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[VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
for the NPanday poddling.
It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
the NPanday community and its mentors that
retirement is the only viable path at this point:
http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
http://s.apache.org/Efn
NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
producing two releases and adding mentors and
committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
Starting from September the poddling was back to
the usual levels:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
while missing Incubator reports:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
and at this point it feels like the most production option would
be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
[ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
[ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
[ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
+1
LieGrue,
strub
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015, 23:15, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> >T his is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because
> ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
+1 (binding)
On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
+1
- Henry
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
-Taylor
> On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>> for the NPanday poddling.
>>
>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>>
>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
>> the usual levels:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
>> while missing Incubator reports:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>>
>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>>
>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>>
>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...
>
> +1
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...
+1
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> ...We had a vote thread about a month ago: http://s.apache.org/HIF ...
And I voted -1 at that time (http://s.apache.org/Vqa) but my concern
has been addressed, hence my +1 above.
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:03 AM, jonathon <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 21/01/15 22:19, jan i wrote:
>> +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life
>> support has to be terminated at a point.
>
> Isn't this the podling that requested retirement months ago, and was
> told to give it one more try?
Sort of. We had a vote thread about a month ago: http://s.apache.org/HIF
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by jonathon <to...@gmail.com>.
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On 21/01/15 22:19, jan i wrote:
> +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life
> support has to be terminated at a point.
Isn't this the podling that requested retirement months ago, and was
told to give it one more try?
jonathon
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
+1 to retire. The half full aspect is that it looks like people are
doing something more useful with their time.
Hadrian
On 01/21/2015 05:19 PM, jan i wrote:
> +1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life
> support has to be terminated at a point.
>
> rgds
> jan i
>
> On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>> for the NPanday poddling.
>>
>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>>
>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
>> the usual levels:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
>> while missing Incubator reports:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>>
>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>>
>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>>
>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
>> because ...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
+1 Even though I do not like to see a podling end like this, but life
support has to be terminated at a point.
rgds
jan i
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Konstantin Boudnik <co...@apache.org>.
+1 [sadly]
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:13PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
+1 but it looks like a few people are interested in using and working on
that code, please make sure clear instructions are given to them about how
they can fork elsewhere.
>
>
-Bertrand
Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
+1
It's a cool idea, but the technology direction has gone a different way.
On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
+1
Retirement isn't a failure. It is just one of several options. Not every
projects needs to continue on original form, and not every project needs to
be at Apache.
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:06 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:59:21 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some
>> > basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-)
>>
>> Nah, its cool. I've initiated all the required steps and updated the
>> website.
>> At this point, we're waiting on INFRA to complete work on 4 JIRAs before
>> we can declare the podling to be fully retired.
>>
>
> Is how I listed it on the report accurate enough (for now)?
Looks fine for now. I'll update it with the latest status once report
is getting close to be finalized.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:59:21 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some
> > basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-)
>
> Nah, its cool. I've initiated all the required steps and updated the
> website.
> At this point, we're waiting on INFRA to complete work on 4 JIRAs before
> we can declare the podling to be fully retired.
>
Is how I listed it on the report accurate enough (for now)?
John
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:16 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some
> basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-)
Nah, its cool. I've initiated all the required steps and updated the website.
At this point, we're waiting on INFRA to complete work on 4 JIRAs before
we can declare the podling to be fully retired.
Thanks,
Roman.
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Hope I didn't throw you off, just wanted to make sure I was doing some
basic shepherding work (since I pulled the NPanday card this month :-)
John
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 8:06:51 PM Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:01 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
> >>
> >>
> > Yep, added a retired section.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final
> >> >> resolution summary.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired
> >> them
> >> > from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
> >> > unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> >> >>> for the NPanday poddling.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> >> >>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> >> >>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> >> >>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> >> >>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
> >> >>>
> >> >>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> >> >>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> >> >>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> >> >>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> >> >>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> >> >>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> >> >>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> >> >>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> >> >>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> >> >>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> >> >>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> >> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> >> >>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> >> >>> the usual levels:
> >> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> >> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
> npanday-commits/
> >> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
> npanday-users/
> >> >>> while missing Incubator reports:
> >> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> >> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> >> >>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> >> >>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> >> >>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> >> >>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> >> >>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> >> >>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> >> >>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> >> >>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> >> >>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> >> >>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> >> >>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> >> >>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> >> >>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> >> >>> because ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Roman.
> >> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
FWIW: Cos and I were planning to finalize the retirement steps today.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:01 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
>>
>>
> Yep, added a retired section.
>
> John
>
>
>> On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final
>> >> resolution summary.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired
>> them
>> > from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
>> > unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
>> >
>> >
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>> >>> for the NPanday poddling.
>> >>>
>> >>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
>> >>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
>> >>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
>> >>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
>> >>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>> >>>
>> >>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
>> >>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
>> >>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
>> >>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
>> >>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
>> >>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
>> >>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
>> >>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
>> >>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
>> >>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
>> >>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
>> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
>> >>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
>> >>> the usual levels:
>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
>> >>> while missing Incubator reports:
>> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
>> >>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
>> >>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
>> >>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>> >>>
>> >>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
>> >>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
>> >>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
>> >>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
>> >>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
>> >>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
>> >>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
>> >>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
>> >>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>> >>>
>> >>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>> >>>
>> >>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
>> >>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
>> >>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
>> >>> because ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Roman.
>> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:57:28 AM Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
>
>
Yep, added a retired section.
John
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
>
> > On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final
> >> resolution summary.
> >>
> >>
> > Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired
> them
> > from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
> > unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
> >
> >
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> >>> for the NPanday poddling.
> >>>
> >>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> >>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> >>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> >>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> >>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
> >>>
> >>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> >>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> >>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> >>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> >>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> >>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> >>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> >>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> >>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> >>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> >>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> >>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> >>> the usual levels:
> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> >>> while missing Incubator reports:
> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> >>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> >>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> >>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
> >>>
> >>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> >>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> >>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> >>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> >>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> >>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> >>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> >>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> >>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
> >>>
> >>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
> >>>
> >>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> >>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> >>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> >>> because ...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Roman.
> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
We need to report that NPanday is being retired.
On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:50 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
> On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final
>> resolution summary.
>>
>>
> Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired them
> from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
> unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
>
>
>> John
>>
>> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>>> for the NPanday poddling.
>>>
>>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
>>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
>>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
>>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
>>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>>>
>>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
>>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
>>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
>>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
>>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
>>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
>>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
>>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
>>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
>>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
>>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
>>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
>>> the usual levels:
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
>>> while missing Incubator reports:
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
>>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
>>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
>>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>>>
>>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
>>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
>>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
>>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
>>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
>>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
>>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
>>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
>>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>>>
>>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>>>
>>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
>>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
>>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
>>> because ...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 7:48:11 AM John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final
> resolution summary.
>
>
Nevermind, got thrown off in my search by a late vote. I just retired them
from podlings.xml and will remove them from the board report shortly,
unless someone feels having them on there will still help.
> John
>
> On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
>> for the NPanday poddling.
>>
>> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
>> the NPanday community and its mentors that
>> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
>> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
>> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>>
>> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
>> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
>> producing two releases and adding mentors and
>> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
>> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
>> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
>> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
>> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
>> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
>> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
>> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
>> Starting from September the poddling was back to
>> the usual levels:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
>> while missing Incubator reports:
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
>> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
>> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
>> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>>
>> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
>> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
>> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
>> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
>> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
>> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
>> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
>> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
>> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>>
>> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>>
>> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
>> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
>> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
>> because ...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
So, at this point, is this resolved? I may have missed the final
resolution summary.
John
On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:15:33 PM Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
> This is a vote on recommending a retirement option
> for the NPanday poddling.
>
> It comes on the hills of the general consensus of
> the NPanday community and its mentors that
> retirement is the only viable path at this point:
> http://markmail.org/thread/litmh5wmwbclrk6n
> http://s.apache.org/Efn
>
> NPanday entered incubator on 13th of August 2010:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/npanday.html
> Up until 2012 the poddling was doing reasonably well,
> producing two releases and adding mentors and
> committers. Starting from 2012 the community started
> to dwindle and no further releases were produced.
> Starting from 2014 the poddling really struggled to
> regain vitality despite of numerous attempts to help
> by Brett Porter and Konstantin Boudnik. The most
> visible attempt was in July/August 2014 and resulted in
> a spur of JIRA and ML activity, but couldn't be sustained
> without direct involvement of Brett and Konstantin:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2014
> Starting from September the poddling was back to
> the usual levels:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-dev/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-commits/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-npanday-users/
> while missing Incubator reports:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2014
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014
> and having absolutely 0 commits coming into the repository.
> It now appears that that all of the PPMC has been disengaged
> and the user community for the project is pretty much non existent.
>
> IPMC has been monitoring the situation all throughout 2014:
> http://markmail.org/message/3sbwfpedosyqzqhn
> http://markmail.org/message/c2fbokolyujki3gl
> http://markmail.org/thread/3ttavmqnq5s6pe74
> http://markmail.org/message/bxelz5ati2hofe4y
> and at this point it feels like the most production option would
> be to recommend retirement of the poddling. Should
> the VOTE pass, Konstantin and myself are volunteering
> to take care of the poddling retirement mechanics.
>
> Vote will run for at least 72 hours (to 1/26/14, noon PST).
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator
> because ...
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend retirement for NPanday poddling
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
+1
Regards,
Alan
> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rv...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> [ ] +1 Recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator.
> [ ] +/-0 Don't care, but...
> [ ] -1 Don't recommend retiring NPanday poddling from the Incubator because ...