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Posted to dev@marmotta.apache.org by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org> on 2013/09/20 12:51:23 UTC
[CANCELLED] [VOTE] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
So... we should cancel the vote for the RC1.
I already started to work on MARMOTTA-213. I plan to resolve it today,
so on Monday we could prepare a new release candidate to be vote.
Apologize for being so picky with such details.
On 18/09/13 08:40, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 13/09/13 16:12, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
>> finally done, a new release candidate for Apache Marmotta. Please check
>> the release as usual. Voting starts now and will end on Monday, 16th
>> September, 17:00 CEST. Please vote until then!
>
> apologize for my later vote, but I was off-line for few days.
>
>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache Marmotta
>> 3.1.0-incubating.
>> The vote is open for the next 72 hours and passes if a majority of at
>> least three +1 Marmotta PMC votes are cast.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating
>> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
> Sorry, but I have to vote -1, since I consider that MARMOTTA-213
> (Address the issues on our NOTICE files) is a critical issue that
> shouldn't shift to 3.2.
>
> Cheers,
>
--
Sergio Fernández
Re: [] [] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.
On 23/09/13 11:11, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
> For completeness, I also vote -1 after considering Sergio's concerns.
The vote did not arrive, at least I didn't get it.
> Sergio, how long do you expect you need for fixing MARMOTTA-213?
FMPOV the issue is solved. Although it'd be good if someone else could
check it, I think the NOTICE files are ready for being released.
--
--
Sergio Fernández
Re: [] [] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
Posted by Sebastian Schaffert <se...@gmail.com>.
For completeness, I also vote -1 after considering Sergio's concerns.
A problem is maybe that we are sometimes discussing things outside the list
without documenting them here. We need to improve this to involve the
community a bit more.
Sergio, how long do you expect you need for fixing MARMOTTA-213?
Greetings,
Sebastian
2013/9/23 Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>
> Hi Andy,
>
>
> On 21/09/13 21:40, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>
>> The community needs a norm for the vote process. If you want to adopt
>> "no -1"'s then fine - one -1 isn't a veto by default. I'm suggesting to
>> you all that it needs discussion in the community. For any particular
>> vote, the release manager is going to have to make the call; they can
>> weight the discussion and decide what to do, based on the community norm.
>>
>
> Besides my personal vote, for my the zero votes had more weight in
> cancelling it.
>
> But you are completely right: we, as a project, need to go through the
> process of becoming more transparent on these things.
>
> As usual, thanks for your kind support.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Sergio Fernández
>
Re: [] [] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.
Hi Andy,
On 21/09/13 21:40, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> The community needs a norm for the vote process. If you want to adopt
> "no -1"'s then fine - one -1 isn't a veto by default. I'm suggesting to
> you all that it needs discussion in the community. For any particular
> vote, the release manager is going to have to make the call; they can
> weight the discussion and decide what to do, based on the community norm.
Besides my personal vote, for my the zero votes had more weight in
cancelling it.
But you are completely right: we, as a project, need to go through the
process of becoming more transparent on these things.
As usual, thanks for your kind support.
Cheers,
--
Sergio Fernández
Re: [] [] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 21/09/13 13:21, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 21/09/13 12:56, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> On 20/09/13 11:51, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>>> So... we should cancel the vote for the RC1.
>>
>> I think you should spell out the reasons - it's good for the community
>> to discuss the process they want to adopt as a group.
>
> My reasons for voting -1 came from the vote for the previous release.
> The thread is http://markmail.org/message/numb2eguemhwdyrx but basically
> we were too detailed in out NOTICE files, including references that do
> not need to be there.
The community needs a norm for the vote process. If you want to adopt
"no -1"'s then fine - one -1 isn't a veto by default. I'm suggesting to
you all that it needs discussion in the community. For any particular
vote, the release manager is going to have to make the call; they can
weight the discussion and decide what to do, based on the community norm.
Andy
Re: [] [] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Hi,
On 21/09/13 12:56, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> On 20/09/13 11:51, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> So... we should cancel the vote for the RC1.
>
> I think you should spell out the reasons - it's good for the community
> to discuss the process they want to adopt as a group.
My reasons for voting -1 came from the vote for the previous release.
The thread is http://markmail.org/message/numb2eguemhwdyrx but basically
we were too detailed in out NOTICE files, including references that do
not need to be there.
Since the issue MARMOTTA-213 was assigned to me, I consider it my
responsibility. But I was offline during some days for personal reasons,
that's why I blocked the release candidate as planned. Apologize again
for such error.
> This may be helpful:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>
> What I see here is a stalled vote, with currently with one against.
Exactly, stalled for a week with:
0 +1s
0 0s
1 -1s
So the result was clear from my side. But you are right, we should
discuss it.
BTW, MARMOTTA-213 is not fine FMPOV, so from my side we could resume the
release process.
Cheers,
--
Sergio Fernández
Salzburg Research
+43 662 2288 318
Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
http://www.salzburgresearch.at
Re: [] [] Release Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating RC1
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 20/09/13 11:51, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> So... we should cancel the vote for the RC1.
I think you should spell out the reasons - it's good for the community
to discuss the process they want to adopt as a group.
This may be helpful:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
What I see here is a stalled vote, with currently with one against.
Discuss!
Andy
>
> I already started to work on MARMOTTA-213. I plan to resolve it today,
> so on Monday we could prepare a new release candidate to be vote.
>
> Apologize for being so picky with such details.
>
> On 18/09/13 08:40, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 13/09/13 16:12, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
>>> finally done, a new release candidate for Apache Marmotta. Please check
>>> the release as usual. Voting starts now and will end on Monday, 16th
>>> September, 17:00 CEST. Please vote until then!
>>
>> apologize for my later vote, but I was off-line for few days.
>>
>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache Marmotta
>>> 3.1.0-incubating.
>>> The vote is open for the next 72 hours and passes if a majority of at
>>> least three +1 Marmotta PMC votes are cast.
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Marmotta 3.1.0-incubating
>>> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>>
>> Sorry, but I have to vote -1, since I consider that MARMOTTA-213
>> (Address the issues on our NOTICE files) is a critical issue that
>> shouldn't shift to 3.2.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>