You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to user@pig.apache.org by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com> on 2012/08/17 00:07:07 UTC
Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
Russell Jurney
twitter.com/rjurney
russell.jurney@gmail.com
datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Here's an example of a blog post I'd like to see on the Pig blog:
Title: LinkedIn Engineering on Apache Pig and Who Viewed my Profile
http://engineering.linkedin.com/hadoop/user-engagement-powered-apache-pig-and-hadoop
Summary: This blog post tells the story of how you can use Apache Pig and
Hadoop to turn terabytes of data into user engagement. It starts with a
question: who viewed my profile <http://www.linkedin.com/wvmx/profile>? The
answer, as It turns out, can drive a lot of users to the site.
---------
This post is a lot more likely to encourage posts from Linked and others
than an anonymize one would. It will also fare better with readers because
LinkedIn is a credible shop. It is also more likely to encourage Twitter to
blog about Pig so as not to be outdone by LinkedIn.
On Wednesday, August 22, 2012, Bill Graham wrote:
> +1 as well.
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally
> > appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog
> without
> > mentioning the name of the corporation.
> > >
> > > More thoughts?
> >
> > I'm +1 on this.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Santhosh
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > > To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> > >
> > > I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> > > the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> > > blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> > > datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> > > on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
> > >
> > > The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> > > distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> > > post, we should reblog it with a link back.
> > >
> > > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> > >
> > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't
> > already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since
> > companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be
> > excited to publish on Apache first.
> > >>
> > >> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have
> > already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short
> > blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over
> on
> > http://Y, go take a look".
> > >>
> > >> Alan.
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did
> > not find anything and hence the post.
> > >>>
> > >>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should
> > first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the
> > corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from
> the
> > corporate interests.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts?
> > >>>
> > >>> Santhosh
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> > >>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> > >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> > >>>
> > >>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
> > >>>
> > >>> We don't have any posts there yet.
> > >>>
> > >>> Alan.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig
> > Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Santhosh
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ________________________________
> > >>>> From: Jonathan Coveney--
> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
> billgraham@gmail.com <javascript:;> going forward.*
>
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>.
I hope we are clear on the guidelines for posting on the Apache Pig blog based on the response from the Apache Press Team.
I am summarizing it below:
1. Only Apache Pig Committers are allowed to blog on the Apache Pig blog
2. PMC members have to pen an introduction to articles by non-committers prior to the repost of the blog
3. Its fine to mention the name of the corporation as it relates to the current employment of the committer.
"Apache Pig Committer and TITLE at EMPLOYER AUTHOR NAME"
4. For PMC recommended reads, the location of the article is fine
"the latest article on BigData by Computerworld"
5. We need to stay vendor neutral as per ASF policy
I think we have a closure. Please let me know if its not the case.
Thanks,
Santhosh
________________________________
From: Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>
To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>; "billgraham@gmail.com" <bi...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Looks like we are reaching consensus. However, there are some concerns that Russell has expressed.
I would like to pass our discussion by the Apache Press Team (press@apache.org) to ensure that everything is fine. Perhaps some of the concerns that I raised could be invalid.
I will send a separate email to press@apache.org and copy the user@pig.apache.org list to keep folks in the loop.
Thanks,
Santhosh
________________________________
From: Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
To: user@pig.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, August
22, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
+1 as well.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally
> appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without
> mentioning the name of the corporation.
> >
> > More thoughts?
>
> I'm +1 on this.
>
> Alan.
>
>
> >
> > Santhosh
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
>
> To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >
> > I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> > the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> > blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> > datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> > on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
> >
> > The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index
and
> > distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's
value in the
> > post, we should reblog it with a link back.
> >
> > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> > On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't
> already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since
> companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be
> excited to publish on Apache first.
> >>
> >> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have
> already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short
> blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on
> http://Y, go take a
look".
> >>
> >>
Alan.
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did
> not find anything and hence the post.
> >>>
> >>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should
> first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the
> corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the
> corporate interests.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Santhosh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >>>
> >>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
> >>>
> >>> We don't have any posts there yet.
> >>>
> >>> Alan.
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig
> Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Santhosh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Jonathan Coveney
<jc...@gmail.com>
> >>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate
> blog, and
> >>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that
> opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I
> mean,
> >>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted
> by
> >>>> corporations :)
>
>>>>
> >>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog.
> But one
> >>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle
> references
> >>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries
> supporting and
> >>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious
> conflict of
> >>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>
>
--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>.
Looks like we are reaching consensus. However, there are some concerns that Russell has expressed.
I would like to pass our discussion by the Apache Press Team (press@apache.org) to ensure that everything is fine. Perhaps some of the concerns that I raised could be invalid.
I will send a separate email to press@apache.org and copy the user@pig.apache.org list to keep folks in the loop.
Thanks,
Santhosh
________________________________
From: Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>
To: user@pig.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
+1 as well.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally
> appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without
> mentioning the name of the corporation.
> >
> > More thoughts?
>
> I'm +1 on this.
>
> Alan.
>
>
> >
> > Santhosh
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >
> > I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> > the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> > blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> > datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> > on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
> >
> > The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> > distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> > post, we should reblog it with a link back.
> >
> > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> > On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't
> already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since
> companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be
> excited to publish on Apache first.
> >>
> >> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have
> already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short
> blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on
> http://Y, go take a look".
> >>
> >> Alan.
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did
> not find anything and hence the post.
> >>>
> >>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should
> first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the
> corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the
> corporate interests.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Santhosh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >>>
> >>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
> >>>
> >>> We don't have any posts there yet.
> >>>
> >>> Alan.
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig
> Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Santhosh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> >>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate
> blog, and
> >>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that
> opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I
> mean,
> >>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted
> by
> >>>> corporations :)
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog.
> But one
> >>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle
> references
> >>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries
> supporting and
> >>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious
> conflict of
> >>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>
>
--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Bill Graham <bi...@gmail.com>.
+1 as well.
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally
> appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without
> mentioning the name of the corporation.
> >
> > More thoughts?
>
> I'm +1 on this.
>
> Alan.
>
>
> >
> > Santhosh
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >
> > I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> > the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> > blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> > datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> > on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
> >
> > The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> > distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> > post, we should reblog it with a link back.
> >
> > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> > On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't
> already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since
> companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be
> excited to publish on Apache first.
> >>
> >> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have
> already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short
> blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on
> http://Y, go take a look".
> >>
> >> Alan.
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did
> not find anything and hence the post.
> >>>
> >>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should
> first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the
> corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the
> corporate interests.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Santhosh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >>>
> >>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
> >>>
> >>> We don't have any posts there yet.
> >>>
> >>> Alan.
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig
> Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Santhosh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> >>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate
> blog, and
> >>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that
> opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I
> mean,
> >>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted
> by
> >>>> corporations :)
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog.
> But one
> >>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle
> references
> >>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries
> supporting and
> >>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious
> conflict of
> >>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Russell Jurney
> >>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
> >>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> >>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>
>
--
*Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. Please email me at
billgraham@gmail.com going forward.*
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
>
> Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without mentioning the name of the corporation.
>
> More thoughts?
I'm +1 on this.
Alan.
>
> Santhosh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
>
> The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> post, we should reblog it with a link back.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be excited to publish on Apache first.
>>
>> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look".
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
>>>
>>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Santhosh
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>
>>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
>>>
>>> We don't have any posts there yet.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Santhosh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>>
>>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
>>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
>>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
>>>> corporations :)
>>>>
>>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
It is complicated because such a policy would result in zero activity on
the Pig blog.
How about instead we let companies compete to blog the best Pig
documentation, and recognize them with link backs for doing so? This policy
will result in a successful Pig blog.
Thoughts?
On Wednesday, August 22, 2012, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
>
> "Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally
> appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without
> mentioning the name of the corporation."
>
> Could you please help me understand what was complex in the above
> statement. I will add an example and hopefully that should make it clear. I
> am using wiki markup for simplicity (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup#Links_and_URLs)
>
> E.g:
>
> The following blog is a repost from [ URL here ]
>
> Reposted contents
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Russell Jurney <russell.jurney@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> To: "user@pig.apache.org <javascript:;>" <user@pig.apache.org<javascript:;>
> >
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> Sounds complex. I'm more interested in posting my stuff on pig to the
> Pig blog than crafting a policy.
>
> Do you have content you intend to contribute to the Ig blog, or is
> this merely theoretical?
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I am not aware of the blogging guidelines from Apache. I could not
> locate any links to that effect.
> >
> > I examined about 10 projects that have blogs on Apache and read/scanned
> about 50 of the entries. My search was not exhaustive and nor was it meant
> to be conclusive. It was a sample.I was trying to check if there were any
> blogs of the form:
> >
> > 1. "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look" - None
> >
> > 2. Blogs that were reposted with a link back - None (see # 5 below for a
> similar case)
> >
> > 3. Blogs that had a link to a corporate site directly with the name of
> the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had links for downloads in an interview
> along with the name of the company with links that the interviewees were at
> and Apache Click had the name of the blogger and to the site of the book)
> > - http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for Jan 5, 2010 and Oct 24,
> 2009)
> >
> > - http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jun 18, 2012)
> >
> >
> > 4. Blog that had a link to a corporate site without mentioning the name
> of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had one link to a personal blog and
> Apache Click had 4 links for examples)
> > - http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for May 8, 2010)
> > - http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jan 19, 2012)
> >
> > 5. Blog that had the name of a corporation without any links - 2 (Apche
> HBase - TrendMicro is mentioned and Apache Flume - Cloudera was mentioned
> as the venue for a meetup)
> > - https://blogs.apache.org/hbase/entry/coprocessor_introduction (a link
> to the original blog that no longer exists is presented without a hyperlink)
> > - https://blogs.apache.org/flume/entry/apache_flume_hackathon
> >
> > Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally
> appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without
> mentioning the name of the corporation.
> >
> > More thoughts?
> >
> > Santhosh
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> > To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
> >
> > I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> > the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> > blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> > datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> > on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
> >
> > The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> > distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> > post, we should reblog it with a link back.
> >
> > Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
> >
> > On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't
> already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since
> companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be
> excited to publish on Apache first.
> >>
> >> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the P
--
Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jurney@gmail.com datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>.
"Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without mentioning the name of the corporation."
Could you please help me understand what was complex in the above statement. I will add an example and hopefully that should make it clear. I am using wiki markup for simplicity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup#Links_and_URLs)
E.g:
The following blog is a repost from [ URL here ]
Reposted contents
________________________________
From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Sounds complex. I'm more interested in posting my stuff on pig to the
Pig blog than crafting a policy.
Do you have content you intend to contribute to the Ig blog, or is
this merely theoretical?
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am not aware of the blogging guidelines from Apache. I could not locate any links to that effect.
>
> I examined about 10 projects that have blogs on Apache and read/scanned about 50 of the entries. My search was not exhaustive and nor was it meant to be conclusive. It was a sample.I was trying to check if there were any blogs of the form:
>
> 1. "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look" - None
>
> 2. Blogs that were reposted with a link back - None (see # 5 below for a similar case)
>
> 3. Blogs that had a link to a corporate site directly with the name of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had links for downloads in an interview along with the name of the company with links that the interviewees were at and Apache Click had the name of the blogger and to the site of the book)
> - http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for Jan 5, 2010 and Oct 24, 2009)
>
> - http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jun 18, 2012)
>
>
> 4. Blog that had a link to a corporate site without mentioning the name of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had one link to a personal blog and Apache Click had 4 links for examples)
> - http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for May 8, 2010)
> - http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jan 19, 2012)
>
> 5. Blog that had the name of a corporation without any links - 2 (Apche HBase - TrendMicro is mentioned and Apache Flume - Cloudera was mentioned as the venue for a meetup)
> - https://blogs.apache.org/hbase/entry/coprocessor_introduction (a link to the original blog that no longer exists is presented without a hyperlink)
> - https://blogs.apache.org/flume/entry/apache_flume_hackathon
>
> Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without mentioning the name of the corporation.
>
> More thoughts?
>
> Santhosh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
>
> The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> post, we should reblog it with a link back.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be excited to publish on Apache first.
>>
>> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look".
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
>>>
>>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Santhosh
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>
>>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
>>>
>>> We don't have any posts there yet.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Santhosh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>>
>>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
>>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
>>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
>>>> corporations :)
>>>>
>>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
Sounds complex. I'm more interested in posting my stuff on pig to the
Pig blog than crafting a policy.
Do you have content you intend to contribute to the Ig blog, or is
this merely theoretical?
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am not aware of the blogging guidelines from Apache. I could not locate any links to that effect.
>
> I examined about 10 projects that have blogs on Apache and read/scanned about 50 of the entries. My search was not exhaustive and nor was it meant to be conclusive. It was a sample.I was trying to check if there were any blogs of the form:
>
> 1. "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look" - None
>
> 2. Blogs that were reposted with a link back - None (see # 5 below for a similar case)
>
> 3. Blogs that had a link to a corporate site directly with the name of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had links for downloads in an interview along with the name of the company with links that the interviewees were at and Apache Click had the name of the blogger and to the site of the book)
> - http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for Jan 5, 2010 and Oct 24, 2009)
>
> - http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jun 18, 2012)
>
>
> 4. Blog that had a link to a corporate site without mentioning the name of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had one link to a personal blog and Apache Click had 4 links for examples)
> - http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for May 8, 2010)
> - http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jan 19, 2012)
>
> 5. Blog that had the name of a corporation without any links - 2 (Apche HBase - TrendMicro is mentioned and Apache Flume - Cloudera was mentioned as the venue for a meetup)
> - https://blogs.apache.org/hbase/entry/coprocessor_introduction (a link to the original blog that no longer exists is presented without a hyperlink)
> - https://blogs.apache.org/flume/entry/apache_flume_hackathon
>
> Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without mentioning the name of the corporation.
>
> More thoughts?
>
> Santhosh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
> To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
> the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
> blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
> datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
> on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
>
> The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
> distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
> post, we should reblog it with a link back.
>
> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be excited to publish on Apache first.
>>
>> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look".
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
>>>
>>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Santhosh
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>
>>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
>>>
>>> We don't have any posts there yet.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Santhosh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>>
>>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
>>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
>>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
>>>> corporations :)
>>>>
>>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>>> datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>.
I am not aware of the blogging guidelines from Apache. I could not locate any links to that effect.
I examined about 10 projects that have blogs on Apache and read/scanned about 50 of the entries. My search was not exhaustive and nor was it meant to be conclusive. It was a sample.I was trying to check if there were any blogs of the form:
1. "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look" - None
2. Blogs that were reposted with a link back - None (see # 5 below for a similar case)
3. Blogs that had a link to a corporate site directly with the name of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had links for downloads in an interview along with the name of the company with links that the interviewees were at and Apache Click had the name of the blogger and to the site of the book)
- http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for Jan 5, 2010 and Oct 24, 2009)
- http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jun 18, 2012)
4. Blog that had a link to a corporate site without mentioning the name of the company - 2 (Apache Open Office had one link to a personal blog and Apache Click had 4 links for examples)
- http://blogs.apache.org/click/ (See entry for May 8, 2010)
- http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ (See entry for Jan 19, 2012)
5. Blog that had the name of a corporation without any links - 2 (Apche HBase - TrendMicro is mentioned and Apache Flume - Cloudera was mentioned as the venue for a meetup)
- https://blogs.apache.org/hbase/entry/coprocessor_introduction (a link to the original blog that no longer exists is presented without a hyperlink)
- https://blogs.apache.org/flume/entry/apache_flume_hackathon
Could we repost the entire blog and indicate that this blog originally appeared here with the here being a hyperlink to the corporate blog without mentioning the name of the corporation.
More thoughts?
Santhosh
________________________________
From: Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>
To: "user@pig.apache.org" <us...@pig.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
post, we should reblog it with a link back.
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be excited to publish on Apache first.
>
> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look".
>
> Alan.
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
>>
>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Santhosh
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>
>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
>>
>> We don't have any posts there yet.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>
>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Santhosh
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>
>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>>>
>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
>>> corporations :)
>>>
>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>
>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>>>
>>>> Alan.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Russell Jurney <ru...@gmail.com>.
I like the idea of re-blogging the entire thing with a link back to
the company. Blogs take time, and time is money, so posting to the Pig
blog first isn't likely. Even personal posts about Pig on my blog
datasyndrome.com, I'd rather post them on my blog and reblog/link back
on the Pig blog. This is consistent with common practice.
The real point here is to get common place to recognize, index and
distribute blog post HOWTOs as documentation. If there's value in the
post, we should reblog it with a link back.
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be excited to publish on Apache first.
>
> If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look".
>
> Alan.
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
>> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
>>
>> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Santhosh
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>
>> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
>>
>> We don't have any posts there yet.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>>
>>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Santhosh
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>>
>>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
>>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>>>
>>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
>>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
>>> corporations :)
>>>
>>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>>
>>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>>>
>>>> Alan.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>>> datasyndrome.com
>
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
Are you saying we should only post things to the Pig blog that isn't already on a corporate blog? I'm not sure that's going to fly, since companies pay people to write blogs for them. They aren't going to be excited to publish on Apache first.
If we don't feel comfortable posting things on the Pig blog that have already been posted on a corporate blog we could instead post very short blogs entries that say something like "A blog on X has been posted over on http://Y, go take a look".
Alan.
On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
>
> If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Santhosh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> To: user@pig.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
>
> We don't have any posts there yet.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
>
>> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Santhosh
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
>> To: user@pig.apache.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>>
>> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
>> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>>
>> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
>> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
>> corporations :)
>>
>> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>>
>>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>>
>>>> Russell Jurney
>>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>>> datasyndrome.com
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>.
Thanks Alan! I went to that site before my previous email and I did not find anything and hence the post.
If the content has no association with any corporation, we should first post it on the Apache Pig Blog and then cross post it on the corporate blog. This way, we can decouple the community interests from the corporate interests.
Thoughts?
Santhosh
________________________________
From: Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
To: user@pig.apache.org
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
We don't have any posts there yet.
Alan.
On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Santhosh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> To: user@pig.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>
> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
> corporations :)
>
> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>
>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>
>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>
>>>
>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>
>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>
>>> Russell Jurney
>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
http://blogs.apache.org/pig/
We don't have any posts there yet.
Alan.
On Aug 17, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Santhosh M S wrote:
> Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
>
> Thanks,
> Santhosh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
> To: user@pig.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
>
> I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
> of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
>
> I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
> it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
> corporations :)
>
> 2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
>
>> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
>> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
>> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
>> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
>> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>>
>>> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>>>
>>>
>> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>>>
>>> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>>>
>>> Russell Jurney
>>> twitter.com/rjurney
>>> russell.jurney@gmail.com
>>> datasyndrome.com
>>
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Santhosh M S <sa...@yahoo.com>.
Before we post the blog, can someone post the URL for the Apache Pig Blog. Search engine queries are not returning anything useful.
Thanks,
Santhosh
________________________________
From: Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>
To: user@pig.apache.org
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
corporations :)
2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>
> > I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
> >
> >
> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
> >
> > Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
> >
> > Russell Jurney
> > twitter.com/rjurney
> > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > datasyndrome.com
>
>
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Jonathan Coveney <jc...@gmail.com>.
I'm ok with that as long as it is clear it came from a corporate blog, and
of course, if people feel uncomfortable they should voice that opinion.
I think it is good to show that a variety of people use Pig, and I mean,
it's not really a surprise that Pig is developed, used, and promoted by
corporations :)
2012/8/17 Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>
> I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one
> thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references
> to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and
> promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of
> interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
>
> > I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
> >
> >
> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
> >
> > Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
> >
> > Russell Jurney
> > twitter.com/rjurney
> > russell.jurney@gmail.com
> > datasyndrome.com
>
>
Re: Pig as Connector with MongoDB and Node.js
Posted by Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com>.
I'm happy to repost these kinds of blog entries on the Pig blog. But one thing we as a community need to decide is how we want to handle references to corporate blogs. My proposal would be that any entries supporting and promoting Apache Pig should be allowed. But I have an obvious conflict of interest here, so I'd like to get other people's inputs.
Alan.
On Aug 16, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Russell Jurney wrote:
> I wrote a Pig tutorial to publish data with Mongo and Node.js.
>
> http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-as-connector-part-one-pig-mongodb-and-node-js
>
> Is it possible to reblog on the Pig blog?
>
> Russell Jurney
> twitter.com/rjurney
> russell.jurney@gmail.com
> datasyndrome.com