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[OT] Automated testing frameworks?
Hi,
First - sorry for the fairly OT post.
Im wondering if anyone knows of any automated WS integration testing
tools.
Basically what I want to be able to do is exercise a set of WS calls and
be able to make assertions on the responses.
Ideally, I'd also like to be able to pick out parts of the response to
use as parameters in subsequent requests.
(E.g, Asking for a list of Products in one invocation, and then issuing
a further call to ask about details of a specific product, using one of
the IDs returned from the first message).
What Im thinking is maybe something like Apache Latka but for WS. E.g,
maybe expectations and calls are defined in a config file, and behind
the scenes stubs are generated from WSDL, and the config mapped
(probably reflection or code gen stylee) on to invocations.
I suppose what Im trying to get to is an automated (and non-gui) based
integration tool for WS which doesn't put much burden on developers when
new operations from the WSDL are to be tested.
Does anyone know if anything like this exists? Or if it doesn't, whether
it would actually be a useful tool to have?
Cheers,
Dave
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Re: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
Irving, Dave wrote:
> Hi,
>
> First - sorry for the fairly OT post.
> Im wondering if anyone knows of any automated WS integration testing
> tools.
> Basically what I want to be able to do is exercise a set of WS calls and
> be able to make assertions on the responses.
> Ideally, I'd also like to be able to pick out parts of the response to
> use as parameters in subsequent requests.
> (E.g, Asking for a list of Products in one invocation, and then issuing
> a further call to ask about details of a specific product, using one of
> the IDs returned from the first message).
> What Im thinking is maybe something like Apache Latka but for WS. E.g,
> maybe expectations and calls are defined in a config file, and behind
> the scenes stubs are generated from WSDL, and the config mapped
> (probably reflection or code gen stylee) on to invocations.
> I suppose what Im trying to get to is an automated (and non-gui) based
> integration tool for WS which doesn't put much burden on developers when
> new operations from the WSDL are to be tested.
>
> Does anyone know if anything like this exists? Or if it doesn't, whether
> it would actually be a useful tool to have?
>
First, I will draw your attention to a talk I gave two weeks ago,
showing distributed testing including interop testing of WSRF stacks:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4478242864801668108&q=ltac
You should also check out some of the other talks, including the
selenium and fitness stuff, which have test suites driven by wikis and
HTML pages, rather than java code.
But I'm somewhat fond of writing tests against an endpoint in Java,
because that really tests the client API that you have to write too. And
you can write nunit tests in C# to test that language too, so you can be
sure of interop. If you are testing from a third party library, then,
unless that library compiles down to Sun JAX-WS RI, Axis2, .NET clients,
then you arent going to be sure of interop. Now, if you have a test
library that does that from wiki text entries, well, you have something
pretty unique.
What may be useful and easier to write is something a bit like HttpUnit;
helper classes to make it easier to test your endpoint from junit or
testng tests. Even so, you are probably biasing towards a particular
SOAP client stack, unless you use 'pure' JAX-WS API calls.
-steve
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Re: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
Posted by Badri Narayanan Sugavanam <bn...@gmail.com>.
You can try Jmeter , but will not that help in functional testing
On 9/19/06, Irving, Dave <da...@logicacmg.com> wrote:
> Badri Narayanan Sugavanam [mailto:bnarayanan@gmail.com] wrote:
>
>
> > You can try
> > http://soaplite.com/download.html
>
> Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I've got to stick with java on this
> one though :o(
>
> Dave
>
>
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RE: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
Posted by "Irving, Dave" <da...@logicacmg.com>.
Badri Narayanan Sugavanam [mailto:bnarayanan@gmail.com] wrote:
> You can try
> http://soaplite.com/download.html
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately I've got to stick with java on this
one though :o(
Dave
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Re: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
Posted by Badri Narayanan Sugavanam <bn...@gmail.com>.
You can try
http://soaplite.com/download.html
On 9/19/06, Irving, Dave <da...@logicacmg.com> wrote:
>
> Irving, Dave [mailto:dave.irving@logicacmg.com] wrote:
> > Sent: 19 September 2006 11:13
> > To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> > Subject: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
> >
>
> > Does anyone know if anything like this exists? Or if it
> > doesn't, whether it would actually be a useful tool to have?
>
> I've also just stumbled on WSIF... If nothing (OS) exists which does
> what I described, would WSIF be a potential base to build on top of? Im
> thinking of maybe a mapping from simple conversational test scripts in
> to invoking operations (powered by WSDL) through WSIF....
>
> Is that a stupid idea?
>
>
>
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RE: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
Posted by "Irving, Dave" <da...@logicacmg.com>.
Irving, Dave [mailto:dave.irving@logicacmg.com] wrote:
> Sent: 19 September 2006 11:13
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: [OT] Automated testing frameworks?
>
> Does anyone know if anything like this exists? Or if it
> doesn't, whether it would actually be a useful tool to have?
I've also just stumbled on WSIF... If nothing (OS) exists which does
what I described, would WSIF be a potential base to build on top of? Im
thinking of maybe a mapping from simple conversational test scripts in
to invoking operations (powered by WSDL) through WSIF....
Is that a stupid idea?
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