You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@logging.apache.org by �������������������� ���������������� <ko...@gmail.com> on 2021/06/29 15:29:55 UTC
Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Hi Team,
Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server from logging-log4j-tools project?
Best regards,
Kostyantyn
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hm, I might be missing some context. I thought this thread about releasing
a component, then someone brings up message queuing ("pub/sub"), now a web
browser? I'm missing something for sure!
Gary
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 14:02 Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Umm, how would you use JMS from the browser? Mosquitto looks like it might
> have
> more promise since it supports TLS and OAuth, but from a quick glance it
> appears it
> is its own protocol, not something that sits on top of HTTP, so it might
> be more challenging
> to use through a public firewall.
>
> To be honest, getting stuff from a mobile device to the backend seems like
> the only
> real use case for a log4j logging service. There are too many good options
> already for log
> aggregation of backend services.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > We already have support for JMS, this is a simple as possible set up.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 11:49 Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would rather advise to not reinvent the wheel of tcp communication but
> >> implement some simplistic mqtt appender that transports log events as
> json
> >> serialized messages.
> >>
> >> In combination with a broker like mosquitto it provides secure
> >> communication, temporary peristent storage and many more advantages of
> >> pub/sub systems like multiple log event consumers and such.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> --
> >> Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find
> >> them.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 20:46 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> FWIW, we use the server at work to listen to JSON log events. There is
> >>> definitely value there.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 13:29 Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want
> >> to
> >>>> copy and modify,
> >>>> so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been
> >>> asked
> >>>> about being
> >>>> able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely
> >>>> (https with OAuth
> >>>> tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to
> >>>> support this kind of
> >>>> stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON
> >> Template
> >>>> Layout to
> >>>> deserialize the log events.
> >>>>
> >>>> If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we
> >>> would
> >>>> want to
> >>>> release and formally support.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <
> >>>> kosto.dba@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Team,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server
> >>>> from logging-log4j-tools project?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Kostyantyn
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Umm, how would you use JMS from the browser? Mosquitto looks like it might have
more promise since it supports TLS and OAuth, but from a quick glance it appears it
is its own protocol, not something that sits on top of HTTP, so it might be more challenging
to use through a public firewall.
To be honest, getting stuff from a mobile device to the backend seems like the only
real use case for a log4j logging service. There are too many good options already for log
aggregation of backend services.
Ralph
> On Jul 4, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We already have support for JMS, this is a simple as possible set up.
>
> Gary
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 11:49 Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would rather advise to not reinvent the wheel of tcp communication but
>> implement some simplistic mqtt appender that transports log events as json
>> serialized messages.
>>
>> In combination with a broker like mosquitto it provides secure
>> communication, temporary peristent storage and many more advantages of
>> pub/sub systems like multiple log event consumers and such.
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find
>> them.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 20:46 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, we use the server at work to listen to JSON log events. There is
>>> definitely value there.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 13:29 Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want
>> to
>>>> copy and modify,
>>>> so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
>>>>
>>>> On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been
>>> asked
>>>> about being
>>>> able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely
>>>> (https with OAuth
>>>> tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to
>>>> support this kind of
>>>> stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON
>> Template
>>>> Layout to
>>>> deserialize the log events.
>>>>
>>>> If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we
>>> would
>>>> want to
>>>> release and formally support.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <
>>>> kosto.dba@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server
>>>> from logging-log4j-tools project?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Kostyantyn
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
We already have support for JMS, this is a simple as possible set up.
Gary
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, 11:49 Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would rather advise to not reinvent the wheel of tcp communication but
> implement some simplistic mqtt appender that transports log events as json
> serialized messages.
>
> In combination with a broker like mosquitto it provides secure
> communication, temporary peristent storage and many more advantages of
> pub/sub systems like multiple log event consumers and such.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find
> them.
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 20:46 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, we use the server at work to listen to JSON log events. There is
> > definitely value there.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 13:29 Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want
> to
> > > copy and modify,
> > > so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
> > >
> > > On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been
> > asked
> > > about being
> > > able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely
> > > (https with OAuth
> > > tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to
> > > support this kind of
> > > stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON
> Template
> > > Layout to
> > > deserialize the log events.
> > >
> > > If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we
> > would
> > > want to
> > > release and formally support.
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > > > On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <
> > > kosto.dba@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Team,
> > > >
> > > > Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server
> > > from logging-log4j-tools project?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Kostyantyn
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I would rather advise to not reinvent the wheel of tcp communication but
implement some simplistic mqtt appender that transports log events as json
serialized messages.
In combination with a broker like mosquitto it provides secure
communication, temporary peristent storage and many more advantages of
pub/sub systems like multiple log event consumers and such.
Cheers
--
Sent from my phone. Typos are a kind gift to anyone who happens to find
them.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 20:46 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, we use the server at work to listen to JSON log events. There is
> definitely value there.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 13:29 Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want to
> > copy and modify,
> > so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
> >
> > On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been
> asked
> > about being
> > able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely
> > (https with OAuth
> > tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to
> > support this kind of
> > stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON Template
> > Layout to
> > deserialize the log events.
> >
> > If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we
> would
> > want to
> > release and formally support.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > > On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <
> > kosto.dba@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server
> > from logging-log4j-tools project?
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Kostyantyn
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
FWIW, we use the server at work to listen to JSON log events. There is
definitely value there.
Gary
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 13:29 Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want to
> copy and modify,
> so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
>
> On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been asked
> about being
> able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely
> (https with OAuth
> tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to
> support this kind of
> stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON Template
> Layout to
> deserialize the log events.
>
> If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we would
> want to
> release and formally support.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <
> kosto.dba@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server
> from logging-log4j-tools project?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kostyantyn
> >
>
>
>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
I had a thought recently that this mobile client sending logs problem
could potentially be modelled using gRPC. This would make it simple
for generating stubs (clients) for iOS/Android and server code for
whatever language you want. There's also Apache Thrift which does the
same thing except with more programming languages supported.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 12:29 PM Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want to copy and modify,
> so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
>
> On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been asked about being
> able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely (https with OAuth
> tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to support this kind of
> stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON Template Layout to
> deserialize the log events.
>
> If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we would want to
> release and formally support.
>
> Ralph
>
> > On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server from logging-log4j-tools project?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kostyantyn
> >
>
>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Right now the server is more or less a sample we expect you will want to copy and modify,
so releasing it doesn’t have a lot of value.
On the “Online Drinks” call this weekend I mentioned that I had been asked about being
able to send logs from mobile devices to a backend collector securely (https with OAuth
tokens). I’ve been thinking about enhancing the server to be able to support this kind of
stuff as well as being able to provide something similar to JSON Template Layout to
deserialize the log events.
If that happens then I would expect the server would be something we would want to
release and formally support.
Ralph
> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Кон�тантин Кракович <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Team,
>
> Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server from logging-log4j-tools project?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Kostyantyn
>
Re: Any plans to release log4j TCP server?
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
I would like that as well, but I am short on time as well.
Gary
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 11:43 Константин Кракович <ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> Could you please let me know if you have plans to release TCP server from
> logging-log4j-tools project?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Kostyantyn
>