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Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Hi to all developers,

I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very important
piece for many other projects.
But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a half years ago!
(According to this: http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)

I would like to ask:

1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide webdav client?

2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may belong
to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?


(I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this useful
project gets some stable deliverables that others can depend on!


Regards,
  Kostis

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Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@zeigermann.de>.
If anyone is willing to do some work in the client: Is it easily
possible to add form based authentication to allow access to Exchange
servers having this form of authentication?

More info can be found here:

http://www.infinitec.de/articles/exchange/webdavwithfba.aspx

Cheers
Oliver

2007/4/5, Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@zeigermann.de>:
> It does make sense also from the technical view. AFAIK client and
> server are independent developments.
>
> Oliver
>
> 2007/4/5, Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>:
> > Does it also make technical sense or are there no shared deps between server and client ?
> > Willing to drive this (the only things I did in Slide was working on the client). At the earliest I
> > would do this after or at apachecon, since I am really swamped till the end of the month
> >
> > Mvgr,
> > Martin
> >
> > Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> > > Maybe it is a good idea to move the WebDAV client library to Jakarta
> > > Commons. However, there must be an individual driving the process.
> > >
> > > Oliver
> > >
> > > 2007/4/4, Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>:
> > >> Hi to all developers,
> > >>
> > >> I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very important
> > >> piece for many other projects.
> > >> But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a half years ago!
> > >> (According to this: http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)
> > >>
> > >> I would like to ask:
> > >>
> > >> 1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide webdav
> > >> client?
> > >>
> > >> 2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may belong
> > >> to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> (I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this useful
> > >> project gets some stable deliverables that others can depend on!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>   Kostis
> > >>
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Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>.
On Monday 09 April 2007 15:39, Darren Hartford wrote:
>
> Bonus)  Since the Apache Jackrabbit project also has a WebDAV client
> library, would be a very good opportunity to bring the two different
> client libraries together under one 'commons-webdav' (or whatever it
> will be called).
>
 +1!

Also, WebDAV Commandline Client should join that (new-or-existent) project.

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RE: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Darren Hartford <dh...@ghsinc.com>.
>From a user standpoint, moving the slide client to commons does make
sense.  As a library user and from an application developer you would
either be:

1) working on a content storage, at which point working with Slide
Server.

2) working on accessing internal or external WebDAV repositories, at
which point only interested in the webdav-client.  

2a) This also has a double-benefit when looking at commons-vfs that you
get a 'commons-webdav' library instead of, presently, downloading the
slide source tree to compile a recent webdav client lib with several
bugfixes that are not in an existing binary yet.

Bonus)  Since the Apache Jackrabbit project also has a WebDAV client
library, would be a very good opportunity to bring the two different
client libraries together under one 'commons-webdav' (or whatever it
will be called).

As to with commons-httpclient, or as its own commons-library, that is
open for discussion.  WebDAV has a dependency on commons-httpclient, but
since WebDAV has its own level of domain knowledge above and beyond
normal HTTP, keeping it on its own does not seem unreasonable (again,
based on the domain knowledge needed).

My two coppers,
-D 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:mllist@mvdb.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:42 AM
> To: Slide Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it 
> into a jakarta's commons Httpclient
> 
> So technically it is ok to separate them.
> 
> Slide is doing better on activity atm and I rather focus on 
> increasing that activity and in the end move to a Slide TLP, 
> then splitting up Slide to commons, leaving Slide with just 
> the server part and possibly no future of becoming TLP and 
> therefor no future.
> Also I wonder if commons is a place where the slide client 
> has any life expectancy, since people interested in webdav 
> are hanging around here and not necessarily at commons.
> 
> Though choice.
> 
> Mvgr,
> Martin
> 
> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> > It does make sense also from the technical view. AFAIK client and 
> > server are independent developments.
> > 
> > Oliver
> > 
> > 2007/4/5, Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>:
> >> Does it also make technical sense or are there no shared 
> deps between 
> >> server and client ?
> >> Willing to drive this (the only things I did in Slide was 
> working on 
> >> the client). At the earliest I would do this after or at 
> apachecon, 
> >> since I am really swamped till the end of the month
> >>
> >> Mvgr,
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> >> > Maybe it is a good idea to move the WebDAV client library to 
> >> > Jakarta Commons. However, there must be an individual 
> driving the process.
> >> >
> >> > Oliver
> >> >
> >> > 2007/4/4, Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>:
> >> >> Hi to all developers,
> >> >>
> >> >> I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very 
> important 
> >> >> piece for many other projects.
> >> >> But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a 
> half years ago!
> >> >> (According to this:
> >> http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to ask:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide 
> >> >> webdav client?
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may 
> >> >> belong to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> (I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this 
> >> >> useful project gets some stable deliverables that 
> others can depend on!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>   Kostis
> >> >>

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Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
So technically it is ok to separate them.

Slide is doing better on activity atm and I rather focus on increasing that activity and in the end
move to a Slide TLP, then splitting up Slide to commons, leaving Slide with just the server part and
possibly no future of becoming TLP and therefor no future.
Also I wonder if commons is a place where the slide client has any life expectancy, since people
interested in webdav are hanging around here and not necessarily at commons.

Though choice.

Mvgr,
Martin

Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> It does make sense also from the technical view. AFAIK client and
> server are independent developments.
> 
> Oliver
> 
> 2007/4/5, Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>:
>> Does it also make technical sense or are there no shared deps between
>> server and client ?
>> Willing to drive this (the only things I did in Slide was working on
>> the client). At the earliest I
>> would do this after or at apachecon, since I am really swamped till
>> the end of the month
>>
>> Mvgr,
>> Martin
>>
>> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
>> > Maybe it is a good idea to move the WebDAV client library to Jakarta
>> > Commons. However, there must be an individual driving the process.
>> >
>> > Oliver
>> >
>> > 2007/4/4, Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>:
>> >> Hi to all developers,
>> >>
>> >> I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very important
>> >> piece for many other projects.
>> >> But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a half years ago!
>> >> (According to this:
>> http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)
>> >>
>> >> I would like to ask:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide webdav
>> >> client?
>> >>
>> >> 2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may belong
>> >> to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> (I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this useful
>> >> project gets some stable deliverables that others can depend on!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>   Kostis
>> >>
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Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@zeigermann.de>.
It does make sense also from the technical view. AFAIK client and
server are independent developments.

Oliver

2007/4/5, Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>:
> Does it also make technical sense or are there no shared deps between server and client ?
> Willing to drive this (the only things I did in Slide was working on the client). At the earliest I
> would do this after or at apachecon, since I am really swamped till the end of the month
>
> Mvgr,
> Martin
>
> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> > Maybe it is a good idea to move the WebDAV client library to Jakarta
> > Commons. However, there must be an individual driving the process.
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > 2007/4/4, Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>:
> >> Hi to all developers,
> >>
> >> I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very important
> >> piece for many other projects.
> >> But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a half years ago!
> >> (According to this: http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)
> >>
> >> I would like to ask:
> >>
> >> 1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide webdav
> >> client?
> >>
> >> 2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may belong
> >> to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?
> >>
> >>
> >> (I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this useful
> >> project gets some stable deliverables that others can depend on!
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Kostis
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
Does it also make technical sense or are there no shared deps between server and client ?
Willing to drive this (the only things I did in Slide was working on the client). At the earliest I
would do this after or at apachecon, since I am really swamped till the end of the month

Mvgr,
Martin

Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> Maybe it is a good idea to move the WebDAV client library to Jakarta
> Commons. However, there must be an individual driving the process.
> 
> Oliver
> 
> 2007/4/4, Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>:
>> Hi to all developers,
>>
>> I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very important
>> piece for many other projects.
>> But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a half years ago!
>> (According to this: http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)
>>
>> I would like to ask:
>>
>> 1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide webdav
>> client?
>>
>> 2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may belong
>> to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?
>>
>>
>> (I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this useful
>> project gets some stable deliverables that others can depend on!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Kostis
>>
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Re: Release the webdav client and consider moving it into a jakarta's commons Httpclient

Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@zeigermann.de>.
Maybe it is a good idea to move the WebDAV client library to Jakarta
Commons. However, there must be an individual driving the process.

Oliver

2007/4/4, Kostis Anagnostopoulos <an...@gmail.com>:
> Hi to all developers,
>
> I hava noticed that the WebDAV client library is a very important
> piece for many other projects.
> But the latest stable version is 2.1, release 2 and a half years ago!
> (According to this: http://apache.otenet.gr/dist/jakarta/slide/binaries/)
>
> I would like to ask:
>
> 1) Are there any plans for releasing a newer version of slide webdav client?
>
> 2) Does anybody agree on me that the WebDAV functionality may belong
> to the Apache commons HTTP-Client library?
>
>
> (I hope) I'm not starting a flame-war, i just wish that this useful
> project gets some stable deliverables that others can depend on!
>
>
> Regards,
>   Kostis
>
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