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source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Hi,

Building the source distribution from the nightly build fails. Both top 
level properties files are missing and a lot of java source files are 
missing, too.

To me it seems like the distribution only takes into account files under 
phoenix-deployment.

Shouldn't we build the source distribution from root directory (parent 
of phoenix-deployment and all other modules)?
If yes, I would try to extract this from pheonix-deployment and pull it 
one level up. That's what I think is correct. It would result something 
being more or less equivalent to
   svn export TRUNK | zip source-distribution.zip

WDYT?

   Bernd

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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Nov 16, 2007 10:45 AM, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
> Bernd Fondermann ha scritto:
> > what do we want to do about the stage directory?
> > it is not included, but needs to be to build out-of-the-box.
> >
> > AFAIR, there are stil some concerns about licensing.
> > we could exclude the related libs and include the others.
>
> We probably will have to remove some pom or create our own.
> The same considerations I wrote about jSieve (before Robert noticed that
> we could simply remove the "problematic" dependencies) are valid for server.

+1

> As far as I can tell no action has been taken to fix the pom licensing
> issue on the central maven repository. My last attempt to raise the
> issue there failed.

i think that the right approach would be to prepare a summary of the
issue and the problems is causes us. when a new chair has been
elected, the chair should present our issue to the legal team (yes, i
know i'm on it but it's better to come from the project). it should
also be included in our next board report.

- robert

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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org>.
Bernd Fondermann ha scritto:
> what do we want to do about the stage directory?
> it is not included, but needs to be to build out-of-the-box.
> 
> AFAIR, there are stil some concerns about licensing.
> we could exclude the related libs and include the others.

We probably will have to remove some pom or create our own.
The same considerations I wrote about jSieve (before Robert noticed that
we could simply remove the "problematic" dependencies) are valid for server.

As far as I can tell no action has been taken to fix the pom licensing
issue on the central maven repository. My last attempt to raise the
issue there failed.

JARs present in the stage folder should be all redistributable, so the
problem is limited to the pom licensing. As you can see many of them do
not have a license header (all of them, probably) and while some of them
have been clearly created by ASF members for the ASF and we can (safely)
think they are ASLv2 there are many of them for which we don't know the
licensing and we can't redistribute them.

Stefano

>   Bernd
> 
> On Nov 11, 2007 7:20 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 6, 2007 1:21 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
>> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> if no one else jumps in soon, i'll go ahead and implement
>> please take a look and check if i've missed anything
>>
>> - robert



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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
what do we want to do about the stage directory?
it is not included, but needs to be to build out-of-the-box.

AFAIR, there are stil some concerns about licensing.
we could exclude the related libs and include the others.

  Bernd

On Nov 11, 2007 7:20 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 2007 1:21 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > if no one else jumps in soon, i'll go ahead and implement
>
> please take a look and check if i've missed anything
>
> - robert
>
>
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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Nov 6, 2007 1:21 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if no one else jumps in soon, i'll go ahead and implement

please take a look and check if i've missed anything

- robert

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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
if no one else jumps in soon, i'll go ahead and implement

On Nov 5, 2007 6:06 PM, Serge Knystautas <sk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/2/07, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> > B) +1
>
> +1
>
> --
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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Serge Knystautas <sk...@gmail.com>.
On 11/2/07, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> B) +1

+1

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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>.
Am Donnerstag, den 01.11.2007, 20:00 +0000 schrieb Robert Burrell
Donkin:
> On Oct 31, 2007 9:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> > >
> > >> Building the source distribution from the nightly build fails. Both top
> > >> level properties files are missing and a lot of java source files are
> > >> missing, too.
> > >
> > >> Shouldn't we build the source distribution from root directory (parent
> > >> of phoenix-deployment and all other modules)?
> > >
> > > Arguably, we shouldn't bother to distribute source for the nightlies.  Just
> > > binary, and let people come to SVN for anything else.
> >
> > Fine with me.
> >
> > As soon as we want to release something, we would need to fix that anyway.
> > I'll create a blocking JIRA.
> 
> mea culpa
> 
> i always create source distributions the old fashioned way: just clean
> checkout the source then tar or zip manually
> 
> i'll fix but i can either
> 
> A) remove the source distribution build
> or B) ensure the source build includes all modules
> 
> opinions?
> 
> - robert

B) +1

bye
Norman


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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>.
On 11/1/07, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 31, 2007 9:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> > >
> > >> Building the source distribution from the nightly build fails. Both top
> > >> level properties files are missing and a lot of java source files are
> > >> missing, too.
> > >
> > >> Shouldn't we build the source distribution from root directory (parent
> > >> of phoenix-deployment and all other modules)?
> > >
> > > Arguably, we shouldn't bother to distribute source for the nightlies.  Just
> > > binary, and let people come to SVN for anything else.
> >
> > Fine with me.
> >
> > As soon as we want to release something, we would need to fix that anyway.
> > I'll create a blocking JIRA.
>
> mea culpa

> i always create source distributions the old fashioned way: just clean
> checkout the source then tar or zip manually

is this the equivalent to B) below?

> i'll fix but i can either
>
> A) remove the source distribution build
> or B) ensure the source build includes all modules
>
> opinions?

I'd favor B)
Let's just package up everything coming out of svn and leave out the
artefacts created by the build.

  Bernd

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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 31, 2007 9:18 PM, Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de> wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> >
> >> Building the source distribution from the nightly build fails. Both top
> >> level properties files are missing and a lot of java source files are
> >> missing, too.
> >
> >> Shouldn't we build the source distribution from root directory (parent
> >> of phoenix-deployment and all other modules)?
> >
> > Arguably, we shouldn't bother to distribute source for the nightlies.  Just
> > binary, and let people come to SVN for anything else.
>
> Fine with me.
>
> As soon as we want to release something, we would need to fix that anyway.
> I'll create a blocking JIRA.

mea culpa

i always create source distributions the old fashioned way: just clean
checkout the source then tar or zip manually

i'll fix but i can either

A) remove the source distribution build
or B) ensure the source build includes all modules

opinions?

- robert

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Re: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by Bernd Fondermann <bf...@brainlounge.de>.
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> 
>> Building the source distribution from the nightly build fails. Both top
>> level properties files are missing and a lot of java source files are
>> missing, too.
> 
>> Shouldn't we build the source distribution from root directory (parent
>> of phoenix-deployment and all other modules)?
> 
> Arguably, we shouldn't bother to distribute source for the nightlies.  Just
> binary, and let people come to SVN for anything else.

Fine with me.

As soon as we want to release something, we would need to fix that anyway.
I'll create a blocking JIRA.

   Bernd

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RE: source distribution 3.0 snapshot

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Bernd Fondermann wrote:

> Building the source distribution from the nightly build fails. Both top
> level properties files are missing and a lot of java source files are
> missing, too.

> Shouldn't we build the source distribution from root directory (parent
> of phoenix-deployment and all other modules)?

Arguably, we shouldn't bother to distribute source for the nightlies.  Just
binary, and let people come to SVN for anything else.

	--- Noel



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