding-mode>,
> but i would like to know if there is a "embedded mode" in progress.
> This mode will work :
> -> This mode will allow to run the interpreter in the same JVM that
> Zeppelin run.
> For the moment, each interpreter (that need a JVM), run on a different JVM.
> -> If will be powerfull, if we can reduce the number of JVM for example
> Zeppelin and 1 Interpreter. (that allow users to run Zeppelin on very smart
> device that doesn't have a lot of memory)
>
> What do you think about this ?
>
> Sincerely in advance for the future reply,
> Kevin Giroux
>
>
> --
> Kévin Giroux
>
> --
> Kévin Giroux
>
Re: Embedded Mode for interpreter
Posted by kevin giroux <gi...@gmail.com>.
What about giving *freedom* to users, and then, exposing again such an
embedded mode to users ?
Well, not all users have the same needs, or want to run Zeppelin the same
way. On my side, being able to use such a 'embedded' mode will be useful.
Thanks.
Le mer. 16 nov. 2016 à 23:45, moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org> a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Zeppelin actually does have embedded mode that runs Interpreter in the
> same JVM that Zeppelin run. This feature does not exposed to user, but it
> can be controlled by InterpreterOption.remote field.
>
> https://github.com/apache/zeppelin/blob/master/zeppelin-interpreter/src/main/java/org/apache/zeppelin/interpreter/InterpreterOption.java#L30
>
> It was the only available mode in the beginning. Once Zeppelin has got
> remote interpreter with separate JVM, this mode became invisible from user
> and only used for unittest.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Thanks,
> moon
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:09 AM kevin giroux <gi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like some information about the binding of each interpreter. I
> read the documentation,
> http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/interpreters.html#interpreter-binding-mode
> <https://webmail.one.grp/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=ciA3Yte_cWFh3_hvboFd8T4RBahq4L80puhP8B8xNtLkkz1clgzUCGgAdAB0AHAAOgAvAC8AegBlAHAAcABlAGwAaQBuAC4AYQBwAGEAYwBoAGUALgBvAHIAZwAvAGQAbwBjAHMALwBsAGEAdABlAHMAdAAvAG0AYQBuAHUAYQBsAC8AaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAHMALgBoAHQAbQBsACMAaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAC0AYgBpAG4AZABpAG4AZwAtAG0AbwBkAGUA&URL=http%3a%2f%2fzeppelin.apache.org%2fdocs%2flatest%2fmanual%2finterpreters.html%23interpreter-binding-mode>,
> but i would like to know if there is a "embedded mode" in progress.
> This mode will work :
> -> This mode will allow to run the interpreter in the same JVM that
> Zeppelin run.
> For the moment, each interpreter (that need a JVM), run on a different JVM.
> -> If will be powerfull, if we can reduce the number of JVM for example
> Zeppelin and 1 Interpreter. (that allow users to run Zeppelin on very smart
> device that doesn't have a lot of memory)
>
> What do you think about this ?
>
> Sincerely in advance for the future reply,
> Kevin Giroux
>
>
> --
> Kévin Giroux
>
> --
Kévin Giroux
Re: Embedded Mode for interpreter
Posted by moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Zeppelin actually does have embedded mode that runs Interpreter in the same
JVM that Zeppelin run. This feature does not exposed to user, but it can be
controlled by InterpreterOption.remote field.
https://github.com/apache/zeppelin/blob/master/zeppelin-interpreter/src/main/java/org/apache/zeppelin/interpreter/InterpreterOption.java#L30
It was the only available mode in the beginning. Once Zeppelin has got
remote interpreter with separate JVM, this mode became invisible from user
and only used for unittest.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
moon
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:09 AM kevin giroux <gi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like some information about the binding of each interpreter. I
> read the documentation,
> http://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/interpreters.html#interpreter-binding-mode
> <https://webmail.one.grp/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=ciA3Yte_cWFh3_hvboFd8T4RBahq4L80puhP8B8xNtLkkz1clgzUCGgAdAB0AHAAOgAvAC8AegBlAHAAcABlAGwAaQBuAC4AYQBwAGEAYwBoAGUALgBvAHIAZwAvAGQAbwBjAHMALwBsAGEAdABlAHMAdAAvAG0AYQBuAHUAYQBsAC8AaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAHMALgBoAHQAbQBsACMAaQBuAHQAZQByAHAAcgBlAHQAZQByAC0AYgBpAG4AZABpAG4AZwAtAG0AbwBkAGUA&URL=http%3a%2f%2fzeppelin.apache.org%2fdocs%2flatest%2fmanual%2finterpreters.html%23interpreter-binding-mode>,
> but i would like to know if there is a "embedded mode" in progress.
> This mode will work :
> -> This mode will allow to run the interpreter in the same JVM that
> Zeppelin run.
> For the moment, each interpreter (that need a JVM), run on a different JVM.
> -> If will be powerfull, if we can reduce the number of JVM for example
> Zeppelin and 1 Interpreter. (that allow users to run Zeppelin on very smart
> device that doesn't have a lot of memory)
>
> What do you think about this ?
>
> Sincerely in advance for the future reply,
> Kevin Giroux
>
>
> --
> Kévin Giroux
>