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[jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster
depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Craig L Russell closed LEGAL-279.
---------------------------------
Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Craig L Russell
Seems there is no more discussion needed.
If anyone wants to litigate further, please re-open this JIRA.
> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-279
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Ate Douma
> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>
> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
> {quote}
> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
> {quote}
> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code donation to Apache.
> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor) have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api and implementation).
> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part of the NetBeans core.
> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as platform for other products.
> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as "optional" as explained at \[3].
> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1bcd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced128768f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
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Re: Fwd: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Posted by Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>.
On 2016-11-08 20:34, Ate Douma wrote:
> We've got the green light from Apache Legal on the proposed solution!
>
> Which therefore also resolves https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1
Sorry, wrong dev@ list :-)
Please ignore.
>
> Regards, Ate
>
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> Subject: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster
> depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Craig L Russell (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
>
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> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> ]
>
> Craig L Russell closed LEGAL-279.
> ---------------------------------
> Resolution: Fixed
> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>
> Seems there is no more discussion needed.
>
> If anyone wants to litigate further, please re-open this JIRA.
>
>> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac
>> module
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Key: LEGAL-279
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
>> Project: Legal Discuss
>> Issue Type: Question
>> Reporter: Ate Douma
>> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>>
>> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the Apache
>> Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
>> {quote}
>> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
>> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external category-X
>> (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
>> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules will be
>> required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
>> {quote}
>> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible alternative
>> solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project dev@ list, with a
>> latest summary by me at \[2].
>> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java compiler,
>> and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code donation to Apache.
>> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor) have
>> an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api and
>> implementation).
>> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many NetBeans
>> users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part of the
>> NetBeans core.
>> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for
>> example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as
>> platform for other products.
>> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X nb-javac
>> module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java cluster modules,
>> assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as "optional" as
>> explained at \[3].
>> \[1]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1bcd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>>
>> \[2]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced128768f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>>
>> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
>
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Fwd: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Posted by Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>.
We've got the green light from Apache Legal on the proposed solution!
Which therefore also resolves https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1
Regards, Ate
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Subject: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster
depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Craig L Russell (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
To: legal-discuss@apache.org
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
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Craig L Russell closed LEGAL-279.
---------------------------------
Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Craig L Russell
Seems there is no more discussion needed.
If anyone wants to litigate further, please re-open this JIRA.
> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-279
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Ate Douma
> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>
> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
> {quote}
> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
> {quote}
> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code donation to Apache.
> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor) have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api and implementation).
> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part of the NetBeans core.
> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as platform for other products.
> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as "optional" as explained at \[3].
> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1bcd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced128768f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
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Fwd: [jira] [Created] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Woot indeed!
Thanks to everyone especially our mentors and especially Ate in particular
for managing this specific process so well.
Gj
On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wadechandler@apache.org');>> wrote:
> Woot...thanks Ate.
>
> Wade
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 2:37 PM, "Ate Douma" <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
>
> > We've got the green light from Apache Legal on the proposed solution!
> >
> > Which therefore also resolves https://issues.apache.org/jira
> > /browse/NETBEANS-1
> >
> > Regards, Ate
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
> cluster
> > depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Craig L Russell (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
> > Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> > To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> >
> >
> > [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.
> > atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
> >
> > Craig L Russell closed LEGAL-279.
> > ---------------------------------
> > Resolution: Fixed
> > Assignee: Craig L Russell
> >
> > Seems there is no more discussion needed.
> >
> > If anyone wants to litigate further, please re-open this JIRA.
> >
> > Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE
> >> nb-javac module
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -------------------------
> >>
> >> Key: LEGAL-279
> >> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
> >> Project: Legal Discuss
> >> Issue Type: Question
> >> Reporter: Ate Douma
> >> Assignee: Craig L Russell
> >>
> >> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the
> >> Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
> >> {quote}
> >> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
> >> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external
> >> category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
> >> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules
> >> will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module
> themselves.
> >> {quote}
> >> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible
> >> alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project
> >> dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
> >> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java
> >> compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code
> >> donation to Apache.
> >> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor)
> >> have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module
> (api
> >> and implementation).
> >> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many
> >> NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not
> part
> >> of the NetBeans core.
> >> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for
> >> example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using
> NetBeans as
> >> platform for other products.
> >> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X
> >> nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java
> >> cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded
> as
> >> "optional" as explained at \[3].
> >> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1b
> >> cd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced12876
> >> 8f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
> >>
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Re: Fwd: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
Woot...thanks Ate.
Wade
On Nov 8, 2016 2:37 PM, "Ate Douma" <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
> We've got the green light from Apache Legal on the proposed solution!
>
> Which therefore also resolves https://issues.apache.org/jira
> /browse/NETBEANS-1
>
> Regards, Ate
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster
> depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Craig L Russell (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
>
>
> [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.
> atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
>
> Craig L Russell closed LEGAL-279.
> ---------------------------------
> Resolution: Fixed
> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>
> Seems there is no more discussion needed.
>
> If anyone wants to litigate further, please re-open this JIRA.
>
> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE
>> nb-javac module
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------------------------
>>
>> Key: LEGAL-279
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
>> Project: Legal Discuss
>> Issue Type: Question
>> Reporter: Ate Douma
>> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>>
>> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the
>> Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
>> {quote}
>> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
>> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external
>> category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
>> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules
>> will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
>> {quote}
>> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible
>> alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project
>> dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
>> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java
>> compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code
>> donation to Apache.
>> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor)
>> have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api
>> and implementation).
>> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many
>> NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part
>> of the NetBeans core.
>> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for
>> example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as
>> platform for other products.
>> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X
>> nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java
>> cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as
>> "optional" as explained at \[3].
>> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1b
>> cd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced12876
>> 8f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
>>
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Fwd: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java
cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Posted by Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>.
We've got the green light from Apache Legal on the proposed solution!
Which therefore also resolves https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1
Regards, Ate
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [jira] [Closed] (LEGAL-279) Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster
depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Craig L Russell (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>
Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org
To: legal-discuss@apache.org
[
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
]
Craig L Russell closed LEGAL-279.
---------------------------------
Resolution: Fixed
Assignee: Craig L Russell
Seems there is no more discussion needed.
If anyone wants to litigate further, please re-open this JIRA.
> Apache NetBeans optional Java cluster depending on external GPLv2+CPE nb-javac module
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-279
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-279
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Ate Douma
> Assignee: Craig L Russell
>
> The Apache NetBeans incubator project is asking for an answer from the Apache Legal Affairs Committee to the following question:
> {quote}
> Is the Apache NetBeans project allowed to develop and release
> optional "Java cluster" modules which depends on the external category-X (GPLv2+CPE) licensed nb-javac module?
> NetBeans users who wants to use these optional "Java cluster" modules will be required to provide for or install the nb-javac module themselves.
> {quote}
> The proposed solution and the above question, as well as possible alternative solutions, have been discussed at length \[1] on the project dev@ list, with a latest summary by me at \[2].
> The nb-javac module is a NetBeans specific fork of the Java JDK Java compiler, and is explicitly excluded by Oracle from the NetBeans code donation to Apache.
> The NetBeans optional Java cluster modules (for example the Java Editor) have an direct compile and runtime dependency on the nb-javac module (api and implementation).
> While Java is an important optional module for NetBeans, and many NetBeans users do use/need it for Java development support, it is not part of the NetBeans core.
> NetBeans also has many users not using or needing the Java support, for example for C/C++, Javascript or PHP development, or when using NetBeans as platform for other products.
> The proposed solution, requiring end users to install the Category-X nb-javac module themselves, only if they want to use the NetBeans Java cluster modules, assumes that the Java cluster modules may be regarded as "optional" as explained at \[3].
> \[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/16b99577a9b219e87ff1b1bcd22edd2f2faf105f338d025350126d22@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7ebc9ae9d6e5fceced128768f6cf312e837348cc66c3fafde02cd666@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> \[3] http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
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