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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Guenter Mehle <gu...@googlemail.com> on 2012/01/17 13:51:08 UTC

www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

Hi,

does the forum www.openoffice-forum.de have to be in the list?
This forum spreads much Polish Spam.
http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html

Best regards, Guenter

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 22:33 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2012/1/17, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
> >
> >> Two things -
> >>
> >> First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.
> >>
> >> Remove links for:
> >> www.ooo-portal.de
> >> www.openoffice-forum.de
> >> and
> >> forum.sun.com
> >>
> >
> > I don't think we should remove links merely because they have some
> > spam in their forums.  Spam is a problem we all need to deal with.
> 
> There is the suspicion that the owner of this forum
> a personal interest in the Spam has.
> I would not like to say more to it.
> 
> In respectable forums one deletes Spam. In this forum not,
> anyhow not going around.
> It is not OK that Spam is only deleted after one, two, three or more weeks.
> 
> 
> If the owner of this forum would have volunteers/admins
> these could delete the Spam.
> These do not cost anything
> 
> but he would not like to have volunteers / admins.
> If the owner of this forum would want., he could get it.
> 
Hi Guenter, Rob, et al

Well, in the case of the first site:
www.ooo-portal.de

I think this should be removed not for any spam but because the operator
removed, TTBOMK, the forum with he opened the new site lo-portal.de, so
really there is no good reason to list it on this page any longer.

In the case of the second listed site:
www.openoffice-forum.de

I would think this site should be removed for somewhat the same reason.
The owners have since opened a LibreOffice specific site and I kind of
think this site is being left behind - Guenter is not the first person
to bring up problems at the site, only the first one to do so on this
list. 

The third site:
forum.sun.com - well that is just gone..so easy call there :)

Anyway, just my opinion and I would certainly defer to folks in German
speaking lands on what finally to do.

Best wishes,

//drew



Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

Posted by Guenter Mehle <gu...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

2012/1/17, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
>
>> Two things -
>>
>> First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.
>>
>> Remove links for:
>> www.ooo-portal.de
>> www.openoffice-forum.de
>> and
>> forum.sun.com
>>
>
> I don't think we should remove links merely because they have some
> spam in their forums.  Spam is a problem we all need to deal with.

There is the suspicion that the owner of this forum
a personal interest in the Spam has.
I would not like to say more to it.

In respectable forums one deletes Spam. In this forum not,
anyhow not going around.
It is not OK that Spam is only deleted after one, two, three or more weeks.


If the owner of this forum would have volunteers/admins
these could delete the Spam.
These do not cost anything

but he would not like to have volunteers / admins.
If the owner of this forum would want., he could get it.

Guenter

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM, drew <dr...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> does the forum www.openoffice-forum.de have to be in the list?
>> This forum spreads much Polish Spam.
>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html
>>
>
> Halo Guenter
>
> Two things -
>
> First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.
>
> Remove links for:
> www.ooo-portal.de
> www.openoffice-forum.de
> and
> forum.sun.com
>

I don't think we should remove links merely because they have some
spam in their forums.  Spam is a problem we all need to deal with.
The question should not be whether they have spam, but whether they
are providing a service for our users.  From what I can see,
openoffice-forum.de had a recent burst of spam, but they've also had
valid and useful discussions related to OpenOffice support.  So I
would not support removing them.

Remember, if we want to make spam a criterion for removing links to a
service, then we'd need to remove our own Bugzilla bugtracking
instance, for hosting over 1000 spam attachments:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aopenoffice.org+viagra


> The first entry for XNIG is malformed, needs update or removal.
>
> The newsgroups will need up dating also.
>
> Not sure who is going to handle the DE pages, is there already a hand up
> for that?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> //drew
>
>
>

Re: www.openoffice-forum.de <- Spam-Forum

Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 13:51 +0100, Guenter Mehle wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> does the forum www.openoffice-forum.de have to be in the list?
> This forum spreads much Polish Spam.
> http://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html
> 

Halo Guenter

Two things - 

First, I would think there are multiple edits for that page.

Remove links for:
www.ooo-portal.de
www.openoffice-forum.de
and
forum.sun.com 

The first entry for XNIG is malformed, needs update or removal.

The newsgroups will need up dating also.

Not sure who is going to handle the DE pages, is there already a hand up
for that?

Best wishes,

//drew