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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by Dan <da...@mcenter.com> on 2005/02/28 22:35:31 UTC
Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Classpath problem. Really frustrating.
I'm trying to duplicate a setup on system A to system B and can't get it
working. My problem is when I access the JSP page, Tomcat complains of a
ClassNotFound exception. This happens with all of my custom classes. If I
create a simple JSP page with no custom classes the JSP compiles fine.
When I manually execute the class via "java com.xxx.MyClass" it responds
appropriately (my environment's CLASSPATH includes the custom library paths).
My custom classes live outside of the Tomcat directory (see below) because
I use these classes in other non-web based applications, so they need to be
available system wide.
I have melted my brain today trying to figure out why system A works with
this configuration but system B gives me the ClassNotFound exception. I
have even copied my entire Tomcat directory from system A to system B with
no change. I thought perhaps I was starting the service with additional
parameters but I don't see any in the registry settings.
Does anyone have an educated guess as to why I can't get this thing to work
the way it's working on the other system and/or how I can get this working
with my custom classes OUTSIDE of Tomcat.
Win2K SP4
Tomcat v5.0.27 as NT Service
e:\java\tomcat
e:\java\sdk (JDK 1.4.2)
e:\java\library\custom\ (custom libraries)
e:\java\library\basic (libraries from other sources)
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Re: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
Posted by Jason Bainbridge <jb...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:51:18 -0600, Randy Paries
<ra...@unitnet.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have the unfortunate opportunity of having to set up tomcat on windoze
> (sorry I am a linux bigot)
>
> I have this servlet that has to run a windows program. (that works fine)
>
> I have to create a directory on a NFS mount.
>From memory no matter what you try a mapped drive won't work but I
believe if you use the UNC name ie. \\Server\Share and then run Tomcat
under an account that has Network privileges and access to that share
so LocalSystem won't be good enough.
Regards,
--
Jason Bainbridge
http://kde.org - webmaster@kde.org
Personal Site - http://jasonbainbridge.com
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
Well, not to be "rude", but your design choice is IMHO, poor. Build
tools are available and designed to handle version control -- which is
what I read as the reason for your reluctance to include the classes
directly in the webapp. Every few months, I see someone come on the
list asking what you are asking and the advice is always the same: Don't
do it that way.
Good luck in your efforts. Just don't expect a lot of help on this.
--David
Dan wrote:
> Do people read anymore?
>
> As previously stated in the original post, these classes need to be
> available to other non-web, non TomCat applications. I do not want to
> have to maintain two different repositories. Also as previously
> stated I have the desired configuration running on another box but I
> cannot duplicate the setup on this box.
>
> If your only advice is to move them into TomCat, then please don't
> even bother replying.
>
>
> At 08:21 AM 3/1/2005, David wrote:
>
>> Why do you want your classes outside of Tomcat? Copy the classes to
>> your project when you build and eliminate the dependency. Or better
>> yet, use a build environment like Ant to do the copying for you. As
>> a bonus, it'll catch errors before you get to production and the
>> webapp will be more portable.
>>
>> --David
>>
>> Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Classpath problem. Really frustrating.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to duplicate a setup on system A to system B and can't
>>> get it working. My problem is when I access the JSP page, Tomcat
>>> complains of a ClassNotFound exception. This happens with all of my
>>> custom classes. If I create a simple JSP page with no custom
>>> classes the JSP compiles fine.
>>>
>>> When I manually execute the class via "java com.xxx.MyClass" it
>>> responds appropriately (my environment's CLASSPATH includes the
>>> custom library paths).
>>>
>>> My custom classes live outside of the Tomcat directory (see below)
>>> because I use these classes in other non-web based applications, so
>>> they need to be available system wide.
>>>
>>> I have melted my brain today trying to figure out why system A works
>>> with this configuration but system B gives me the ClassNotFound
>>> exception. I have even copied my entire Tomcat directory from
>>> system A to system B with no change. I thought perhaps I was
>>> starting the service with additional parameters but I don't see any
>>> in the registry settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have an educated guess as to why I can't get this thing
>>> to work the way it's working on the other system and/or how I can
>>> get this working with my custom classes OUTSIDE of Tomcat.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Win2K SP4
>>> Tomcat v5.0.27 as NT Service
>>>
>>> e:\java\tomcat
>>> e:\java\sdk (JDK 1.4.2)
>>> e:\java\library\custom\ (custom libraries)
>>> e:\java\library\basic (libraries from other sources)
>>
>
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by Dan <da...@mcenter.com>.
You could do it that way but I don't feel that placing "common" resources
in a specific application directory is the proper approach.
For example, if I had shared dlls that are used for Microsoft Office, I
wouldn't place them into the Word application's directory.
At 10:50 AM 3/1/2005, Doug wrote:
>Just a curious question to this, I know Dan has his setup already but is
>there any reason that this could not be set up the other way around? I
>mean that the classes/jars are in the normal spot in Tomcat and the
>outside app accesses them there. The outside app shouldn't care where the
>files reside as long as the path to them is known and this way Tomcat is a
>untouched normal install.
>
>
>Or am I missing something here? I am just trying to learn.
>
>
>>
>>Dan wrote:
>>
>>>Just as soon as I hit send....
>>>
>>>Registry entry.
>>>
>>>HKLM | Software | Apache Software Foundation | Procrun 2.0 | Tomcat5 |
>>>Parameters | Java
>>>
>>>Classpath =
>>>.;e:\java\library\basic;e:\java\library\custom;E:\java\Tomcat\bin\bootstrap.jar
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by Parsons Technical Services <pa...@earthlink.net>.
Just a curious question to this, I know Dan has his setup already but is
there any reason that this could not be set up the other way around? I mean
that the classes/jars are in the normal spot in Tomcat and the outside app
accesses them there. The outside app shouldn't care where the files reside
as long as the path to them is known and this way Tomcat is a untouched
normal install.
Or am I missing something here? I am just trying to learn.
Thanks
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Funk" <fu...@joedog.org>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
> If you happen to change the bootstrap classpath - please do not email the
> list with ClassNotFound issues. ;)
>
> If you really need to access jar's or classes outside of your webapp you
> can either:
> 1) Write your own WebAppClassloader - icky but doable
> 2) Change $CATALINA_HOME/conf/catalina.properties and change either the
> common or shared loader. This is more managable but all webapps will share
> these classes.
>
> Adding your own classes to the system classpath will cause major
> headaches. Adding common libraries to the common or shared classloader
> typically is the least of all evils when you can't place classes inside
> WEB-INF.
>
> -Tim
>
> Dan wrote:
>
>> Just as soon as I hit send....
>>
>> Registry entry.
>>
>> HKLM | Software | Apache Software Foundation | Procrun 2.0 | Tomcat5 |
>> Parameters | Java
>>
>> Classpath =
>> .;e:\java\library\basic;e:\java\library\custom;E:\java\Tomcat\bin\bootstrap.jar
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by Tim Funk <fu...@joedog.org>.
If you happen to change the bootstrap classpath - please do not email the
list with ClassNotFound issues. ;)
If you really need to access jar's or classes outside of your webapp you can
either:
1) Write your own WebAppClassloader - icky but doable
2) Change $CATALINA_HOME/conf/catalina.properties and change either the
common or shared loader. This is more managable but all webapps will share
these classes.
Adding your own classes to the system classpath will cause major headaches.
Adding common libraries to the common or shared classloader typically is the
least of all evils when you can't place classes inside WEB-INF.
-Tim
Dan wrote:
> Just as soon as I hit send....
>
> Registry entry.
>
> HKLM | Software | Apache Software Foundation | Procrun 2.0 | Tomcat5 |
> Parameters | Java
>
> Classpath =
> .;e:\java\library\basic;e:\java\library\custom;E:\java\Tomcat\bin\bootstrap.jar
>
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by Dan <da...@mcenter.com>.
Just as soon as I hit send....
Registry entry.
HKLM | Software | Apache Software Foundation | Procrun 2.0 | Tomcat5 |
Parameters | Java
Classpath =
.;e:\java\library\basic;e:\java\library\custom;E:\java\Tomcat\bin\bootstrap.jar
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by Dan <da...@mcenter.com>.
My apologies for being over the edge, but after pulling my hair out for the
last few days and reading all kinds of web and USENET postings, along with
searching the list archives, I came across all kinds of writings that did
not address the issue of if (and how) this could be done, most just say to
put them in the WEB-INF or the "shared" directories of TomCat.
I know it can be done because that's the way I have my other box setup
now. My "shared" classes are in E:\java\library. My WEB-INF\classes
directory is empty, and TomCat compiles the JSPs fine. But for the life of
me I cannot duplicate this setup on the new box. That's what really makes
this frustrating. I've done a system search for files containing
"library\custom" and nothing relevant shows up. Searching the registry
turns up nothing as well.
The only tidbit that I've come across is that parameter "java.class.path"
is ignored when running as a service, instead "Imagepath" can specify a
classpath. But I don't remember doing this on my other machine, and my
registry entries for the service don't show any additional startup
parameters. I wonder if procrun stores these values someplace else, but if
so it's not stored anyplace within the Tomcat directory since I've copied
the entire Tomcat directory from the "working" box to this box.
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by Dan <da...@mcenter.com>.
Do people read anymore?
As previously stated in the original post, these classes need to be
available to other non-web, non TomCat applications. I do not want to have
to maintain two different repositories. Also as previously stated I have
the desired configuration running on another box but I cannot duplicate the
setup on this box.
If your only advice is to move them into TomCat, then please don't even
bother replying.
At 08:21 AM 3/1/2005, David wrote:
>Why do you want your classes outside of Tomcat? Copy the classes to your
>project when you build and eliminate the dependency. Or better yet, use a
>build environment like Ant to do the copying for you. As a bonus, it'll
>catch errors before you get to production and the webapp will be more portable.
>
>--David
>
>Dan wrote:
>
>>Classpath problem. Really frustrating.
>>
>>I'm trying to duplicate a setup on system A to system B and can't get it
>>working. My problem is when I access the JSP page, Tomcat complains of a
>>ClassNotFound exception. This happens with all of my custom classes. If
>>I create a simple JSP page with no custom classes the JSP compiles fine.
>>
>>When I manually execute the class via "java com.xxx.MyClass" it responds
>>appropriately (my environment's CLASSPATH includes the custom library paths).
>>
>>My custom classes live outside of the Tomcat directory (see below)
>>because I use these classes in other non-web based applications, so they
>>need to be available system wide.
>>
>>I have melted my brain today trying to figure out why system A works with
>>this configuration but system B gives me the ClassNotFound exception. I
>>have even copied my entire Tomcat directory from system A to system B
>>with no change. I thought perhaps I was starting the service with
>>additional parameters but I don't see any in the registry settings.
>>
>>
>>Does anyone have an educated guess as to why I can't get this thing to
>>work the way it's working on the other system and/or how I can get this
>>working with my custom classes OUTSIDE of Tomcat.
>>
>>
>>
>>Win2K SP4
>>Tomcat v5.0.27 as NT Service
>>
>>e:\java\tomcat
>>e:\java\sdk (JDK 1.4.2)
>>e:\java\library\custom\ (custom libraries)
>>e:\java\library\basic (libraries from other sources)
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Re: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
Posted by Parsons Technical Services <pa...@earthlink.net>.
How are you starting Tomcat?
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Paries" <ra...@unitnet.com>
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:57 PM
Subject: RE: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
>I assume the map is ok, since I can run a java app and it works fine, It is
> only when I call it from a servlet it does not
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Curwen [mailto:g_dev9xq@globallyboundless.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 4:15 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
>
> How is the drive mapped? By what logged-in windows user? Is it the same
> user that Tomcat is running as, and are you sure? ;)
>
> Mike Curwen
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Randy Paries [mailto:randy.paries@unitnet.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:51 PM
>> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
>> Subject: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have the unfortunate opportunity of having to set up tomcat on
>> windoze (sorry I am a linux bigot)
>>
>> I have this servlet that has to run a windows program. (that works
>> fine)
>>
>> I have to create a directory on a NFS mount.
>>
>> In my test servlet, I have this snippet of code(see below)
>>
>> If I do /myservlet?&dir=c:/ (is see it ok) If I do
>> /myservlet?&dir=z:/ (z is a mapped nfs mount, it does not see it)
>>
>> Here is the kicker, I wrote a little class that was basically the same
>> but just a normal Java app, and it see z:/ OK
>>
>> Help???
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> ===========================================================
>> //DIR is a param passed in
>>
>> PrintWriter out = null;
>> res.setContentType("text/html");
>> out = new PrintWriter (res.getOutputStream());
>>
>> out.println( "looking for dir "+DIR+"<BR>");
>>
>> File fpath = new File(DIR);
>> out.println("path-->"+fpath.getAbsolutePath());
>> if ( !fpath.exists() ){
>> out.println("Does not exist");
>> }else{
>> out.println("exist!!!!");
>> }
>> out.close();
>>
>> ===========================================================
>>
>>
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RE: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
Posted by Randy Paries <ra...@unitnet.com>.
I assume the map is ok, since I can run a java app and it works fine, It is
only when I call it from a servlet it does not
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Curwen [mailto:g_dev9xq@globallyboundless.com]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 4:15 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
How is the drive mapped? By what logged-in windows user? Is it the same
user that Tomcat is running as, and are you sure? ;)
Mike Curwen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Paries [mailto:randy.paries@unitnet.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:51 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have the unfortunate opportunity of having to set up tomcat on
> windoze (sorry I am a linux bigot)
>
> I have this servlet that has to run a windows program. (that works
> fine)
>
> I have to create a directory on a NFS mount.
>
> In my test servlet, I have this snippet of code(see below)
>
> If I do /myservlet?&dir=c:/ (is see it ok) If I do
> /myservlet?&dir=z:/ (z is a mapped nfs mount, it does not see it)
>
> Here is the kicker, I wrote a little class that was basically the same
> but just a normal Java app, and it see z:/ OK
>
> Help???
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ===========================================================
> //DIR is a param passed in
>
> PrintWriter out = null;
> res.setContentType("text/html");
> out = new PrintWriter (res.getOutputStream());
>
> out.println( "looking for dir "+DIR+"<BR>");
>
> File fpath = new File(DIR);
> out.println("path-->"+fpath.getAbsolutePath());
> if ( !fpath.exists() ){
> out.println("Does not exist");
> }else{
> out.println("exist!!!!");
> }
> out.close();
>
> ===========================================================
>
>
>
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RE: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
Posted by Mike Curwen <g_...@globallyboundless.com>.
How is the drive mapped? By what logged-in windows user? Is it the same
user that Tomcat is running as, and are you sure? ;)
Mike Curwen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Randy Paries [mailto:randy.paries@unitnet.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:51 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have the unfortunate opportunity of having to set up tomcat
> on windoze (sorry I am a linux bigot)
>
> I have this servlet that has to run a windows program. (that
> works fine)
>
> I have to create a directory on a NFS mount.
>
> In my test servlet, I have this snippet of code(see below)
>
> If I do /myservlet?&dir=c:/ (is see it ok)
> If I do /myservlet?&dir=z:/ (z is a mapped nfs mount, it
> does not see it)
>
> Here is the kicker, I wrote a little class that was basically
> the same but just a normal Java app, and it see z:/ OK
>
> Help???
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ===========================================================
> //DIR is a param passed in
>
> PrintWriter out = null;
> res.setContentType("text/html");
> out = new PrintWriter (res.getOutputStream());
>
> out.println( "looking for dir "+DIR+"<BR>");
>
> File fpath = new File(DIR);
> out.println("path-->"+fpath.getAbsolutePath());
> if ( !fpath.exists() ){
> out.println("Does not exist");
> }else{
> out.println("exist!!!!");
> }
> out.close();
>
> ===========================================================
>
>
>
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Help with tomcat on windoze/nfs
Posted by Randy Paries <ra...@unitnet.com>.
Hello,
I have the unfortunate opportunity of having to set up tomcat on windoze
(sorry I am a linux bigot)
I have this servlet that has to run a windows program. (that works fine)
I have to create a directory on a NFS mount.
In my test servlet, I have this snippet of code(see below)
If I do /myservlet?&dir=c:/ (is see it ok)
If I do /myservlet?&dir=z:/ (z is a mapped nfs mount, it does not see it)
Here is the kicker, I wrote a little class that was basically the same but
just a normal
Java app, and it see z:/ OK
Help???
Thanks
===========================================================
//DIR is a param passed in
PrintWriter out = null;
res.setContentType("text/html");
out = new PrintWriter (res.getOutputStream());
out.println( "looking for dir "+DIR+"<BR>");
File fpath = new File(DIR);
out.println("path-->"+fpath.getAbsolutePath());
if ( !fpath.exists() ){
out.println("Does not exist");
}else{
out.println("exist!!!!");
}
out.close();
===========================================================
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Re: Need access to classes outside Tomcat for JSPs
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
Why do you want your classes outside of Tomcat? Copy the classes to
your project when you build and eliminate the dependency. Or better
yet, use a build environment like Ant to do the copying for you. As a
bonus, it'll catch errors before you get to production and the webapp
will be more portable.
--David
Dan wrote:
> Classpath problem. Really frustrating.
>
> I'm trying to duplicate a setup on system A to system B and can't get
> it working. My problem is when I access the JSP page, Tomcat
> complains of a ClassNotFound exception. This happens with all of my
> custom classes. If I create a simple JSP page with no custom classes
> the JSP compiles fine.
>
> When I manually execute the class via "java com.xxx.MyClass" it
> responds appropriately (my environment's CLASSPATH includes the custom
> library paths).
>
> My custom classes live outside of the Tomcat directory (see below)
> because I use these classes in other non-web based applications, so
> they need to be available system wide.
>
> I have melted my brain today trying to figure out why system A works
> with this configuration but system B gives me the ClassNotFound
> exception. I have even copied my entire Tomcat directory from system
> A to system B with no change. I thought perhaps I was starting the
> service with additional parameters but I don't see any in the registry
> settings.
>
>
> Does anyone have an educated guess as to why I can't get this thing to
> work the way it's working on the other system and/or how I can get
> this working with my custom classes OUTSIDE of Tomcat.
>
>
>
> Win2K SP4
> Tomcat v5.0.27 as NT Service
>
> e:\java\tomcat
> e:\java\sdk (JDK 1.4.2)
> e:\java\library\custom\ (custom libraries)
> e:\java\library\basic (libraries from other sources)
>
>
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