Re: Policy for Jakarta Wiki(s)

["Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>]

That¹s fine, but the results aren't very useful see this:

http://wiki.apache.org/general/FindPage?action=titlesearch&value=FAQ

This is what I mean (across wikis):

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?search=FAQ&dosearch=1

The main issue I have with splitting things up are search and linkage.  I
have no objections otherwise (supposing someone else has the headache of
dealing with 100 different wiki configs).

Also consider this:

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?search=AvalonFAQ

I can find out what pages are linked FROM as well as TO.

Its unfortunate no wiki supports namespaces of a sort.

-Andy

On 12/10/03 6:42 AM, "Leo Simons" <le...@apache.org> wrote:

> done:
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/FindPage
> 
> newly created wikis will have the search box by default.
> Even did the neat "google customization trick".
> 
> - LSD
> 
> Jason Dillon wrote:
> 
>> Why not add a google wiki search over wiki.apache.org?
>> 
>> --jason
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:22 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> 
>>> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>>> 
>>>> we should not loose search and cross linking capabilities.
>>>> I really want to throw my support behind wiki.apache.org
>>>> but it doesn't support this which makes Apache look like
>>>> such an opaque spider.
>>> 
>>> This is the first that I recall hearing such comments from you.
>>> Don't you
>>> think that you should air your concerns to the folks working on the
>>> Wiki?
>>> 
>>> What is wrong with interWiki links for your second item?
>>> 
>>>     --- Noel
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Policy for Jakarta Wiki(s)

[Tetsuya Kitahata <te...@apache.org>]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:53:33 +0100
Leo Simons wrote:

> nope, definately not the same. But I do suspect that within time, as
> the moin wiki actually sees usage (and a better pagerank), the google
> search will improve.

TIPS:

You can not expect the google engine (google-bot) to cache the
pages of .CGI.
Why don't you guys think of the re-config (.htaccess) of /wiki/
directory on apache-httpd?
e.g. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?HomePage
      => http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/?HomePage

Hope this helps.

-- Tetsuya. (tetsuya@apache.org)

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Re: Policy for Jakarta Wiki(s)

[Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>]

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

>That¹s fine, but the results aren't very useful see this:
>
>http://wiki.apache.org/general/FindPage?action=titlesearch&value=FAQ
>
>This is what I mean (across wikis):
>
>http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?search=FAQ&dosearch=1
>
>The main issue I have with splitting things up are search
>
nope, definately not the same. But I do suspect that within time, as
the moin wiki actually sees usage (and a better pagerank), the google
search will improve.

I don't think it will be very difficult to add a cross-wiki fulltext search
of our own, but I don't have time to do that atm. Maybe in a week or
two.

>and linkage.
>
I think this is more of a personal thing :D. I've always liked the Moin
style of linking a lot better.

Alsoa, its all about what links you mean, of course. For example, contrast

http://wiki.apache.org/geronimo/FAQ (no, it doesn't exist yet, but it could)

with

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheJ2EE/FAQ

>I have no objections otherwise (supposing someone else has the headache of
>dealing with 100 different wiki configs).
>
yep. Jason set up a nice little system for that.

>Its unfortunate no wiki supports namespaces of a sort.
>
+1. No wiki is perfect, which is why there are so many, I guess.

- LSD



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