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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Ben Hyde <bh...@gensym.com> on 1998/03/22 19:46:51 UTC

www.apache.org.com

One can't guard against all the risks the paranoid mind can
invent, but one does have to guard against the dangers
actually demonstrated to occur nearby.

So, I needed to guard against naughty DNS.  That of course
broke the build for a few days.

  > nslookup dev.apache.org. 1.0.2.6
  ...
  Address:  204.62.130.147
  > nslookup 204.62.130.147 1.0.2.6
  ...
  Name:    taz.hyperreal.org
  Address:  204.62.130.147

I fixed my fetch script to use that to be sure things seem ok.


But on the machine I actually run the script on it immediately
complained:

   > rsh tha nslookup dev.apache.org 1.0.2.6
   ...
   Address:  209.54.94.60
   > nslookup 209.54.94.60 1.0.2.6
   ...
   Name:    okdirect.com
   Address:  209.54.94.60

Which I didn't notice for a few days.

I failed to realize that I should assume the worse:
   > nslookup my.pid.is.a.float.dev.apache.org.com 1.0.2.6
   ...
   Address:  209.54.94.60

I.e. nslookup is very different between sunos and solarius.

Why bother with URI, just use huge virtual hosts.

  - ben

Re: www.apache.org.com

Posted by Marc Slemko <ma...@worldgate.com>.
They registered org.com.  They put a wildcard A record or something in.
No hijacking, just a broken resolver or resolver config appending .com to
domains it tries to resolve.

I was sure that, in the past, most <tld>.<tld> domains were reserved, but
they sure don't appear to be now.

On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Martin Kraemer wrote:

> This kind of DNS highjacking is absolutely incredible. How can it be
> legal to register a domain
>     www.apache.org.com   (_and_ other *.apache.org.com domains)
> 
> when there is an officially registered .org domain
>     www.apache.org
> ? I am speechless at this kind of wild-west-highjacking.
> Ben is right: nslookup www.apache.org.com really exists, and leads
> to..:
>     ProDomains has partnered with innovative companies to provide a
>     variety of internet solutions.
> 
>     Martin
> --who hopes that there are ways to stop similar registrations in the
> future.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 01:46:51PM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote:
> > 
> > One can't guard against all the risks the paranoid mind can
> > invent, but one does have to guard against the dangers
> > actually demonstrated to occur nearby.
> > 
> > So, I needed to guard against naughty DNS.  That of course
> > broke the build for a few days.
> > 
> >   > nslookup dev.apache.org. 1.0.2.6
> >   ...
> >   Address:  204.62.130.147
> >   > nslookup 204.62.130.147 1.0.2.6
> >   ...
> >   Name:    taz.hyperreal.org
> >   Address:  204.62.130.147
> > 
> > I fixed my fetch script to use that to be sure things seem ok.
> > 
> > 
> > But on the machine I actually run the script on it immediately
> > complained:
> > 
> >    > rsh tha nslookup dev.apache.org 1.0.2.6
> >    ...
> >    Address:  209.54.94.60
> >    > nslookup 209.54.94.60 1.0.2.6
> >    ...
> >    Name:    okdirect.com
> >    Address:  209.54.94.60
> > 
> > Which I didn't notice for a few days.
> > 
> > I failed to realize that I should assume the worse:
> >    > nslookup my.pid.is.a.float.dev.apache.org.com 1.0.2.6
> >    ...
> >    Address:  209.54.94.60
> > 
> > I.e. nslookup is very different between sunos and solarius.
> > 
> > Why bother with URI, just use huge virtual hosts.
> > 
> >   - ben
> --
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Re: www.apache.org.com

Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
This kind of DNS highjacking is absolutely incredible. How can it be
legal to register a domain
    www.apache.org.com   (_and_ other *.apache.org.com domains)

when there is an officially registered .org domain
    www.apache.org
? I am speechless at this kind of wild-west-highjacking.
Ben is right: nslookup www.apache.org.com really exists, and leads
to..:
    ProDomains has partnered with innovative companies to provide a
    variety of internet solutions.

    Martin
--who hopes that there are ways to stop similar registrations in the
future.

On Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 01:46:51PM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote:
> 
> One can't guard against all the risks the paranoid mind can
> invent, but one does have to guard against the dangers
> actually demonstrated to occur nearby.
> 
> So, I needed to guard against naughty DNS.  That of course
> broke the build for a few days.
> 
>   > nslookup dev.apache.org. 1.0.2.6
>   ...
>   Address:  204.62.130.147
>   > nslookup 204.62.130.147 1.0.2.6
>   ...
>   Name:    taz.hyperreal.org
>   Address:  204.62.130.147
> 
> I fixed my fetch script to use that to be sure things seem ok.
> 
> 
> But on the machine I actually run the script on it immediately
> complained:
> 
>    > rsh tha nslookup dev.apache.org 1.0.2.6
>    ...
>    Address:  209.54.94.60
>    > nslookup 209.54.94.60 1.0.2.6
>    ...
>    Name:    okdirect.com
>    Address:  209.54.94.60
> 
> Which I didn't notice for a few days.
> 
> I failed to realize that I should assume the worse:
>    > nslookup my.pid.is.a.float.dev.apache.org.com 1.0.2.6
>    ...
>    Address:  209.54.94.60
> 
> I.e. nslookup is very different between sunos and solarius.
> 
> Why bother with URI, just use huge virtual hosts.
> 
>   - ben
--
| S I E M E N S |  <Ma...@mch.sni.de>  |      Siemens Nixdorf
| ------------- |   Voice: +49-89-636-46021     |  Informationssysteme AG
| N I X D O R F |   FAX:   +49-89-636-44994     |   81730 Munich, Germany
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~My opinions only, of course; pgp key available on request