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Axis2 architecture documentation

Hi everybody,

I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be very
useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked at the
site and I didn't found anything like this.

PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that you (the
developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open source
project to work in my summer vacation.

thanks.
-- 
Wesley Mesquita
LIS/IC - UNICAMP
www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/~wesley/index.php
[skype: wesley.mesquita]

Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Wesley, there are two ways to impl JSR 311 - just implement it straight on 
a servlet and have your own deployment model etc.. The other option is to 
allow an Axis2 user to deploy a POJO with those annotations- then the impl 
would depend on how Axis2 deals with REST but users would not see anything 
different from the POJO+JSR311. That's the model that's interesting for 
Axis2 to support and is what is supported by other WS-* implementations too.

What it will allow is to write one POJO and make it offer both a RESTful 
interface and a SOAP interface. Oh yeah, that infuriates RESTafarians.

Sanjiva.

Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> "Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML 
> that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and 
> DOM?'
> 
> I thought this.
> 
> I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of 
> underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work 
> (and think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is, 
> how to make developers adopt RESTful model?
> 
> On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <damrhe2@yahoo.com 
> <ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>     You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure
>     from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture
>     is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in
>     place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request
>     data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML
>     technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to
>     something else?
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Dustin Amrhein
>     Web Services Development, IBM
> 
> 
> 
>     */Wesley Mesquita <wesleymesquita@gmail.com
>     <ma...@gmail.com>>/* wrote:
> 
>         So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we
>         are dealing with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend
>         of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is
>         this right?
> 
>         On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo
>         <nlgallar@us.ibm.com <ma...@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Wesley,
> 
>             Here's the page for the JSR. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
> 
>             As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so
>             there's potential for what you see today to be different by
>             the time the spec is complete. Take a look at the JSR and I
>             guess just start asking questions.
> 
>             Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around
>             and become familiar with the concepts of REST. That will
>             help put some of the JSR lingo into context. Another thing
>             you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a
>             REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.
> 
>             Please ask away if you have any questions.
> 
>             Cheers,
> 
>             -Nick
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
>             Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST
>             arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me
>             where to start I can learn more about this, and I´ll try to
>             do something in the implementation.
> 
>             Wesley.
> 
>             On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <
>             _sanjiva@opensource.lk_ <ma...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
> 
>                   How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST
>                   annotations JSR.
> 
>                   Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll
>                   need the deployment
>                   architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be
>                   useful when done (the
>                   JSR is still in progress).
> 
>                   Sanjiva.
> 
>                   Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <
>                   _davidillsley@gmail.com _ <ma...@gmail.com>
>                    > <mailto: _davidillsley@gmail.com_
>                   <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>                    >
>                    > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in
>                   working on Axis2.
>                    > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an
>                   itch'. You mention
>                    > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that
>                   was really hard to
>                    > do?
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > Well, there some people in my lab (
>                   _www.lis.ic.unicamp.br_ <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>
>                    > <_http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br _
>                   <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>>) that have used Axis
>                   1.x in their works
>                    > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last
>                   three months I have
>                    > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java
>                   classes. I explored
>                    > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to
>                   automatize the aar
>                    > packages creation. My objective is allow the users
>                   to send their classes
>                    > and the service will be deployed in Axis2
>                   environment. I made just
>                    > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in
>                   more complex classes
>                    > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But
>                   my new challenge is to
>                    > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring
>                   the methods described
>                    > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
>                    >
>                    > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like
>                   to be able to
>                    >
>                    > do?
>                    > David
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do
>                   everything I needed. But,
>                    > like in almost all projects I´ll find something
>                   that I can´t do, but,
>                    > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
>                    >
>                    > thanks,
>                    >
>                    > Wesley
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita <
>                   _wesleymesquita@gmail.com_
>                   <ma...@gmail.com>
>                    > <mailto: _wesleymesquita@gmail.com_
>                   <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>                    > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so
>                   I don't know how
>                    > to get
>                    > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages,
>                   because I still
>                    > dont have a
>                    > > good view of the areas that these problems are
>                   associated. For
>                    > now, I would
>                    > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big
>                   "thing"). The best
>                    > would be if
>                    > > someone can tell me an area to get involved
>                   (study documentation,
>                    > code) and
>                    > > so, try to develop sometrhing.
>                    > >
>                    > > Thanks.
>                    > >
>                    > >
>                    > >
>                    > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>                    > < _sanjiva@opensource.lk_
>                   <ma...@opensource.lk> <mailto: _
>                   sanjiva@opensource.lk_
>                   <ma...@opensource.lk>>> wrote:
>                    > > >
>                    > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>                    > > > > Hi everybody,
>                    > > > >
>                    > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at
>                   University, and
>                    > will be very
>                    > > > > useful the documentation about the
>                   architecture of Axis2. I
>                    > looked at
>                    > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
>                    > > > >
>                    > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or
>                   anything
>                    > specific that you
>                    > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I
>                   am looking for
>                    > a open
>                    > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
>                    > > >
>                    > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on!
>                   Do you feel like
>                    > doing a
>                    > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way
>                   is to look at
>                    > some of the
>                    > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to
>                   get started on.
>                    > > >
>                    > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and
>                   I'll come up
>                    > with some
>                    > > items!
>                    > > >
>                    > > > Sanjiva.
>                    > > > --
>                    > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>                    > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
>                    > _http://www.opensource.lk/_
>                    > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;
>                   _http://www.wso2.com/ _ <http://www.wso2.com/>
>                    > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation;
>                   _http://www.apache.org/_
>                    > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
>                    > _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_
>                    > > >
>                    > > >
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>                    > >
>                    > >
>                    > > --
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>                    > > LIS/IC - UNICAMP
>                    > > [skype: wesley.mesquita]
>                    >
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > --
>                    > David Illsley - IBM Web Services Development
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> 
>                   --
>                   Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>                   Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
>                   _http://www.opensource.lk/_
>                   Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; _
>                   http://www.wso2.com/_
>                   Member; Apache Software Foundation;
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>             LIS/IC - UNICAMP
>             [skype: wesley.mesquita]
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 14, 2007 4:20 PM, Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk> wrote:

> Hi Wesley,
>
> One note here. Never ask what REST is and try to compare that with WS or
> SOAP in particular. 100 people will come up with 100 different ideas
> about it. Pure REST is still in the philosophical stage and everyone
> thinks on their own. Anyway I have no intention to get in to the REST war.
>

Yesterday I was talking with a friend (a phd student from my lab) and he has
the same opinion.


> If you are getting in to a new field and trying to understand new
> domain, it will be bit harder for you to understand what it means. So
> try to follow some guidelines Nick and Sanjiva proposed, like reading
> the JSR and also googling. I hope you will find articles on Axis2 + Rest
> + WSDL 2.0 at least.


Now I am doing this. As you said it is a new field for me, and I trying to
understand this better.

>
>
> Another way to help us is, read our docs and see what is missing, what
> is complex and what is still not working. All the devs here have seen
> those docs thousand times or do not bother to look at them coz all of
> these people here total geeks. So we really want different and fresh
> perspectives on our code.
> Perhaps you can start answering vast amount of questions in axis-user
> list. Since you are a CS student, you have a better knowledge reading
> code than some of the users. You can help answering those people.
> Look at our JIRA, you might see some low hanging issues which you can
> fix easily. Especially if there are issues with test cases, run them,
> identify the problem and debug to see where the problem is and try to
> fix it.
>

For now I am trying to to get o better view of Axis2 structure before send
any opinion or suggestion. So, when I get better I´ll can give my opinion
and contribute to the project.

>
> Those methods are how you can help us and also will earn you the way to
> get the prestigious committership in Apache Web services project which
> will come handy on your CV.


Certainly!


>
>
> Good luck.
>
> Chinthaka
>
>
> Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> > "Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML
> > that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and
> > DOM?'
> >
> > I thought this.
> >
> > I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of
> > underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work
> > (and think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is,
> > how to make developers adopt RESTful model?
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <damrhe2@yahoo.com
> > <ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure
> >     from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture
> >     is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in
> >     place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request
> >     data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML
> >     technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to
> >     something else?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Dustin Amrhein
> >     Web Services Development, IBM
> >
> >
> >
> >     */Wesley Mesquita <wesleymesquita@gmail.com
> >     <ma...@gmail.com>>/* wrote:
> >
> >         So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we
> >         are dealing with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend
> >         of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is
> >         this right?
> >
> >         On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo
> >         <nlgallar@us.ibm.com <ma...@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
> >
> >             Wesley,
> >
> >             Here's the page for the JSR.
> http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
> >
> >             As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so
> >             there's potential for what you see today to be different by
> >             the time the spec is complete. Take a look at the JSR and I
> >             guess just start asking questions.
> >
> >             Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around
> >             and become familiar with the concepts of REST. That will
> >             help put some of the JSR lingo into context. Another thing
> >             you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a
> >             REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.
> >
> >             Please ask away if you have any questions.
> >
> >             Cheers,
> >
> >             -Nick
> >
> >
> >             Inactive hide details for "Wesley Mesquita"
> >             <we...@gmail.com> "Wesley Mesquita" <
> >             wesleymesquita@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> >
> >
> >                                     *"Wesley Mesquita"
> >                                     <wesleymesquita@gmail.com
> >                                     <ma...@gmail.com>>*
> >                                     12/06/2007 03:25 PM
> >                                     Please respond to
> >                                     axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >                                     <ma...@ws.apache.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >             To
> >
> >             axis-dev@ws.apache.org <ma...@ws.apache.org>
> >
> >             cc
> >
> >
> >             Subject
> >
> >             Re: Axis2 architecture documentation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >             Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST
> >             arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me
> >             where to start I can learn more about this, and I´ll try to
> >             do something in the implementation.
> >
> >             Wesley.
> >
> >             On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <
> >             _sanjiva@opensource.lk_ <ma...@opensource.lk>>
> wrote:
> >
> >                   How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST
> >                   annotations JSR.
> >
> >                   Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll
> >                   need the deployment
> >                   architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be
> >                   useful when done (the
> >                   JSR is still in progress).
> >
> >                   Sanjiva.
> >
> >                   Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> >                    >
> >                    >
> >                    > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <
> >                   _davidillsley@gmail.com _ <mailto:
> davidillsley@gmail.com>
> >                    > <mailto: _davidillsley@gmail.com_
> >                   <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >                    >
> >                    > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in
> >                   working on Axis2.
> >                    > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an
> >                   itch'. You mention
> >                    > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that
> >                   was really hard to
> >                    > do?
> >                    >
> >                    >
> >                    > Well, there some people in my lab (
> >                   _www.lis.ic.unicamp.br_ <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/
> >
> >                    > <_http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br _
> >                   <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>>) that have used Axis
> >                   1.x in their works
> >                    > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last
> >                   three months I have
> >                    > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java
> >                   classes. I explored
> >                    > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to
> >                   automatize the aar
> >                    > packages creation. My objective is allow the users
> >                   to send their classes
> >                    > and the service will be deployed in Axis2
> >                   environment. I made just
> >                    > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in
> >                   more complex classes
> >                    > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But
> >                   my new challenge is to
> >                    > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring
> >                   the methods described
> >                    > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy
> way."
> >                    >
> >                    > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like
> >                   to be able to
> >                    >
> >                    > do?
> >                    > David
> >                    >
> >                    >
> >                    > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do
> >                   everything I needed. But,
> >                    > like in almost all projects I´ll find something
> >                   that I can´t do, but,
> >                    > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
> >                    >
> >                    > thanks,
> >                    >
> >                    > Wesley
> >                    >
> >                    >
> >                    > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita <
> >                   _wesleymesquita@gmail.com_
> >                   <ma...@gmail.com>
> >                    > <mailto: _wesleymesquita@gmail.com_
> >                   <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >                    > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so
> >                   I don't know how
> >                    > to get
> >                    > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages,
> >                   because I still
> >                    > dont have a
> >                    > > good view of the areas that these problems are
> >                   associated. For
> >                    > now, I would
> >                    > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big
> >                   "thing"). The best
> >                    > would be if
> >                    > > someone can tell me an area to get involved
> >                   (study documentation,
> >                    > code) and
> >                    > > so, try to develop sometrhing.
> >                    > >
> >                    > > Thanks.
> >                    > >
> >                    > >
> >                    > >
> >                    > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >                    > < _sanjiva@opensource.lk_
> >                   <ma...@opensource.lk> <mailto: _
> >                   sanjiva@opensource.lk_
> >                   <ma...@opensource.lk>>> wrote:
> >                    > > >
> >                    > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> >                    > > > > Hi everybody,
> >                    > > > >
> >                    > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at
> >                   University, and
> >                    > will be very
> >                    > > > > useful the documentation about the
> >                   architecture of Axis2. I
> >                    > looked at
> >                    > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like
> this.
> >                    > > > >
> >                    > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or
> >                   anything
> >                    > specific that you
> >                    > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I
> >                   am looking for
> >                    > a open
> >                    > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
> >                    > > >
> >                    > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on!
> >                   Do you feel like
> >                    > doing a
> >                    > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way
> >                   is to look at
> >                    > some of the
> >                    > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to
> >                   get started on.
> >                    > > >
> >                    > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and
> >                   I'll come up
> >                    > with some
> >                    > > items!
> >                    > > >
> >                    > > > Sanjiva.
> >                    > > > --
> >                    > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >                    > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >                    > _http://www.opensource.lk/_
> >                    > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;
> >                   _http://www.wso2.com/ _ <http://www.wso2.com/>
> >                    > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation;
> >                   _http://www.apache.org/_
> >                    > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
> >                    > _http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/_
> >                    > > >
> >                    > > >
> >                    >
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>.
Hi Wesley,

One note here. Never ask what REST is and try to compare that with WS or 
SOAP in particular. 100 people will come up with 100 different ideas 
about it. Pure REST is still in the philosophical stage and everyone 
thinks on their own. Anyway I have no intention to get in to the REST war.

If you are getting in to a new field and trying to understand new 
domain, it will be bit harder for you to understand what it means. So 
try to follow some guidelines Nick and Sanjiva proposed, like reading 
the JSR and also googling. I hope you will find articles on Axis2 + Rest 
+ WSDL 2.0 at least.

Another way to help us is, read our docs and see what is missing, what 
is complex and what is still not working. All the devs here have seen 
those docs thousand times or do not bother to look at them coz all of 
these people here total geeks. So we really want different and fresh 
perspectives on our code.
Perhaps you can start answering vast amount of questions in axis-user 
list. Since you are a CS student, you have a better knowledge reading 
code than some of the users. You can help answering those people.
Look at our JIRA, you might see some low hanging issues which you can 
fix easily. Especially if there are issues with test cases, run them, 
identify the problem and debug to see where the problem is and try to 
fix it.

Those methods are how you can help us and also will earn you the way to 
get the prestigious committership in Apache Web services project which 
will come handy on your CV.

Good luck.

Chinthaka


Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> "Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML 
> that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and 
> DOM?'
> 
> I thought this.
> 
> I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of 
> underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work 
> (and think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is, 
> how to make developers adopt RESTful model?
> 
> On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <damrhe2@yahoo.com 
> <ma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>     You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure
>     from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture
>     is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in
>     place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request
>     data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML
>     technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to
>     something else?
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Dustin Amrhein
>     Web Services Development, IBM
> 
> 
> 
>     */Wesley Mesquita <wesleymesquita@gmail.com
>     <ma...@gmail.com>>/* wrote:
> 
>         So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we
>         are dealing with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend
>         of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is
>         this right?
> 
>         On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo
>         <nlgallar@us.ibm.com <ma...@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Wesley,
> 
>             Here's the page for the JSR. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
> 
>             As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so
>             there's potential for what you see today to be different by
>             the time the spec is complete. Take a look at the JSR and I
>             guess just start asking questions.
> 
>             Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around
>             and become familiar with the concepts of REST. That will
>             help put some of the JSR lingo into context. Another thing
>             you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a
>             REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.
> 
>             Please ask away if you have any questions.
> 
>             Cheers,
> 
>             -Nick
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>             Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST
>             arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me
>             where to start I can learn more about this, and I´ll try to
>             do something in the implementation.
> 
>             Wesley.
> 
>             On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <
>             _sanjiva@opensource.lk_ <ma...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
> 
>                   How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST
>                   annotations JSR.
> 
>                   Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll
>                   need the deployment
>                   architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be
>                   useful when done (the
>                   JSR is still in progress).
> 
>                   Sanjiva.
> 
>                   Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <
>                   _davidillsley@gmail.com _ <ma...@gmail.com>
>                    > <mailto: _davidillsley@gmail.com_
>                   <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>                    >
>                    > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in
>                   working on Axis2.
>                    > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an
>                   itch'. You mention
>                    > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that
>                   was really hard to
>                    > do?
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > Well, there some people in my lab (
>                   _www.lis.ic.unicamp.br_ <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>
>                    > <_http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br _
>                   <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>>) that have used Axis
>                   1.x in their works
>                    > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last
>                   three months I have
>                    > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java
>                   classes. I explored
>                    > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to
>                   automatize the aar
>                    > packages creation. My objective is allow the users
>                   to send their classes
>                    > and the service will be deployed in Axis2
>                   environment. I made just
>                    > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in
>                   more complex classes
>                    > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But
>                   my new challenge is to
>                    > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring
>                   the methods described
>                    > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
>                    >
>                    > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like
>                   to be able to
>                    >
>                    > do?
>                    > David
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do
>                   everything I needed. But,
>                    > like in almost all projects I´ll find something
>                   that I can´t do, but,
>                    > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
>                    >
>                    > thanks,
>                    >
>                    > Wesley
>                    >
>                    >
>                    > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita <
>                   _wesleymesquita@gmail.com_
>                   <ma...@gmail.com>
>                    > <mailto: _wesleymesquita@gmail.com_
>                   <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>                    > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so
>                   I don't know how
>                    > to get
>                    > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages,
>                   because I still
>                    > dont have a
>                    > > good view of the areas that these problems are
>                   associated. For
>                    > now, I would
>                    > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big
>                   "thing"). The best
>                    > would be if
>                    > > someone can tell me an area to get involved
>                   (study documentation,
>                    > code) and
>                    > > so, try to develop sometrhing.
>                    > >
>                    > > Thanks.
>                    > >
>                    > >
>                    > >
>                    > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>                    > < _sanjiva@opensource.lk_
>                   <ma...@opensource.lk> <mailto: _
>                   sanjiva@opensource.lk_
>                   <ma...@opensource.lk>>> wrote:
>                    > > >
>                    > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>                    > > > > Hi everybody,
>                    > > > >
>                    > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at
>                   University, and
>                    > will be very
>                    > > > > useful the documentation about the
>                   architecture of Axis2. I
>                    > looked at
>                    > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
>                    > > > >
>                    > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or
>                   anything
>                    > specific that you
>                    > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I
>                   am looking for
>                    > a open
>                    > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
>                    > > >
>                    > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on!
>                   Do you feel like
>                    > doing a
>                    > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way
>                   is to look at
>                    > some of the
>                    > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to
>                   get started on.
>                    > > >
>                    > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and
>                   I'll come up
>                    > with some
>                    > > items!
>                    > > >
>                    > > > Sanjiva.
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>                    > _http://www.opensource.lk/_
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Dustin Amrhein <da...@yahoo.com>.
I think developers are already using this model, and it has become quite popular. Due to the popularity and rising use, a JSR is in the works, and thus a standards based implementation of REST is becoming possible. I agree with your statement that any implementation of REST that is pursued should be free from prior models that were more SOAP-based. Maybe this means that any work done here should be in its own module as to promote a clean separation of the REST implementation from existing Axis2 work.

Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com> wrote: "Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM?'

I thought this. 

I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work (and think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is, how to make developers adopt RESTful model? 

On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to something else? 

Thanks,
Dustin Amrhein
Web Services Development, IBM



Wesley Mesquita <wesleymesquita@gmail.com > wrote: So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we are dealing with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is this right?  

 On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
   Wesley,
 
 Here's the page for the JSR.     http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
 
 As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential for what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete.  Take a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions. 
 
 Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become familiar with the concepts of REST.  That will help put some of the JSR lingo into context.  Another thing you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.  
 
 Please ask away if you have any questions.
 
 Cheers,
 
 -Nick

 
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 Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can  learn more about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation. 
 
 Wesley.
 
 On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana < sanjiva@opensource.lk> wrote:  How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.
 
 Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment 
 architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done (the 
 JSR is still in progress).
 
 Sanjiva.
 
 Wesley Mesquita wrote:
 >
 >
 > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley < davidillsley@gmail.com 
 > <mailto: davidillsley@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >
 >     Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2. 
 >     Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You mention 
 >     you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to
 >     do?
 >
 >
 > Well, there some people in my lab (  www.lis.ic.unicamp.br
 > <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br >) that have used Axis 1.x in their works  
 > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have
 > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java  classes. I explored
 > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar 
 > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their classes
 > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I made just 
 > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes 
 > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is to
 > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods described 
 > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way." 
 >
 > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
 >
 >     do?
 >     David
 >
  >
 > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But, 
 > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but,
 > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
 >
  > thanks,
 >
 > Wesley
 >
 >
  >     On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com
 >     <mailto: wesleymesquita@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >      > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how  
 >     to get
 >      > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
 >     dont have a
 >      > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
 >     now, I would  
 >      > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
 >     would be if
 >      > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation,
 >     code) and  
 >      > so, try to develop  sometrhing.
 >      >
 >      > Thanks.
 >      >
 >      >
 >      >
 >      > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
 >     < sanjiva@opensource.lk <mailto:  sanjiva@opensource.lk>> wrote:
 >      > > 
 >      > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
 >      > > > Hi everybody,
 >      > > >
 >      > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and 
 >     will be very 
 >      > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
 >     looked at
 >      > > > the site and I didn't found anything like  this.
 >      > > >
 >      > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
 >     specific that you
 >      > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for 
 >     a open
 >      > > > source project to work in my summer vacation. 
 >      > >
 >      > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like
 >     doing a 
 >      > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at 
 >     some of the
 >      > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
 >      > > 
 >      > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
 >     with some
 >      > items!
 >      > >
 >      > > Sanjiva.
 >      > > -- 
 >      > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
 >      > >  Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; 
 >     http://www.opensource.lk/
 >      > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;  http://www.wso2.com/ 
 >      > > Member; Apache Software Foundation;  http://www.apache.org/
 >      > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
"Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML that we
can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM?'

I thought this.

I agree that is a good initiative, make the WS development free of
underlying technologies, but this means changing the model that we work (and
think) today, is there any "plan" to make this popular? That is, how to make
developers adopt RESTful model?

On Dec 10, 2007 1:08 AM, Dustin Amrhein <da...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure from the
> SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture is built to
> support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in place of SOAP
> though? Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML
> that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and
> DOM? Or, are you referring to something else?
>
> Thanks,
> Dustin Amrhein
> Web Services Development, IBM
>
>
>
> *Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we are dealing
> with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend of technologies like
> SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is this right?
>
> On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> >  Wesley,
> >
> > Here's the page for the JSR. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
> >
> > As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential
> > for what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete.
> > Take a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions.
> >
> > Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become
> > familiar with the concepts of REST. That will help put some of the JSR lingo
> > into context. Another thing you could do to get familiar with the concept is
> > to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.
> >
> > Please ask away if you have any questions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve
> > never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more
> > about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation.
> >
> > Wesley.
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <*s...@opensource.lk>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >    How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations
> >    JSR.
> >
> >    Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the
> >    deployment
> >    architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when
> >    done (the
> >    JSR is still in progress).
> >
> >    Sanjiva.
> >
> >    Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <*davidillsley@gmail.com *<da...@gmail.com>
> >    > <mailto:*davidillsley@gmail.com* <da...@gmail.com>>>
> >    wrote:
> >    >
> >    > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on
> >    Axis2.
> >    > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You
> >    mention
> >    > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really
> >    hard to
> >    > do?
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > Well, there some people in my lab ( *www.lis.ic.unicamp.br*<http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>
> >    > <*http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br* <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>>)
> >    that have used Axis 1.x in their works
> >    > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months
> >    I have
> >    > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I
> >    explored
> >    > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the
> >    aar
> >    > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their
> >    classes
> >    > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment. I made
> >    just
> >    > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex
> >    classes
> >    > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new
> >    challenge is to
> >    > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods
> >    described
> >    > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
> >    >
> >    > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
> >    >
> >    > do?
> >    > David
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed.
> >    But,
> >    > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do,
> >    but,
> >    > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
> >    >
> >    > thanks,
> >    >
> >    > Wesley
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < *
> >    wesleymesquita@gmail.com* <we...@gmail.com>
> >    > <mailto:*wesleymesquita@gmail.com* <we...@gmail.com>>>
> >    wrote:
> >    > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know
> >    how
> >    > to get
> >    > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I
> >    still
> >    > dont have a
> >    > > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
> >    > now, I would
> >    > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
> >    > would be if
> >    > > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study
> >    documentation,
> >    > code) and
> >    > > so, try to develop sometrhing.
> >    > >
> >    > > Thanks.
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >    > <*sanjiva@opensource.lk* <sa...@opensource.lk> <mailto: *
> >    sanjiva@opensource.lk* <sa...@opensource.lk>>> wrote:
> >    > > >
> >    > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> >    > > > > Hi everybody,
> >    > > > >
> >    > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
> >    > will be very
> >    > > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2.
> >    I
> >    > looked at
> >    > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
> >    > > > >
> >    > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
> >    > specific that you
> >    > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking
> >    for
> >    > a open
> >    > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
> >    > > >
> >    > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel
> >    like
> >    > doing a
> >    > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
> >
> >    > some of the
> >    > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started
> >    on.
> >    > > >
> >    > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
> >    > with some
> >    > > items!
> >    > > >
> >    > > > Sanjiva.
> >    > > > --
> >    > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> >    > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
> >    > *http://www.opensource.lk/* <http://www.opensource.lk/>
> >    > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; *http://www.wso2.com/ *<http://www.wso2.com/>
> >    > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; *http://www.apache.org/*<http://www.apache.org/>
> >    > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
> >    > *http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/* <http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/>
> >    > > >
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> >    > >
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> >    Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; *
> >    http://www.opensource.lk/* <http://www.opensource.lk/>
> >    Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; *http://www.wso2.com/*<http://www.wso2.com/>
> >    Member; Apache Software Foundation; *http://www.apache.org/*<http://www.apache.org/>
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com>.
So, there are a few different things at play here.

With respect to not needing SOAP, you're right.  REST is a departure from
SOAP and the existing view of a structured format for the message payload.
Data can be exchanged in whatever format you like (raw, XML, JSON, etc.).

Given that, the goal of the JSR is to provide a set of standard Java APIs
that would better support developing RESTful applications than what exists
today.  There are ways to pull it off today with some of the standard Java
APIs, but it's cumbersome.

This is certainly a big piece to bite off for a first thing to work on.  As
David suggested earlier...  it might be best to just start by scratching an
itch and finding a few JIRAs that might seem interesting.  Just my two
cents though...

Regards,

-Nick




                                                                           
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So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we are dealing
with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend of technologies like
SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is this right?

On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
  Wesley,

  Here's the page for the JSR. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311

  As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential
  for what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete.
  Take a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions.

  Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become
  familiar with the concepts of REST. That will help put some of the JSR
  lingo into context. Another thing you could do to get familiar with the
  concept is to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.

  Please ask away if you have any questions.

  Cheers,

  -Nick




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  Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve
  never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more
  about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation.

  Wesley.

  On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
  wrote:
        How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations
        JSR.

        Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the
        deployment
        architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when
        done (the
        JSR is still in progress).

        Sanjiva.

        Wesley Mesquita wrote:
        >
        >
        > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <davidillsley@gmail.com
        > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
        >
        > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on
        Axis2.
        > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You
        mention
        > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really
        hard to
        > do?
        >
        >
        > Well, there some people in my lab ( www.lis.ic.unicamp.br.
        > <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br>) that have used Axis 1.x in their
        works
        > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I
        have
        > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I
        explored
        > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the
        aar
        > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their
        classes
        > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment. I made
        just
        > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex
        classes
        > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new
        challenge is to
        > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods
        described
        > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
        >
        > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
        >
        > do?
        > David
        >
        >
        > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed.
        But,
        > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do,
        but,
        > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
        >
        > thanks,
        >
        > Wesley
        >
        >
        > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita <
        wesleymesquita@gmail.com
        > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
        > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know
        how
        > to get
        > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I
        still
        > dont have a
        > > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
        > now, I would
        > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
        > would be if
        > > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study
        documentation,
        > code) and
        > > so, try to develop sometrhing.
        > >
        > > Thanks.
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
        > <sanjiva@opensource.lk <mailto: sanjiva@opensource.lk>> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
        > > > > Hi everybody,
        > > > >
        > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
        > will be very
        > > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
        > looked at
        > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
        > > > >
        > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
        > specific that you
        > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking
        for
        > a open
        > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
        > > >
        > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel
        like
        > doing a
        > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
        > some of the
        > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
        > > >
        > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
        > with some
        > > items!
        > > >
        > > > Sanjiva.
        > > > --
        > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
        > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
        > http://www.opensource.lk/.
        > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
        > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
        > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
        > http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/.
        > > >
        > > >
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Dustin Amrhein <da...@yahoo.com>.
You are correct in saying that REST web services are a departure from the SOAP-centric web services that the Apache Axis architecture is built to support. What exactly do you mean by lower-level APIs in place of SOAP though? Do you mean to say that since REST request data is sent in pure XML that we can use well-known existing XML technologies like STAX, SAX, and DOM? Or, are you referring to something else?

Thanks,
Dustin Amrhein
Web Services Development, IBM


Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com> wrote: So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we are dealing with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend of technologies like SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is this right? 

 On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
  Wesley,
 
 Here's the page for the JSR.     http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
 
 As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential for what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete.  Take a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions.
 
 Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become familiar with the concepts of REST.  That will help put some of the JSR lingo into context.  Another thing you could do to get familiar with the concept is to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs. 
 
 Please ask away if you have any questions.
 
 Cheers,
 
 -Nick

 
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 Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation. 
 
 Wesley.
 
 On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:  How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.
 
 Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment
 architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done (the 
 JSR is still in progress).
 
 Sanjiva.
 
 Wesley Mesquita wrote:
 >
 >
 > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <davidillsley@gmail.com 
 > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >
 >     Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2. 
 >     Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You mention
 >     you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to
 >     do?
 >
 >
 > Well, there some people in my lab ( www.lis.ic.unicamp.br
 > <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br>) that have used Axis 1.x in their works  
 > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have
 > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I explored
 > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar 
 > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their classes
 > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I made just
 > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes 
 > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is to
 > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods described
 > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way." 
 >
 > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
 >
 >     do?
 >     David
 >
 >
 > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But, 
 > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but,
 > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
 >
 > thanks,
 >
 > Wesley
 >
 >
 >     On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com
 >     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >      > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how 
 >     to get
 >      > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
 >     dont have a
 >      > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
 >     now, I would 
 >      > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
 >     would be if
 >      > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation,
 >     code) and 
 >      > so, try to develop sometrhing.
 >      >
 >      > Thanks.
 >      >
 >      >
 >      >
 >      > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
 >     <sanjiva@opensource.lk <mailto: sanjiva@opensource.lk>> wrote:
 >      > > 
 >      > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
 >      > > > Hi everybody,
 >      > > >
 >      > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
 >     will be very 
 >      > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
 >     looked at
 >      > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
 >      > > >
 >      > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
 >     specific that you
 >      > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for
 >     a open
 >      > > > source project to work in my summer vacation. 
 >      > >
 >      > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like
 >     doing a
 >      > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at 
 >     some of the
 >      > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
 >      > >
 >      > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
 >     with some
 >      > items!
 >      > >
 >      > > Sanjiva.
 >      > > --
 >      > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
 >      > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; 
 >     http://www.opensource.lk/
 >      > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ 
 >      > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
 >      > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
 >     http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
 >      > >
 >      > >
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 >      > >
 >      >
 >      >
 >      >
 >      > --
 >      > Wesley Mesquita
 >      > LIS/IC - UNICAMP
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 >
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 >
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
So, as I understood, REST goes in a different way from that we are dealing
with WS today  in the sense that we wouldn´t deppend of technologies like
SOAP, and explore Java lower level APIs, is this right?

On Dec 7, 2007 12:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Wesley,
>
> Here's the page for the JSR. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311
>
> As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential
> for what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete.
> Take a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions.
>
> Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become
> familiar with the concepts of REST. That will help put some of the JSR lingo
> into context. Another thing you could do to get familiar with the concept is
> to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.
>
> Please ask away if you have any questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Nick
>
>
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> Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve
> never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more
> about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation.
>
> Wesley.
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <*s...@opensource.lk>>
> wrote:
>
>    How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.
>
>    Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the
>    deployment
>    architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when
>    done (the
>    JSR is still in progress).
>
>    Sanjiva.
>
>    Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>    >
>    >
>    > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <*davidillsley@gmail.com *<da...@gmail.com>
>    > <mailto:*davidillsley@gmail.com* <da...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>    >
>    > Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on
>    Axis2.
>    > Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You
>    mention
>    > you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard
>    to
>    > do?
>    >
>    >
>    > Well, there some people in my lab ( *www.lis.ic.unicamp.br*<http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>
>    > <*http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br* <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/>>)
>    that have used Axis 1.x in their works
>    > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I
>    have
>    > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I
>    explored
>    > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the
>    aar
>    > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their
>    classes
>    > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment. I made just
>    > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex
>    classes
>    > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge
>    is to
>    > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods
>    described
>    > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
>    >
>    > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
>    >
>    > do?
>    > David
>    >
>    >
>    > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed.
>    But,
>    > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do,
>    but,
>    > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
>    >
>    > thanks,
>    >
>    > Wesley
>    >
>    >
>    > On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < *
>    wesleymesquita@gmail.com* <we...@gmail.com>
>    > <mailto:*wesleymesquita@gmail.com* <we...@gmail.com>>>
>    wrote:
>    > > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know
>    how
>    > to get
>    > > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
>    > dont have a
>    > > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
>    > now, I would
>    > > like to get simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
>    > would be if
>    > > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study
>    documentation,
>    > code) and
>    > > so, try to develop sometrhing.
>    > >
>    > > Thanks.
>    > >
>    > >
>    > >
>    > > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>    > <*sanjiva@opensource.lk* <sa...@opensource.lk> <mailto:*
>    sanjiva@opensource.lk* <sa...@opensource.lk>>> wrote:
>    > > >
>    > > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>    > > > > Hi everybody,
>    > > > >
>    > > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
>    > will be very
>    > > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
>    > looked at
>    > > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
>    > > > >
>    > > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
>    > specific that you
>    > > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for
>    > a open
>    > > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
>    > > >
>    > > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel
>    like
>    > doing a
>    > > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
>    > some of the
>    > > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
>    > > >
>    > > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
>    > with some
>    > > items!
>    > > >
>    > > > Sanjiva.
>    > > > --
>    > > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>    > > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
>    > *http://www.opensource.lk/* <http://www.opensource.lk/>
>    > > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; *http://www.wso2.com/ *<http://www.wso2.com/>
>    > > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; *http://www.apache.org/*<http://www.apache.org/>
>    > > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
>    > *http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/* <http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/>
>    > > >
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>
>    --
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>    Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; *
>    http://www.opensource.lk/* <http://www.opensource.lk/>
>    Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; *http://www.wso2.com/*<http://www.wso2.com/>
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com>.
Wesley,

Here's the page for the JSR.     http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=311

As Sanjiva mentioned, the JSR is still in progress so there's potential for
what you see today to be different by the time the spec is complete.  Take
a look at the JSR and I guess just start asking questions.

Before diving into that JSR though, I would Google around and become
familiar with the concepts of REST.  That will help put some of the JSR
lingo into context.  Another thing you could do to get familiar with the
concept is to build a REST service/client using the existing Axis2 APIs.

Please ask away if you have any questions.

Cheers,

-Nick



                                                                           
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Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve
never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more
about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation.

Wesley.

On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
  How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.

  Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment
  architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done
  (the
  JSR is still in progress).

  Sanjiva.

  Wesley Mesquita wrote:
  >
  >
  > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <davidillsley@gmail.com
  > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
  >
  >     Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on
  Axis2.
  >     Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You
  mention
  >     you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard
  to
  >     do?
  >
  >
  > Well, there some people in my lab ( www.lis.ic.unicamp.br.
  > <.http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br>) that have used Axis 1.x in their works
  > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have
  > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I explored
  > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar
  > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their
  classes
  > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I made just
  > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes
  > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is
  to
  > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods
  described
  > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
  >
  > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
  >
  >     do?
  >     David
  >
  >
  > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But,
  > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but,
  > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
  >
  > thanks,
  >
  > Wesley
  >
  >
  >     On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com
  >     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
  >      > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know
  how
  >     to get
  >      > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
  >     dont have a
  >      > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
  >     now, I would
  >      > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
  >     would be if
  >      > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study
  documentation,
  >     code) and
  >      > so, try to develop sometrhing.
  >      >
  >      > Thanks.
  >      >
  >      >
  >      >
  >      > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
  >     <sanjiva@opensource.lk <ma...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
  >      > >
  >      > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
  >      > > > Hi everybody,
  >      > > >
  >      > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
  >     will be very
  >      > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
  >     looked at
  >      > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
  >      > > >
  >      > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
  >     specific that you
  >      > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for
  >     a open
  >      > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
  >      > >
  >      > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel
  like
  >     doing a
  >      > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
  >     some of the
  >      > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
  >      > >
  >      > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
  >     with some
  >      > items!
  >      > >
  >      > > Sanjiva.
  >      > > --
  >      > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
  >      > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
  >     http://www.opensource.lk/.
  >      > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
  >      > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
  >      > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
  >     http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/.
  >      > >
  >      > >
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  Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/.
  Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
Interesting, I know a little bit of the concepts of REST arch, but I´ve
never worked with JSR. If you can tell me where to start I can learn more
about this, and I´ll try to do something in the implementation.

Wesley.

On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:

> How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.
>
> Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment
> architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done (the
> JSR is still in progress).
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <davidillsley@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on
> Axis2.
> >     Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You
> mention
> >     you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard
> to
> >     do?
> >
> >
> > Well, there some people in my lab (www.lis.ic.unicamp.br
> > <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br>) that have used Axis 1.x in their works
> > (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have
> > tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I explored
> > better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar
> > packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their classes
> > and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I made just
> > simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes
> > (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is to
> > find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods described
> > in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
> >
> > Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
> >
> >     do?
> >     David
> >
> >
> > I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But,
> > like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but,
> > for now, I don´t know what is this :).
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Wesley
> >
> >
> >     On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com
> >     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >      > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how
> >     to get
> >      > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
> >     dont have a
> >      > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
> >     now, I would
> >      > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
> >     would be if
> >      > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation,
> >     code) and
> >      > so, try to develop sometrhing.
> >      >
> >      > Thanks.
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
> >     <sanjiva@opensource.lk <ma...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
> >      > >
> >      > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> >      > > > Hi everybody,
> >      > > >
> >      > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
> >     will be very
> >      > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
> >     looked at
> >      > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
> >      > > >
> >      > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
> >     specific that you
> >      > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for
> >     a open
> >      > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
> >      > >
> >      > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like
> >     doing a
> >      > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
> >     some of the
> >      > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
> >      > >
> >      > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
> >     with some
> >      > items!
> >      > >
> >      > > Sanjiva.
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> >     http://www.opensource.lk/
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> >      > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> >      > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com>.
> One key thing to keep in mind still is that this stuff only applies to
> Java language .. not any JVM based language. As a result, any such
> features need to be kept away from the core - if we plug this beast into
> Groovy or Rhino (as we've done in the WSO2 Mashup Server) then none of
> these JSRs come into play at all.

Agreed...  each of these should merely be facades on a generic core.

Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere  -  WebServices Development
nlgallar@us.ibm.com
Phone: 512-838-1182
Building: 901 / 5G-016


                                                                           
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Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
> So does this mean you're changing your mind on JSR technologies? :)

:-). I'm not against all of it .. just the heavy useless ones ;-).

I am +1 for 183 and 211 ... annotations are useful and no one wants to
keep learning new ones.

One key thing to keep in mind still is that this stuff only applies to
Java language .. not any JVM based language. As a result, any such
features need to be kept away from the core - if we plug this beast into
Groovy or Rhino (as we've done in the WSO2 Mashup Server) then none of
these JSRs come into play at all.

Sanjiva.
--
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Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/:
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
> So does this mean you're changing your mind on JSR technologies? :)

:-). I'm not against all of it .. just the heavy useless ones ;-).

I am +1 for 183 and 211 ... annotations are useful and no one wants to 
keep learning new ones.

One key thing to keep in mind still is that this stuff only applies to 
Java language .. not any JVM based language. As a result, any such 
features need to be kept away from the core - if we plug this beast into 
Groovy or Rhino (as we've done in the WSO2 Mashup Server) then none of 
these JSRs come into play at all.

Sanjiva.
-- 
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Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Nicholas L Gallardo <nl...@us.ibm.com>.
So does this mean you're changing your mind on JSR technologies?  :)





                                                                           
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How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.

Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment
architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done (the
JSR is still in progress).

Sanjiva.

Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <davidillsley@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2.
>     Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You
mention
>     you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to
>     do?
>
>
> Well, there some people in my lab (www.lis.ic.unicamp.br
> <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br,>) that have used Axis 1.x in their works
> (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have
> tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I explored
> better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar
> packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their classes
> and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I made just
> simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes
> (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is to
> find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods described
> in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
>
> Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
>
>     do?
>     David
>
>
> I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But,
> like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but,
> for now, I don´t know what is this :).
>
> thanks,
>
> Wesley
>
>
>     On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com
>     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how
>     to get
>      > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
>     dont have a
>      > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
>     now, I would
>      > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
>     would be if
>      > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation,
>     code) and
>      > so, try to develop sometrhing.
>      >
>      > Thanks.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>     <sanjiva@opensource.lk <ma...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
>      > >
>      > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>      > > > Hi everybody,
>      > > >
>      > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
>     will be very
>      > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
>     looked at
>      > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
>      > > >
>      > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
>     specific that you
>      > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for
>     a open
>      > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
>      > >
>      > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like
>     doing a
>      > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
>     some of the
>      > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
>      > >
>      > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
>     with some
>      > items!
>      > >
>      > > Sanjiva.
>      > > --
>      > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>      > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
>     http://www.opensource.lk/
>      > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
>      > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>      > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
>     http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>      > >
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Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
How about implementing JSR-311? That's the new REST annotations JSR.

Its a new feature, so its relatively easy .. but u'll need the deployment 
architecture etc.. But its a fun project and will be useful when done (the 
JSR is still in progress).

Sanjiva.

Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> 
> 
> On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <davidillsley@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2.
>     Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You mention
>     you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to
>     do? 
> 
> 
> Well, there some people in my lab (www.lis.ic.unicamp.br 
> <http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br>) that have used Axis 1.x in their works 
> (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last three months I have 
> tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java classes. I explored  
> better the POJO method and I did some scripts to automatize the aar 
> packages creation. My objective is allow the users to send their classes 
> and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I made just 
> simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex classes 
> (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge is to 
> find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods described 
> in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."
> 
> Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
> 
>     do?
>     David
> 
> 
> I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But, 
> like in almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but, 
> for now, I don´t know what is this :).
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Wesley
> 
> 
>     On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com
>     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how
>     to get
>      > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still
>     dont have a
>      > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For
>     now, I would
>      > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best
>     would be if
>      > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation,
>     code) and
>      > so, try to develop sometrhing.
>      >
>      > Thanks.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
>     <sanjiva@opensource.lk <ma...@opensource.lk>> wrote:
>      > >
>      > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
>      > > > Hi everybody,
>      > > >
>      > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and
>     will be very
>      > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I
>     looked at
>      > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
>      > > >
>      > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything
>     specific that you
>      > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for
>     a open
>      > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
>      > >
>      > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like
>     doing a
>      > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at
>     some of the
>      > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
>      > >
>      > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up
>     with some
>      > items!
>      > >
>      > > Sanjiva.
>      > > --
>      > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>      > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
>     http://www.opensource.lk/
>      > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
>      > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>      > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
>     http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>      > >
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Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
On Dec 6, 2007 7:31 AM, David Illsley <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2.
> Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You mention
> you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to
> do?


Well, there some people in my lab (www.lis.ic.unicamp.br) that have used
Axis 1.x in their works (I know tree MScs that used) , and during the last
three months I have tried to use Axis2 to create Web Services from java
classes. I explored  better the POJO method and I did some scripts to
automatize the aar packages creation. My objective is allow the users to
send their classes and the service will be deployed in Axis2 environment.  I
made just simple tests, but I think I´ll have problems in more complex
classes (using serialization, attachments and so on). But my new challenge
is to find an easy way to create clients. I am exploring the methods
described in the site but I still didn´t find this "easy way."

Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to

> do?
> David
>

I was able (in a hard or simple way) to do everything I needed. But, like in
almost all projects I´ll find something that I can´t do, but, for now, I
don´t know what is this :).

thanks,

Wesley

>
> On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how to get
> > really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still dont
> have a
> > good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For now, I
> would
> > like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best would be
> if
> > someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation, code)
> and
> > so, try to develop sometrhing.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> > > > Hi everybody,
> > > >
> > > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be
> very
> > > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked
> at
> > > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
> > > >
> > > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that
> you
> > > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open
> > > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
> > >
> > > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like doing
> a
> > > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at some of
> the
> > > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
> > >
> > > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up with some
> > items!
> > >
> > > Sanjiva.
> > > --
> > > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> > > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
> http://www.opensource.lk/
> > > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> > > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> > > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > LIS/IC - UNICAMP
> > [skype: wesley.mesquita]
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by David Illsley <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Wesley, It's great to have someone interested in working on Axis2.
Welcome. I guess I'd suggest you try to 'scratch an itch'. You mention
you've been using Axis2.... is there anything that was really hard to
do? Anything you found you couldn't do that you'd like to be able to
do?
David

On Dec 5, 2007 2:56 PM, Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how to get
> really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still dont have a
> good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For now, I would
> like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best would be if
> someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation, code) and
> so, try to develop sometrhing.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> >
> > Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be very
> > > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked at
> > > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
> > >
> > > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that you
> > > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open
> > > source project to work in my summer vacation.
> >
> > There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like doing a
> > small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at some of the
> > pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
> >
> > If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up with some
> items!
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> > --
> > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
> > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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> LIS/IC - UNICAMP
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
I have never worked in a Open Source project, so I don't know how to get
really involved just seeing the JIRA's messages, because I still dont have a
good view of the areas that these problems are associated. For now, I would
like to get  simple tasks (in a small or big "thing"). The best would be if
someone can tell me an area to get involved (study documentation, code) and
so, try to develop sometrhing.

Thanks.

On Dec 5, 2007 12:44 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:

> Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be very
> > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked at
> > the site and I didn't found anything like this.
> >
> > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that you
> > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open
> > source project to work in my summer vacation.
>
> There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like doing a
> small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at some of the
> pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.
>
> If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up with some
> items!
>
> Sanjiva.
> --
> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/
>
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LIS/IC - UNICAMP
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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Wesley Mesquita wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be very 
> useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked at 
> the site and I didn't found anything like this.
> 
> PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that you 
> (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open 
> source project to work in my summer vacation.

There's a bunch of areas that you can work on! Do you feel like doing a 
small thing or something "large"? The best way is to look at some of the 
pending JIRAs and tackle some small things to get started on.

If you want specific big ideas holler again and I'll come up with some items!

Sanjiva.
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Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/

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Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com>.
Exactly!
Thanks.

On Dec 5, 2007 12:51 AM, Upul Godage <up...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hope this is useful.
> http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_3/Axis2ArchitectureGuide.html
>
> Upul
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 10:21 PM, Wesley Mesquita < wesleymesquita@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be very
> > useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked at the
> > site and I didn't found anything like this.
> >
> > PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that you
> > (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open source
> > project to work in my summer vacation.
> >
> > thanks.
> > --
> > Wesley Mesquita
> > LIS/IC - UNICAMP
> > www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/~wesley/index.php<http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/%7Ewesley/index.php>
> > [skype: wesley.mesquita]
>
>
>


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LIS/IC - UNICAMP
[skype: wesley.mesquita]

Re: Axis2 architecture documentation

Posted by Upul Godage <up...@gmail.com>.
Hope this is useful.
http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_3/Axis2ArchitectureGuide.html

Upul

On Dec 4, 2007 10:21 PM, Wesley Mesquita <we...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I am using Axis2 in my scientific work at University, and will be very
> useful the documentation about the architecture of Axis2. I looked at the
> site and I didn't found anything like this.
>
> PS : Are there any open problems in axis2 or anything specific that you
> (the developers team) want people to work ? I am looking for a open source
> project to work in my summer vacation.
>
> thanks.
> --
> Wesley Mesquita
> LIS/IC - UNICAMP
> www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/~wesley/index.php<http://www.lis.ic.unicamp.br/%7Ewesley/index.php>
> [skype: wesley.mesquita]