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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Greg Troxel <gd...@ir.bbn.com> on 2011/07/18 19:42:29 UTC

RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN

I got spam from constantcontact, claiming that I had signed up for itb

	* -1.5 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in

In trying to figure out what's wrong, searching lead me to:

  http://www.isipp.com/iadb.php

which was a sales pitch for 'deliverability' services, and has no
prominent way to report abuse.

( original spam available at http://www.lexort.com/spam/ )

In addition, I could find no wiki page about this rule.



I think that SA should adopt, as a core policy, that negative points
should not be assigned based on a pay-to-play whitelist unless the
whitelist maintains adequate, obvious, advertised, public reporting
channels and that it is the near-universal experience of SA users that
complaints are addressed in an adequate and timely manner.


Re: RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN

Posted by Jason Bertoch <ja...@i6ix.com>.
On 7/18/2011 2:44 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
> On 7/18/11 1:42 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> I got spam from constantcontact, claiming that I had signed up for itb
>>
>>     * -1.5 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in
>>
>> In trying to figure out what's wrong, searching lead me to:
>>
>>    http://www.isipp.com/iadb.php
>>
>> which was a sales pitch for 'deliverability' services, and has no
>> prominent way to report abuse.
>>
> i went round and round with iadb a couple of years ago.. gave up.
> However.. SA scores are (supposed to be) based on nightly runs, and 
> -1.5 isn't all that big a credit.
> I do, however, think all the 'pay to play' scores should have 
> noautolearn flags set on this.

Agreed.  See bug 
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6344, and please 
update it with your more-inclusive list.

/Jason

Re: RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN

Posted by Michael Scheidell <mi...@secnap.com>.
On 7/18/11 1:42 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
> I got spam from constantcontact, claiming that I had signed up for itb
>
> 	* -1.5 RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN RBL: IADB: All mailing list mail is opt-in
>
> In trying to figure out what's wrong, searching lead me to:
>
>    http://www.isipp.com/iadb.php
>
> which was a sales pitch for 'deliverability' services, and has no
> prominent way to report abuse.
>
i went round and round with iadb a couple of years ago.. gave up.
However.. SA scores are (supposed to be) based on nightly runs, and -1.5 
isn't all that big a credit.
I do, however, think all the 'pay to play' scores should have 
noautolearn flags set on this.

Its bad enough to get this drek in (once), but to have it continue to 
come in because the -1.5 points suddenly puts this into the auto learn, 
baysian, and AWL table.s

ps, there are worse scores, some with -5 points.  check them out 
youself, and adjust in your local.cf: ymmf

score RCVD_IN_IADB_VOUCHED 0 -1 0 -1
score FORGED_MUA_THEBAT_CS 0.1
score RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED -1
score RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE -1

tflags RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW  net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED     net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPR_MAT net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPR_30           net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPEAR            net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_UNVERIFIED_2        net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_UNVERIFIED_1        net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_SPF                 net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_SENDERID            net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS                net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTOUTONLY          net
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTOUTONLY 1
# why is RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTOUTONLY net nice? describe is: IADB: Scrapes 
addresses, pure opt-out only
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN_LT50          net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN_GT50          net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN               net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_NOCONTROL           net
score RCVD_IN_IADB_NOCONTROL 1
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_ML_DOPTIN           net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPR_MAT          net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPR_30           net nice noautolearn
tflags RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPEAR            net nice noautolearn



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