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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Alex Kotchnev <ak...@gmail.com> on 2009/12/31 00:26:44 UTC
Re: Best server for development and for production?
Juan,
If you use the latest NetBeans (6.8) it support compile-on-save/copy-on-save
for both standard and maven based projects, which works perfectly
(equivalent and better than the deploy on save w/ other app servers) w/
Jetty and T5's live class reloading.
For Tomcat & Glassfish NetBeans support deploy-on-save ; however, that is
slower and somewhat more intrusive .
I remember that there were some hurdles w/ getting T5 apps to work w/
Glassfish in the past due to xml parser conflicts, so there were a few
things to do.
So, to answer the question directly, for me it goes like this : Jetty,
Tomcat, Glassfish
Cheers,
Alex K
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Toby Hobson <to...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> For development I use jetty along with JRebel. Jetty, JRebel and T5's
> dynamic class reloading make a perfect combination ... I can change pages,
> components, model objects, even spring beans on the fly. For production I
> used to deploy on Tomcat or Weblogic although I've recently moved across to
> Glassfish and have been very happy so far. Incidentally we don't bother
> with
> the various appserver plugin's for IDEs ... running weblogic/glassfish on a
> development machine seems crazy to me ... that's what the staging/test
> environment is for!
>
> Toby
>
> 2009/11/18 Juan E. Maya <ma...@gmail.com>
>
> > I use tomcat with the sysdeo plugin
> > (http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin.html), although as pointed
> > out by Tiago tapestry reduces the need of deploy-on-change, still the
> > code in the business layer of the application requires a redeploy.
> > Sysdeo although not perfect, reduces the deploys to changes Hibernate
> > mappings or when u add new methods to ur classes (Non-Managed by
> > tapestry)
> >
> > I have never used glassfish so i couldn;t say how they compare
> >
> > U could also check JRebel (http://www.zeroturnaround.com/jrebel/) for
> > a more robust solution
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> > <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Em Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:54:04 -0200, Alessandro Bottoni
> > > <al...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > >
> > >> Hi All,
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > >> in your opinion, which is the best server (servlet container,
> actually)
> > >> for Tapestry?
> > >
> > > Definitely, Jetty, at least for development, maybe also for production.
> > > Small, easy to configure, fast. That's what I use for development and
> > > production.
> > >
> > >> It seems that Glassfish has an advantage over other solutions in the
> > >> development environment because of the deploy-on-change feature
> supplied
> > >> by NetBeans and Eclipse plug-ins but...
> > >
> > > I have a bad experience about it: deploys on change failed seemingly
> > > randomly. I just run Jetty over an exploded WAR. Works like a charm.
> > > By the way, deploy-on-change doesn't make any sense when used with
> > > Tapestry's live class realoading.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> > > Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant,
> developer,
> > and
> > > instructor
> > > Owner, software architect and developer, Ars Machina Tecnologia da
> > > Informação Ltda.
> > > http://www.arsmachina.com.br
> > >
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Re: Best server for development and for production?
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Alex Kotchnev <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Juan,
>
>
> If you use the latest NetBeans (6.8) it support compile-on-save/copy-on-save
> for both standard and maven based projects, which works perfectly
> (equivalent and better than the deploy on save w/ other app servers) w/
> Jetty and T5's live class reloading.
>
> For Tomcat & Glassfish NetBeans support deploy-on-save ; however, that is
> slower and somewhat more intrusive .
>
> I remember that there were some hurdles w/ getting T5 apps to work w/
> Glassfish in the past due to xml parser conflicts, so there were a few
> things to do.
Yes, though the 5.2 code reverts to using the standard, available SAX
(not StAX) parser.
>
> So, to answer the question directly, for me it goes like this : Jetty,
> Tomcat, Glassfish
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alex K
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Toby Hobson <to...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> For development I use jetty along with JRebel. Jetty, JRebel and T5's
>> dynamic class reloading make a perfect combination ... I can change pages,
>> components, model objects, even spring beans on the fly. For production I
>> used to deploy on Tomcat or Weblogic although I've recently moved across to
>> Glassfish and have been very happy so far. Incidentally we don't bother
>> with
>> the various appserver plugin's for IDEs ... running weblogic/glassfish on a
>> development machine seems crazy to me ... that's what the staging/test
>> environment is for!
>>
>> Toby
>>
>> 2009/11/18 Juan E. Maya <ma...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > I use tomcat with the sysdeo plugin
>> > (http://www.eclipsetotale.com/tomcatPlugin.html), although as pointed
>> > out by Tiago tapestry reduces the need of deploy-on-change, still the
>> > code in the business layer of the application requires a redeploy.
>> > Sysdeo although not perfect, reduces the deploys to changes Hibernate
>> > mappings or when u add new methods to ur classes (Non-Managed by
>> > tapestry)
>> >
>> > I have never used glassfish so i couldn;t say how they compare
>> >
>> > U could also check JRebel (http://www.zeroturnaround.com/jrebel/) for
>> > a more robust solution
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>> > <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Em Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:54:04 -0200, Alessandro Bottoni
>> > > <al...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi All,
>> > >
>> > > Hi!
>> > >
>> > >> in your opinion, which is the best server (servlet container,
>> actually)
>> > >> for Tapestry?
>> > >
>> > > Definitely, Jetty, at least for development, maybe also for production.
>> > > Small, easy to configure, fast. That's what I use for development and
>> > > production.
>> > >
>> > >> It seems that Glassfish has an advantage over other solutions in the
>> > >> development environment because of the deploy-on-change feature
>> supplied
>> > >> by NetBeans and Eclipse plug-ins but...
>> > >
>> > > I have a bad experience about it: deploys on change failed seemingly
>> > > randomly. I just run Jetty over an exploded WAR. Works like a charm.
>> > > By the way, deploy-on-change doesn't make any sense when used with
>> > > Tapestry's live class realoading.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>> > > Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant,
>> developer,
>> > and
>> > > instructor
>> > > Owner, software architect and developer, Ars Machina Tecnologia da
>> > > Informação Ltda.
>> > > http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>> > >
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>>
>
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