Apache Felix Maven plugin

[Peter Kriens <pe...@aqute.biz>]

In the bnd(tools) group We currently are discussing the maven bundle plugin. The idea was raised to build this plugin during the normal continuous integration so we can keep the version current. We are already building another maven plugin in our build and releasing it so it should be quite straightforward for us. This would have the benefit that whenever we release a candidate or a final version we would put it in maven central as quickly as possible. From a logical point of view it seems to make sense to move the Apache Felix Bundle plugin into the bnd build since it is so closely coupled to bnd.

That said, logical is sometimes to rational (and there might be drawbacks we have not considered). Obviously we do not want to do anything that goes against the wishes of the Apache Felix group, we value this group way too highly to offend it so if the feelings here are not abundantly positive then we won't even look in that direction.

Are there any drawbacks? How does this group feel about this?

Kind regards,

	Peter Kriens

Re: Apache Felix Maven plugin

[Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>]

I agree that logically a move of the code base would make sense, however as
Stuart points out this comes with some questions around compatibility
(maven coordinates, package names). A move would only work, if all these
change and we would do kind of a code donation - but then users would have
to at least change the group id in their poms.
On the other hand, we have some work in the maven plugin which is not
directly related to bndtools, so I think there is a need to do a maven
bundle plugin release by people from the current group maintaining it from
time to time, independent of bnd/bndtoosl releases.

I'm not against such a move in general, but we have needs on both sides -
so maybe there is some compromise way which makes everyone happy?

Regards
Carsten


2014-09-02 2:30 GMT+02:00 Stuart McCulloch <mc...@gmail.com>:

> When you say “move … into the bnd build” do you mean check out the source
> from the Apache SCM and build snapshots as part of bndtools CI, or are you
> talking about moving/copying code into the bndtools SCM?
>
> Also note that while you would be free to do your own releases using a
> different groupId, anything released under the Apache groupId would need to
> go through the Apache release process.
>
> On 28 Aug 2014, at 15:56, Peter Kriens <pe...@aqute.biz> wrote:
>
> > In the bnd(tools) group We currently are discussing the maven bundle
> plugin. The idea was raised to build this plugin during the normal
> continuous integration so we can keep the version current. We are already
> building another maven plugin in our build and releasing it so it should be
> quite straightforward for us. This would have the benefit that whenever we
> release a candidate or a final version we would put it in maven central as
> quickly as possible. From a logical point of view it seems to make sense to
> move the Apache Felix Bundle plugin into the bnd build since it is so
> closely coupled to bnd.
> >
> > That said, logical is sometimes to rational (and there might be
> drawbacks we have not considered). Obviously we do not want to do anything
> that goes against the wishes of the Apache Felix group, we value this group
> way too highly to offend it so if the feelings here are not abundantly
> positive then we won't even look in that direction.
> >
> > Are there any drawbacks? How does this group feel about this?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >       Peter Kriens
> >
>
>


-- 
Carsten Ziegeler
Adobe Research Switzerland
cziegeler@apache.org

Re: Apache Felix Maven plugin

[Stuart McCulloch <mc...@gmail.com>]

When you say “move … into the bnd build” do you mean check out the source from the Apache SCM and build snapshots as part of bndtools CI, or are you talking about moving/copying code into the bndtools SCM?

Also note that while you would be free to do your own releases using a different groupId, anything released under the Apache groupId would need to go through the Apache release process.

On 28 Aug 2014, at 15:56, Peter Kriens <pe...@aqute.biz> wrote:

> In the bnd(tools) group We currently are discussing the maven bundle plugin. The idea was raised to build this plugin during the normal continuous integration so we can keep the version current. We are already building another maven plugin in our build and releasing it so it should be quite straightforward for us. This would have the benefit that whenever we release a candidate or a final version we would put it in maven central as quickly as possible. From a logical point of view it seems to make sense to move the Apache Felix Bundle plugin into the bnd build since it is so closely coupled to bnd.
> 
> That said, logical is sometimes to rational (and there might be drawbacks we have not considered). Obviously we do not want to do anything that goes against the wishes of the Apache Felix group, we value this group way too highly to offend it so if the feelings here are not abundantly positive then we won't even look in that direction.
> 
> Are there any drawbacks? How does this group feel about this?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> 	Peter Kriens
>