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Posted to xml-commons-dev@xerces.apache.org by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com> on 2006/03/29 00:45:11 UTC
[PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Hi everyone,
The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for a
Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. JAXP 1.4 is a
minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the addition
of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the
javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with transformers and
validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP 1.4 to
complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects (Axis2,
XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX.
With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that the
main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a branch be
created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on the
main trunk).
I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed with
XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache mirror
sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we could
use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source and
binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it would
appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons External.
What do folks think?
Thanks.
[1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/
[2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/
[3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
[4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/
[5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Never did resolve the issues with the XMLBeans jar, however in the time
since I started this thread (very long ago) the Geronimo folks wrote their
own copy of the StAX API [1][2] from scratch. If there are no objections (
lazy consensus) I plan to include these source files on the trunk and
create a branch for maintaining the 1.3 APIs on Friday.
Thanks.
[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/geronimo/specs/tags/geronimo-stax-api_1.0_spec-1.0.1
/
[2] http://marc.info/?l=geronimo-dev&m=119844086803368&w=2
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Michael Glavassevich/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA wrote on 03/29/2006 02:29:36 PM:
> Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote on 03/29/2006 02:08:32 AM:
>
> > (cc'ing dev@xmlbeans.apache.org)
> >
> > That's ok with me. The only thing bothering me is the XMLBeans' JAR
file
> > with the API sources. It does not contain any indication whether this
is
> > a clean-room reconstruction of the API sources based on the
> > specification or if they have been taken from the java.net site and
> > modified. The files there seem to be distributed under the CDDL [1]
> > which is a Category B license (binary only). The sources at java.net
[2]
> > have Bea copyrights all over the place. Furthermore, I can't find the
> > StAX API sources anywhere in XMLBeans' repository. The individual files
> > in the API JAR do not contain the Apache license header as would be
> > required by any source file published by the ASF (due to the current
> > policy). The good thing on the other side is that Bea seems to be the
> > driving force behind XMLBeans and could officially donate the API
> > sources to the ASF for inclusion into XML Commons Externals. And Cliff
> > is XMLBeans' PMC chair. :-) So, before the API sources can be included
> > in XML Commons Externals a clarification will be necessary IMO.
>
> I agree.
>
> > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> > sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/license.txt?rev=1.
> > 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> > sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/stream/StreamFilter.java?rev=1.
> > 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> >
> > On 29.03.2006 00:45:11 Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for a
> > > Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. JAXP 1.4
> is a
> > > minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the
> addition
> > > of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the
> > > javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with transformers
> and
> > > validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP 1.4
> to
> > > complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects
> (Axis2,
> > > XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX.
> > >
> > > With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that
> the
> > > main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a
> branch be
> > > created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on
the
>
> > > main trunk).
> > >
> > > I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed
with
>
> > > XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache
mirror
>
> > > sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we
> could
> > > use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source and
> > > binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it
would
>
> > > appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons
> External.
> > > What do folks think?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/
> > > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/
> > > [3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
> > > [4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/
> > > [5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a
> > >
> > > Michael Glavassevich
> > > XML Parser Development
> > > IBM Toronto Lab
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote on 03/29/2006 02:08:32 AM:
> (cc'ing dev@xmlbeans.apache.org)
>
> That's ok with me. The only thing bothering me is the XMLBeans' JAR file
> with the API sources. It does not contain any indication whether this is
> a clean-room reconstruction of the API sources based on the
> specification or if they have been taken from the java.net site and
> modified. The files there seem to be distributed under the CDDL [1]
> which is a Category B license (binary only). The sources at java.net [2]
> have Bea copyrights all over the place. Furthermore, I can't find the
> StAX API sources anywhere in XMLBeans' repository. The individual files
> in the API JAR do not contain the Apache license header as would be
> required by any source file published by the ASF (due to the current
> policy). The good thing on the other side is that Bea seems to be the
> driving force behind XMLBeans and could officially donate the API
> sources to the ASF for inclusion into XML Commons Externals. And Cliff
> is XMLBeans' PMC chair. :-) So, before the API sources can be included
> in XML Commons Externals a clarification will be necessary IMO.
I agree.
> [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/license.txt?rev=1.
> 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/stream/StreamFilter.java?rev=1.
> 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>
> On 29.03.2006 00:45:11 Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for a
> > Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. JAXP 1.4
is a
> > minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the
addition
> > of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the
> > javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with transformers
and
> > validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP 1.4
to
> > complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects
(Axis2,
> > XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX.
> >
> > With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that
the
> > main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a
branch be
> > created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on the
> > main trunk).
> >
> > I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed with
> > XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache mirror
> > sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we
could
> > use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source and
> > binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it would
> > appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons
External.
> > What do folks think?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/
> > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/
> > [3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
> > [4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/
> > [5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Parser Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote on 03/29/2006 02:08:32 AM:
> (cc'ing dev@xmlbeans.apache.org)
>
> That's ok with me. The only thing bothering me is the XMLBeans' JAR file
> with the API sources. It does not contain any indication whether this is
> a clean-room reconstruction of the API sources based on the
> specification or if they have been taken from the java.net site and
> modified. The files there seem to be distributed under the CDDL [1]
> which is a Category B license (binary only). The sources at java.net [2]
> have Bea copyrights all over the place. Furthermore, I can't find the
> StAX API sources anywhere in XMLBeans' repository. The individual files
> in the API JAR do not contain the Apache license header as would be
> required by any source file published by the ASF (due to the current
> policy). The good thing on the other side is that Bea seems to be the
> driving force behind XMLBeans and could officially donate the API
> sources to the ASF for inclusion into XML Commons Externals. And Cliff
> is XMLBeans' PMC chair. :-) So, before the API sources can be included
> in XML Commons Externals a clarification will be necessary IMO.
I agree.
> [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/license.txt?rev=1.
> 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/stream/StreamFilter.java?rev=1.
> 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
>
> On 29.03.2006 00:45:11 Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for a
> > Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. JAXP 1.4
is a
> > minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the
addition
> > of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the
> > javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with transformers
and
> > validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP 1.4
to
> > complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects
(Axis2,
> > XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX.
> >
> > With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that
the
> > main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a
branch be
> > created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on the
> > main trunk).
> >
> > I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed with
> > XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache mirror
> > sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we
could
> > use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source and
> > binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it would
> > appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons
External.
> > What do folks think?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/
> > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/
> > [3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
> > [4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/
> > [5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Parser Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
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Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
(cc'ing dev@xmlbeans.apache.org)
That's ok with me. The only thing bothering me is the XMLBeans' JAR file
with the API sources. It does not contain any indication whether this is
a clean-room reconstruction of the API sources based on the
specification or if they have been taken from the java.net site and
modified. The files there seem to be distributed under the CDDL [1]
which is a Category B license (binary only). The sources at java.net [2]
have Bea copyrights all over the place. Furthermore, I can't find the
StAX API sources anywhere in XMLBeans' repository. The individual files
in the API JAR do not contain the Apache license header as would be
required by any source file published by the ASF (due to the current
policy). The good thing on the other side is that Bea seems to be the
driving force behind XMLBeans and could officially donate the API
sources to the ASF for inclusion into XML Commons Externals. And Cliff
is XMLBeans' PMC chair. :-) So, before the API sources can be included
in XML Commons Externals a clarification will be necessary IMO.
[1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/license.txt?rev=1.1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
[2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/stream/StreamFilter.java?rev=1.1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
On 29.03.2006 00:45:11 Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for a
> Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. JAXP 1.4 is a
> minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the addition
> of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the
> javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with transformers and
> validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP 1.4 to
> complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects (Axis2,
> XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX.
>
> With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that the
> main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a branch be
> created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on the
> main trunk).
>
> I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed with
> XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache mirror
> sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we could
> use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source and
> binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it would
> appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons External.
> What do folks think?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/
> [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/
> [3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
> [4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/
> [5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Jeremias Maerki
Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi Henry,
Henry Zongaro/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA wrote on 03/31/2006 03:46:19 PM:
> Hi, Michael.
>
> Michael Glavassevich/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA wrote on 2006-03-28 05:45:11 PM:
> > With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that
the
> > main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a
branch
> be
> > created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on the
> > main trunk).
>
> I probably ought to know the answer to this, but are there any
> changes to APIs that would break the Xalan-J GUMP build - for instance,
> new abstract methods on classes in the transform or xpath packages that
> Xalan-J's implementation classes fail to implement?
No. The only (signature) changes to existing classes in the
transform/xpath packages are the addition of static newInstance(String,
ClassLoader) methods to TransformerFactory and XPathFactory.
newInstance(String, ClassLoader) methods were also added to
DocumentBuilderFactory, SAXParserFactory, SchemaFactory and
DatatypeFactory.
> Thanks,
>
> Henry
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Henry Zongaro Xalan development
> IBM SWS Toronto Lab T/L 969-6044; Phone +1 905 413-6044
> mailto:zongaro@ca.ibm.com
Thanks.
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Posted by Henry Zongaro <zo...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi, Michael.
Michael Glavassevich/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA wrote on 2006-03-28 05:45:11 PM:
> With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that the
> main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a branch
be
> created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on the
> main trunk).
I probably ought to know the answer to this, but are there any
changes to APIs that would break the Xalan-J GUMP build - for instance,
new abstract methods on classes in the transform or xpath packages that
Xalan-J's implementation classes fail to implement?
Thanks,
Henry
------------------------------------------------------------------
Henry Zongaro Xalan development
IBM SWS Toronto Lab T/L 969-6044; Phone +1 905 413-6044
mailto:zongaro@ca.ibm.com