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JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Hi Sharan,
Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every
community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner
is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this
something the ASF can do?
NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
Regards,
KAM
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
Your memory is correct. This is the same event that Ignasi approached us
about. It just wasn't a fit for the ASF Model for conferences.
Regards,
KAM
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:27 PM <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Kevin
>
> Thanks for the email and this actually seems familiar. If its the event
> I'm thinking of they might have already approached us to have an Apache
> track or something. Let me check with Ignasi just in case I've got mixed up.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 11. 02. 19 22:22, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>
> Hi Sharan,
>
> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
>
> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
>
> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every
> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner
> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this
> something the ASF can do?
>
> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
>
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Kevin
Yes it was the one I thought it was. Here is the link to the discussion thread we previously had about it.
https://s.apache.org/sMqD
We need to get an update to see what the status is of the potential co-location too.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2019/02/11 21:27:10, sharan@apache.org wrote:
> Hi Kevin
>
> Thanks for the email and this actually seems familiar. If its the event
> I'm thinking of they might have already approached us to have an Apache
> track or something. Let me check with Ignasi just in case I've got mixed up.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 11. 02. 19 22:22, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > Hi Sharan,
> >
> > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
> >
> > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
> >
> > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
> > every community represented there. The responsibilities of the
> > community partner is to share the conference with members to help with
> > promotion. Is this something the ASF can do?
> >
> > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by sh...@apache.org.
Hi Kevin
Thanks for the email and this actually seems familiar. If its the event
I'm thinking of they might have already approached us to have an Apache
track or something. Let me check with Ignasi just in case I've got mixed up.
Thanks
Sharan
On 11. 02. 19 22:22, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> Hi Sharan,
>
> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
>
> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
>
> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
> every community represented there. The responsibilities of the
> community partner is to share the conference with members to help with
> promotion. Is this something the ASF can do?
>
> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
Yes, the way that conversation unfolded was regretable, muddled, and
misleading. I apologize for how that all unfolded.
Clearer policies, and documentation, of what kinds of events we are able
to support, and exactly how we can support them, are a must going
forward. And that's on me.
Regarding JBCNConf, I have some tweets scheduled, and will update that
as soon as we have a published schedule. I will look to you for help
identifying which talks we want to highlight.
Thanks.
On 2/12/19 4:10 AM, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> Please, s/Ignaci/Ignasi/
>
> I've been talking to Jonathan too. As a not-for-profit event, they really
> wanted to have some open source community presence there, and they came up
> with this new proposal to see if that would make sense for Apache.
>
> Just to be clear, I'm not mad at anyone, nor I'm unhappy with your
> declining to put money into this event. I fully understand the reasons and
> I'm the kind of person that understands a no. I was disappointed by how the
> conversations here, inside the ASF, were broken and became a real blocker
> to shaping a proper collaboration plan. But that doesn't mean I'm mad at
> anyone or that I take things personally. I am (and will be) always open to
> talk to anyone so please, don't project that image of me, especially on a
> public list.
>
> This said, I felt bad about the poor communication experience we initially
> delivered to them, and I offered to join their volunteer group and give a
> hand on the organization of the event, so although I will be there, I can't
> commit to staffing the booth full-time. I'll be more than happy to help
> with the logistics, setting it up (I also still have some stickers and a
> feather rollout, if we are allowed to use it), and being there at the booth
> when time allows, but I can't commit to staffing it full-time.
>
> Regarding Twitter, I'd suggest we promote any talk that is about an Apache
> project, even if the speaker is not an Apache contributor. The event will
> have high-profile speakers and lots of Java Champions, and IMO having
> Apache related talks there is a great way to put the projects on the radar
> of cool and relevant technologies today (my $0.02 with this regard).
>
>
> You can count on my help, taking into account the mentioned limitations.
>
>
> I.
>
>
> P.S. I also submitted a talk, although it is not related to Apache
>
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 22:43, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
>> If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find
>> someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know
>> he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put
>> money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him
>> about it.
>>
>> On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>>> That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the
>>> information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared
>>> booth?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content
>>>> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that
>>>> content.
>>>>
>>>> --Rich
>>>>
>>>> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
>>>> every
>>>>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community
>>>> partner
>>>>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is
>> this
>>>>> something the ASF can do?
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> KAM
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
>>>> http://rcbowen.com/
>>>> @rbowen
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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>> http://rcbowen.com/
>> @rbowen
>>
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org>.
Please, s/Ignaci/Ignasi/
I've been talking to Jonathan too. As a not-for-profit event, they really
wanted to have some open source community presence there, and they came up
with this new proposal to see if that would make sense for Apache.
Just to be clear, I'm not mad at anyone, nor I'm unhappy with your
declining to put money into this event. I fully understand the reasons and
I'm the kind of person that understands a no. I was disappointed by how the
conversations here, inside the ASF, were broken and became a real blocker
to shaping a proper collaboration plan. But that doesn't mean I'm mad at
anyone or that I take things personally. I am (and will be) always open to
talk to anyone so please, don't project that image of me, especially on a
public list.
This said, I felt bad about the poor communication experience we initially
delivered to them, and I offered to join their volunteer group and give a
hand on the organization of the event, so although I will be there, I can't
commit to staffing the booth full-time. I'll be more than happy to help
with the logistics, setting it up (I also still have some stickers and a
feather rollout, if we are allowed to use it), and being there at the booth
when time allows, but I can't commit to staffing it full-time.
Regarding Twitter, I'd suggest we promote any talk that is about an Apache
project, even if the speaker is not an Apache contributor. The event will
have high-profile speakers and lots of Java Champions, and IMO having
Apache related talks there is a great way to put the projects on the radar
of cool and relevant technologies today (my $0.02 with this regard).
You can count on my help, taking into account the mentioned limitations.
I.
P.S. I also submitted a talk, although it is not related to Apache
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 22:43, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find
> someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know
> he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put
> money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him
> about it.
>
> On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the
> > information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared
> > booth?
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content
> >> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that
> >> content.
> >>
> >> --Rich
> >>
> >> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >>> Hi Sharan,
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
> >>>
> >>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
> >>>
> >>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
> >> every
> >>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community
> >> partner
> >>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is
> this
> >>> something the ASF can do?
> >>>
> >>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> KAM
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> >> http://rcbowen.com/
> >> @rbowen
> >>
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> >>
> >
>
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> http://rcbowen.com/
> @rbowen
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
on it.
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:43 PM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find
> someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know
> he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put
> money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him
> about it.
>
> On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the
> > information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared
> > booth?
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content
> >> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that
> >> content.
> >>
> >> --Rich
> >>
> >> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >>> Hi Sharan,
> >>>
> >>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
> >>>
> >>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
> >>>
> >>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
> >> every
> >>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community
> >> partner
> >>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is
> this
> >>> something the ASF can do?
> >>>
> >>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> KAM
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> >> http://rcbowen.com/
> >> @rbowen
> >>
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> >>
> >
>
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
If we want to take advantage of the booth, then, yeah, we'd need to find
someone to staff it. I expect that Ignaci will be attending, but I know
he's less than happy with us (well, me) about our (my) declining to put
money into the event, so probably someone else should talk with him
about it.
On 2/11/19 4:36 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the
> information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared
> booth?
>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content
>> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that
>> content.
>>
>> --Rich
>>
>> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>
>>> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
>>>
>>> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
>>>
>>> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
>> every
>>> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community
>> partner
>>> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this
>>> something the ASF can do?
>>>
>>> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
>> http://rcbowen.com/
>> @rbowen
>>
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
That's great Rich, thanks. Anything Jonathan needs to do? Get you the
information to send out? Pick someone to represent the ASF at the shared
booth?
--
Kevin A. McGrail
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content
> scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that
> content.
>
> --Rich
>
> On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > Hi Sharan,
> >
> > Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
> >
> > The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
> >
> > Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for
> every
> > community represented there. The responsibilities of the community
> partner
> > is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this
> > something the ASF can do?
> >
> > NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> http://rcbowen.com/
> @rbowen
>
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Re: JBCNConf Request for Community Partnership
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
Yes, we do intend to promote this event. We already have Twitter content
scheduled, and would be glad to add your talk (if accepted) to that content.
--Rich
On 2/11/19 4:22 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> Hi Sharan,
>
> Jonathan Vila, cc'd, is organizing https://www.jbcnconf.com/
>
> The are looking for the ASF to be a community partner.
>
> Community Partners will share 1 free stand and get 1 free ticket for every
> community represented there. The responsibilities of the community partner
> is to share the conference with members to help with promotion. Is this
> something the ASF can do?
>
> NOTE: I've submitted a talk for the event
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
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