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[DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Hi Folks,

At present,
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*

3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
the final stages of staging
As per me,
a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/
?
b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?

Now my questions,
1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
called as stable per release line?
2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when 3.1.3
is getting released now, could http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall
be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it the norms ?

Thanks
Sunil

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by "Elek, Marton" <el...@apache.org>.
To be honest, I have no idea. I don't know about the historical meaning.

But as there is no other feedback, here are my guesses based on pure logic:

  * current -> should point to the release with the highest number (3.2.1)
  * stable -> to the stable 3.x release with the highest number (3.2.1 
as of now)

current2 -> latest 2.x release
stable2 -> latest stable 2.x release

 >> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, 
and 3.2
 >> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
 >> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?

It depends if stable2 = (second highest stable) or (stable from the 2.x 
line). I think the second meaning is more reasonable.

 >> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
 >> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
 >> the norms ?

No. As the stable should point to the highest stable, not to the stable 
which was released recently.

Marton

On 9/30/19 10:09 AM, Sunil Govindan wrote:
> Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
> @Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
> complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.
> 
> - Sunil
> 
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> At present,
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>>
>> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
>> the final stages of staging
>> As per me,
>> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
>> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>>
>> Now my questions,
>> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
>> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
>> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
>> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
>> called as stable per release line?
>> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
>> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
>> the norms ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sunil
>>
> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by "Elek, Marton" <el...@apache.org>.
To be honest, I have no idea. I don't know about the historical meaning.

But as there is no other feedback, here are my guesses based on pure logic:

  * current -> should point to the release with the highest number (3.2.1)
  * stable -> to the stable 3.x release with the highest number (3.2.1 
as of now)

current2 -> latest 2.x release
stable2 -> latest stable 2.x release

 >> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, 
and 3.2
 >> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
 >> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?

It depends if stable2 = (second highest stable) or (stable from the 2.x 
line). I think the second meaning is more reasonable.

 >> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
 >> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
 >> the norms ?

No. As the stable should point to the highest stable, not to the stable 
which was released recently.

Marton

On 9/30/19 10:09 AM, Sunil Govindan wrote:
> Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
> @Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
> complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.
> 
> - Sunil
> 
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> At present,
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>>
>> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
>> the final stages of staging
>> As per me,
>> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
>> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>>
>> Now my questions,
>> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
>> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
>> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
>> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
>> called as stable per release line?
>> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
>> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
>> the norms ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sunil
>>
> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by "Elek, Marton" <el...@apache.org>.
To be honest, I have no idea. I don't know about the historical meaning.

But as there is no other feedback, here are my guesses based on pure logic:

  * current -> should point to the release with the highest number (3.2.1)
  * stable -> to the stable 3.x release with the highest number (3.2.1 
as of now)

current2 -> latest 2.x release
stable2 -> latest stable 2.x release

 >> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, 
and 3.2
 >> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
 >> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?

It depends if stable2 = (second highest stable) or (stable from the 2.x 
line). I think the second meaning is more reasonable.

 >> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
 >> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
 >> the norms ?

No. As the stable should point to the highest stable, not to the stable 
which was released recently.

Marton

On 9/30/19 10:09 AM, Sunil Govindan wrote:
> Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
> @Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
> complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.
> 
> - Sunil
> 
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> At present,
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>>
>> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
>> the final stages of staging
>> As per me,
>> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
>> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>>
>> Now my questions,
>> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
>> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
>> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
>> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
>> called as stable per release line?
>> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
>> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
>> the norms ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sunil
>>
> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by "Elek, Marton" <el...@apache.org>.
To be honest, I have no idea. I don't know about the historical meaning.

But as there is no other feedback, here are my guesses based on pure logic:

  * current -> should point to the release with the highest number (3.2.1)
  * stable -> to the stable 3.x release with the highest number (3.2.1 
as of now)

current2 -> latest 2.x release
stable2 -> latest stable 2.x release

 >> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, 
and 3.2
 >> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
 >> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?

It depends if stable2 = (second highest stable) or (stable from the 2.x 
line). I think the second meaning is more reasonable.

 >> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
 >> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
 >> the norms ?

No. As the stable should point to the highest stable, not to the stable 
which was released recently.

Marton

On 9/30/19 10:09 AM, Sunil Govindan wrote:
> Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
> @Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
> complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.
> 
> - Sunil
> 
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> At present,
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>>
>> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
>> the final stages of staging
>> As per me,
>> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
>> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>>
>> Now my questions,
>> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
>> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
>> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
>> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
>> called as stable per release line?
>> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
>> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
>> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
>> the norms ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sunil
>>
> 

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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org>.
Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
@Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.

- Sunil

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> At present,
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>
> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
> the final stages of staging
> As per me,
> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>
> Now my questions,
> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
> called as stable per release line?
> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
> the norms ?
>
> Thanks
> Sunil
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org>.
Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
@Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.

- Sunil

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> At present,
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>
> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
> the final stages of staging
> As per me,
> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>
> Now my questions,
> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
> called as stable per release line?
> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
> the norms ?
>
> Thanks
> Sunil
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org>.
Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
@Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.

- Sunil

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> At present,
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>
> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
> the final stages of staging
> As per me,
> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>
> Now my questions,
> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
> called as stable per release line?
> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
> the norms ?
>
> Thanks
> Sunil
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Docs pointers Hadoop site

Posted by Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org>.
Bumping up this thread again for feedback.
@Zhankun Tang <zt...@apache.org>  is now waiting for a confirmation to
complete 3.1.3 release publish activities.

- Sunil

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:03 AM Sunil Govindan <su...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> At present,
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/  points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ points to *Apache Hadoop 3.2.1*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable2/  points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current2/ points to *Apache Hadoop 2.9.2*
>
> 3.2.1 is released last day. *Now 3.1.3 has completed voting* and it is in
> the final stages of staging
> As per me,
> a) 3.2.1 will be still be pointing to
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/stable/ ?
> b) 3.1.3 should be pointing to http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ ?
>
> Now my questions,
> 1. But if the release manager of 3.1 line thinks 3.1.3 is stable, and 3.2
> line is also in stable state, which release should get precedence to be
> called as *stable* in any release line (2.x or 3.x) ?
> or do we need a vote or discuss thread to decide which release shall be
> called as stable per release line?
> 2. Given 3.2.1 is released and pointing to 3.2.1 as stable, then when
> 3.1.3 is getting released now, could
> http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/current/ shall be updated to 3.1.3 ? is it
> the norms ?
>
> Thanks
> Sunil
>