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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>
> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>
> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>

I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?

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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Seb,
as you said, maybe they are not useful, BTW if they don't cause any
conflict, I don't see blocking issues, so +1 for the move.
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>
>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>
>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>
>
> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I already experienced twice adapting existing styles[1][2] to maven
site, if there's a style you like that you would like to see as Maven
skin, please let me know, a try worths the value!
Simo

[1] http://sourcesense.github.com/solr-packager/
[2] http://developers.any23.org/

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Niall Pemberton
> <ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful:
>> http://directory.apache.org/
>> >
>> > What can't we do something like that?
>>
>> Well some of us are not capable! What we have is practical and we
>> don't have to put any effort into. I wouldn't want to expend any
>> energy on it. Having said that, if someone has the skills and the
>> inclination, then great - I'd appreciate it.
>>
>
> I disagree, we are all capable to learn and do anything! :) Speaking for
> myself, I have not taken the time to learn this topic and apply myself to
> make it more beautiful. :)
>
> Gary
>
>
>> Niall
>>
>> > Gary
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>> >> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is
>> acting
>> >> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah OK.
>> >> >
>> >> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>> >> >
>> >> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>> >> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>> >> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>> >> > and not change the CSS.
>> >>
>> >> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
>> >> won't need to change.
>> >> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>> >>
>> >> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>> >> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>> >> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>> >> > re-deploy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>> >>
>> >> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
>> >> commons-skin updates.
>> >>
>> >> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
>> >> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
>> >> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
>> >> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>> >>
>> >> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
>> >> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
>> >> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
>> >> that would be confusing.]
>> >>
>> >> > Niall
>> >> >
>> >> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>> >> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>> >> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>> >> >> uses Maven 1).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>> >> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>> >> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>> >> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>> >> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css
>> file.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>> >> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>> >> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Niall
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
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>> >
>> >
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>> > Gary
>> >
>> > http://garygregory.wordpress.com/
>> > http://garygregory.com/
>> > http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
>> > http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
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>
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> Gary
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful:
> http://directory.apache.org/
> >
> > What can't we do something like that?
>
> Well some of us are not capable! What we have is practical and we
> don't have to put any effort into. I wouldn't want to expend any
> energy on it. Having said that, if someone has the skills and the
> inclination, then great - I'd appreciate it.
>

I disagree, we are all capable to learn and do anything! :) Speaking for
myself, I have not taken the time to learn this topic and apply myself to
make it more beautiful. :)

Gary


> Niall
>
> > Gary
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
> >> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is
> acting
> >> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
> >> >
> >> > Ah OK.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
> >> >
> >> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
> >> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
> >> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
> >> > and not change the CSS.
> >>
> >> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
> >> won't need to change.
> >> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
> >>
> >> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
> >> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
> >> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
> >> > re-deploy.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
> >>
> >> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
> >> commons-skin updates.
> >>
> >> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
> >> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
> >> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
> >> may also affect release documentation used offline.
> >>
> >> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
> >> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
> >> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
> >> that would be confusing.]
> >>
> >> > Niall
> >> >
> >> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
> >> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
> >> >>
> >> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
> >> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
> >> >> uses Maven 1).
> >> >>
> >> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
> >> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
> >> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
> >> >>
> >> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
> >> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
> >> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css
> file.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
> >> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
> >> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
> >> >>
> >> >>> Niall
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>
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> >> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you,
> > Gary
> >
> > http://garygregory.wordpress.com/
> > http://garygregory.com/
> > http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
> > http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/
>
> What can't we do something like that?

Well some of us are not capable! What we have is practical and we
don't have to put any effort into. I wouldn't want to expend any
energy on it. Having said that, if someone has the skills and the
inclination, then great - I'd appreciate it.

Niall

> Gary
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>> >>>
>> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>> >>
>> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>> >
>> > Ah OK.
>> >
>> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>> >
>> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>> > and not change the CSS.
>>
>> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
>> won't need to change.
>> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>>
>> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>> > re-deploy.
>> >
>> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>>
>> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
>> commons-skin updates.
>>
>> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
>> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
>> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
>> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>>
>> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
>> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
>> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
>> that would be confusing.]
>>
>> > Niall
>> >
>> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>> >>
>> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>> >> uses Maven 1).
>> >>
>> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>> >>
>> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>> >>
>> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
>> >>
>> >>> Niall
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
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>
>
> --
> Thank you,
> Gary
>
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> http://garygregory.com/
> http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
I've never been a fan of battleship gray as a color... :)

Gary

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:

> Hi Gary/all
> I don't know if you're interested, but I realized time ago a light
> skin[1] that is already released under ASL2.0, here[2] you can find a
> sample, if you are interested on it we could speak about moving it as
> new commons-skin...
> Just let me know, have a nice day!
> Simo
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/fluido-skin/
> [2] http://developers.any23.org/
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful:
> http://directory.apache.org/
> >
> > What can't we do something like that?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
> >> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is
> acting
> >> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
> >> >
> >> > Ah OK.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
> >> >
> >> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
> >> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
> >> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
> >> > and not change the CSS.
> >>
> >> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
> >> won't need to change.
> >> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
> >>
> >> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
> >> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
> >> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
> >> > re-deploy.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
> >>
> >> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
> >> commons-skin updates.
> >>
> >> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
> >> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
> >> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
> >> may also affect release documentation used offline.
> >>
> >> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
> >> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
> >> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
> >> that would be confusing.]
> >>
> >> > Niall
> >> >
> >> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
> >> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
> >> >>
> >> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
> >> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
> >> >> uses Maven 1).
> >> >>
> >> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
> >> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
> >> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
> >> >>
> >> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
> >> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
> >> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css
> file.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
> >> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
> >> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
> >> >>
> >> >>> Niall
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you,
> > Gary
> >
> > http://garygregory.wordpress.com/
> > http://garygregory.com/
> > http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
> > http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >
>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4 March 2011 06:45, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Gary/all
> > I don't know if you're interested, but I realized time ago a light
> > skin[1] that is already released under ASL2.0, here[2] you can find a
> > sample, if you are interested on it we could speak about moving it as
> > new commons-skin...
>
> We cannot use it as it stands.
>
> Its site.vm template does not support the trademark attributions we
> need to add to the footer, and AFAIK Maven only allows the template to
> be overridden as part of a skin.
>
> If the default Maven template is ever fixed to allow proper footer
> (and other) customisation, then it would be usable, but I doubt that
> will happen soon.
>

How about submitting a patch to Maven?

Gary


>
> > Just let me know, have a nice day!
> > Simo
> >
> > [1] http://code.google.com/p/fluido-skin/
> > [2] http://developers.any23.org/
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> > http://www.99soft.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful:
> http://directory.apache.org/
> >>
> >> What can't we do something like that?
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
> >>> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site -
> OK?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is
> acting
> >>> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ah OK.
> >>> >
> >>> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
> >>> >
> >>> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo
> in
> >>> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
> >>> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
> >>> > and not change the CSS.
> >>>
> >>> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
> >>> won't need to change.
> >>> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
> >>>
> >>> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
> >>> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
> >>> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
> >>> > re-deploy.
> >>> >
> >>> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
> >>>
> >>> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
> >>> commons-skin updates.
> >>>
> >>> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
> >>> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
> >>> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
> >>> may also affect release documentation used offline.
> >>>
> >>> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
> >>> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
> >>> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
> >>> that would be confusing.]
> >>>
> >>> > Niall
> >>> >
> >>> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
> >>> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
> >>> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
> >>> >> uses Maven 1).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
> >>> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
> >>> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
> >>> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
> >>> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css
> file.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in
> commons-site,
> >>> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
> >>> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Niall
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
> >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
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> >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thank you,
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> http://garygregory.wordpress.com/
> >> http://garygregory.com/
> >> http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
> >> http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> >>
> >
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
Not sure we can use it, because one of the files is GPL.
The skin is released under AL 2.0, but I'm not sure that is correct.

On 4 March 2011 16:05, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> sorry to had not clear, my bad, I didn't mean to use that skin
> directly, but import the css files, kind of donation, BTW it's my skin
> I don't have to ask nobody if we can or cannot use it :)
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:29 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4 March 2011 06:45, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Gary/all
>>> I don't know if you're interested, but I realized time ago a light
>>> skin[1] that is already released under ASL2.0, here[2] you can find a
>>> sample, if you are interested on it we could speak about moving it as
>>> new commons-skin...
>>
>> We cannot use it as it stands.
>>
>> Its site.vm template does not support the trademark attributions we
>> need to add to the footer, and AFAIK Maven only allows the template to
>> be overridden as part of a skin.
>>
>> If the default Maven template is ever fixed to allow proper footer
>> (and other) customisation, then it would be usable, but I doubt that
>> will happen soon.
>>
>>> Just let me know, have a nice day!
>>> Simo
>>>
>>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/fluido-skin/
>>> [2] http://developers.any23.org/
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/
>>>>
>>>> What can't we do something like that?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>>>> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>>>>> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ah OK.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>>>>> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>>>>> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>>>>> > and not change the CSS.
>>>>>
>>>>> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
>>>>> won't need to change.
>>>>> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>>>>>
>>>>> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>>>>> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>>>>> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>>>>> > re-deploy.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
>>>>> commons-skin updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
>>>>> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
>>>>> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
>>>>> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
>>>>> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
>>>>> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
>>>>> that would be confusing.]
>>>>>
>>>>> > Niall
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>>>>> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>>>>> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>>>>> >> uses Maven 1).
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>>>>> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>>>>> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>>>>> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>>>>> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>>>>> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>>>>> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Niall
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>>>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> http://garygregory.wordpress.com/
>>>> http://garygregory.com/
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
>>>> http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>>>
>>>
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
sorry to had not clear, my bad, I didn't mean to use that skin
directly, but import the css files, kind of donation, BTW it's my skin
I don't have to ask nobody if we can or cannot use it :)
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:29 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4 March 2011 06:45, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Gary/all
>> I don't know if you're interested, but I realized time ago a light
>> skin[1] that is already released under ASL2.0, here[2] you can find a
>> sample, if you are interested on it we could speak about moving it as
>> new commons-skin...
>
> We cannot use it as it stands.
>
> Its site.vm template does not support the trademark attributions we
> need to add to the footer, and AFAIK Maven only allows the template to
> be overridden as part of a skin.
>
> If the default Maven template is ever fixed to allow proper footer
> (and other) customisation, then it would be usable, but I doubt that
> will happen soon.
>
>> Just let me know, have a nice day!
>> Simo
>>
>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/fluido-skin/
>> [2] http://developers.any23.org/
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/
>>>
>>> What can't we do something like that?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>>> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>>>> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ah OK.
>>>> >
>>>> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>>>> >
>>>> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>>>> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>>>> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>>>> > and not change the CSS.
>>>>
>>>> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
>>>> won't need to change.
>>>> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>>>>
>>>> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>>>> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>>>> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>>>> > re-deploy.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>>>>
>>>> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
>>>> commons-skin updates.
>>>>
>>>> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
>>>> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
>>>> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
>>>> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>>>>
>>>> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
>>>> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
>>>> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
>>>> that would be confusing.]
>>>>
>>>> > Niall
>>>> >
>>>> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>>>> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>>>> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>>>> >> uses Maven 1).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>>>> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>>>> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>>>> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>>>> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>>>> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>>>> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Niall
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thank you,
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> http://garygregory.wordpress.com/
>>> http://garygregory.com/
>>> http://people.apache.org/~ggregory/
>>> http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>>
>>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 4 March 2011 06:45, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Gary/all
> I don't know if you're interested, but I realized time ago a light
> skin[1] that is already released under ASL2.0, here[2] you can find a
> sample, if you are interested on it we could speak about moving it as
> new commons-skin...

We cannot use it as it stands.

Its site.vm template does not support the trademark attributions we
need to add to the footer, and AFAIK Maven only allows the template to
be overridden as part of a skin.

If the default Maven template is ever fixed to allow proper footer
(and other) customisation, then it would be usable, but I doubt that
will happen soon.

> Just let me know, have a nice day!
> Simo
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/fluido-skin/
> [2] http://developers.any23.org/
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/
>>
>> What can't we do something like that?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>>> >>
>>> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>>> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>>> >
>>> > Ah OK.
>>> >
>>> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>>> >
>>> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>>> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>>> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>>> > and not change the CSS.
>>>
>>> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
>>> won't need to change.
>>> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>>>
>>> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>>> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>>> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>>> > re-deploy.
>>> >
>>> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>>>
>>> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
>>> commons-skin updates.
>>>
>>> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
>>> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
>>> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
>>> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>>>
>>> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
>>> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
>>> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
>>> that would be confusing.]
>>>
>>> > Niall
>>> >
>>> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>>> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>>> >>
>>> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>>> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>>> >> uses Maven 1).
>>> >>
>>> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>>> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>>> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>>> >>
>>> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>>> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>>> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>>> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>>> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
>>> >>
>>> >>> Niall
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Gary/all
I don't know if you're interested, but I realized time ago a light
skin[1] that is already released under ASL2.0, here[2] you can find a
sample, if you are interested on it we could speak about moving it as
new commons-skin...
Just let me know, have a nice day!
Simo

[1] http://code.google.com/p/fluido-skin/
[2] http://developers.any23.org/

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On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/
>
> What can't we do something like that?
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>> >>>
>> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>> >>
>> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>> >
>> > Ah OK.
>> >
>> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>> >
>> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>> > and not change the CSS.
>>
>> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
>> won't need to change.
>> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>>
>> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>> > re-deploy.
>> >
>> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>>
>> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
>> commons-skin updates.
>>
>> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
>> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
>> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
>> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>>
>> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
>> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
>> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
>> that would be confusing.]
>>
>> > Niall
>> >
>> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>> >>
>> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>> >> uses Maven 1).
>> >>
>> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>> >>
>> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>> >>
>> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
>> >>
>> >>> Niall
>> >>>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Emmanuel Bourg <eb...@apache.org>.
Le 04/03/2011 03:08, Gary Gregory a écrit :
> Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/
>
> What can't we do something like that?

+1 !

A refreshed skin would be welcome.

Emmanuel Bourg


Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Speaking of skins... IMO, this looks beautiful: http://directory.apache.org/

What can't we do something like that?

Gary

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
> >>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
> >>>
> >>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
> >>
> >> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
> >> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
> >
> > Ah OK.
> >
> > I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
> >
> > I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
> > the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
> > (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
> > and not change the CSS.
>
> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
> won't need to change.
> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>
> > If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
> > wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
> > & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
> > re-deploy.
> >
> > Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>
> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
> commons-skin updates.
>
> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>
> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
> that would be confusing.]
>
> > Niall
> >
> >> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
> >> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
> >>
> >> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
> >> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
> >> uses Maven 1).
> >>
> >> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
> >> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
> >> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
> >>
> >> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
> >> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
> >> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
> >>
> >> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
> >> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
> >> This will make changes easier going forward.
> >>
> >>> Niall
> >>>
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> >>>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 4 March 2011 01:55, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>>>>
>>>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>>>
>>> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>>> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>>
>> Ah OK.
>>
>> I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>>
>> I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
>> the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
>> (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
>> and not change the CSS.
>
> ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
> won't need to change.
> It can be overridden on a component basis if required.
>
>> If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
>> wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
>> & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
>> re-deploy.
>>
>> Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.
>
> No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
> commons-skin updates.
>
> At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
> @includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
> This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
> may also affect release documentation used offline.
>
> So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
> commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
> [Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
> that would be confusing.]

OK, I've done that.

Generated sites now look OK for all images - except the Commons logo,
which is converted to a relative reference that is below the generated
site.

Maybe it would be best to include commons logo in the skin as well -
this would allow offline sites to work properly.

Any objections?

>> Niall
>>
>>> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>>> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>>>
>>> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>>> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>>> uses Maven 1).
>>>
>>> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>>> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>>> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>>>
>>> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>>> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>>> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>>>
>>> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>>> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>>> This will make changes easier going forward.
>>>
>>>> Niall
>>>>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 4 March 2011 00:49, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>>>
>>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>>
>> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
>> as the storage for the shared CSS files.
>
> Ah OK.
>
> I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?
>
> I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
> the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
> (current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
> and not change the CSS.

ApacheCon is now in (parent) site.xml, but is fixed, and hopefully
won't need to change.
It can be overridden on a component basis if required.

> If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
> wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
> & parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
> re-deploy.
>
> Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.

No worries, it's useful to discuss this before finalising the
commons-skin updates.

At present, site.css is included in commons-skin, and site.css
@includes http://commons.apache.org/style/commons-maven.css.
This means that sites don't work off-line properly when testing - and
may also affect release documentation used offline.

So I now think your idea is best - let's put commons-maven.css in
commons-skin and change site.css accordingly.
[Or indeed one could rename commons-maven.css as site.css, but I think
that would be confusing.]

> Niall
>
>> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
>> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>>
>> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
>> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
>> uses Maven 1).
>>
>> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
>> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
>> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>>
>> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
>> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
>> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>>
>> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
>> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
>> This will make changes easier going forward.
>>
>>> Niall
>>>
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Re: [SITE] commons-build - is it still used?

Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:35 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>>>
>>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>>
>> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?
>
> Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
> as the storage for the shared CSS files.

Ah OK.

I wonder why we just didn't put that in commons skin?

I think originally we used to update the name of the ApacheCon logo in
the CSS. But then we changed the logo to a generic name
(current-event-125x125.png) and so we just have to replace the image
and not change the CSS.

If thats the case then it could go in commons-skin. However if we
wanted to change the CSS, then if its in commons-skin it needs a skin
& parent pom release - wheras commons-site its just a commit and
re-deploy.

Sorry for thinking out loud, I think I agree with you.

Niall

> If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
> redeploy commons-site and all the components.
>
> It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
> stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
> uses Maven 1).
>
> And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
> style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
> then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.
>
> The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
> version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
> This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.
>
> I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
> so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
> This will make changes easier going forward.
>
>> Niall
>>
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Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 3 March 2011 23:42, Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>>
>>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>>
>>
>> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?
>
> Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?

Commons site is working currently because people.apache.org is acting
as the storage for the shared CSS files.
If the site ever had to be recreated, it would not be enough to
redeploy commons-site and all the components.

It just seems wrong to have the source for some of the key CSS files
stored in an component that cannot easily be deployed (commons-build
uses Maven 1).

And even if one did deploy it, AFAICT the only useful output is the
style directory - the rest seems to be old documentation that would
then have to be overwritten by deploying commons-site.

The reason I need to do this now is that I need to create a new
version of commons-theme.css without the ApacheCon background logo.
This will be referenced in the new commons-skin via the site.css file.

I think it makes more sense to store the style files in commons-site,
so they will be uploaded whenever the commons-site is redeployed.
This will make changes easier going forward.

> Niall
>
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Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26 February 2011 22:39, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Commons-build seems to be Maven1 code - is it still needed?
>>
>> It does seem to be the source for commons-maven.css and perhaps
>> tigris.css, but otherwise does not seem to be useful.
>>
>> Perhaps the CSS files should be moved to commons-site?
>>
>
> I propose to move the xdocs/style/*.css files to commons-site - OK?

Why move them? Commons Site is working without them isn't it?

Niall

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