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[Issue 126269] New: Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced
Fonts
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126269
Issue ID: 126269
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
Summary: Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced Fonts
Product: Writer
Version: 4.1.1
Hardware: PC
OS: Windows XP
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P5
Component: editing
Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
Reporter: openofficebugs@gmail.com
Monospaced fonts such as Courier require two spaces after the end of a
sentence.
Disabling the "Ignore double spaces" option is a partial solution, since users
can still type sentences with one space between them.
Would it be possible to enforce two spaces between sentences just for this
font?
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[Issue 126269] Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced Fonts
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oooforum <oo...@free.fr> changed:
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Resolution|--- |NOT_AN_ISSUE
Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
--- Comment #1 from oooforum <oo...@free.fr> ---
Your bug report is being closed as NOT_AN_ISSUE due to a lack of information
which is needed in order to accurately reproduce and confirm the problem. We
need the following information:
a) Provide a step-by-step procedure to reproduce (the simpler will be the
better)
b) Provide any test case(s) which will help us confirm the problem (like a
sample document)
c) Provide screenshots of the problem if you think it might help
Once all of this is done, please set the bug back to UNCONFIRMED and we will
attempt to reproduce the issue.
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[Issue 126269] Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced Fonts
Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126269
--- Comment #7 from openofficebugs@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #5)
>
> From some other discussions (for example on dict.cc) I guess, that a double
> space was taught for writing English on typewriters in some countries about
> 50 years ago.
>
Is that necessarily a bad thing?
For all we know, it might expand the OpenOffice user base :-)
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[Issue 126269] Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced Fonts
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oooforum <oo...@free.fr> changed:
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Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |NOT_AN_ISSUE
--- Comment #8 from oooforum <oo...@free.fr> ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #5)
> I support "NOT_AN_ISSUE".
As agreed: closed
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[Issue 126269] Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced Fonts
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--- Comment #6 from openofficebugs@gmail.com ---
(In reply to mroe from comment #4)
> Please provide informations (link?) which describes that 2 spaces after a
> sentence is typographical correct. (Only this can and will be a basis for a
> possible change.)
> Monospaced fonts are equivalent to the fonts of a typewriter. I've never
> seen that anyone wrote two spaces after a sentence.
Here's a link to a blog post that describes the historical development of
sentence spacing:
http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324
Here are some relevant excerpts:
* Literally centuries of typesetters and printers believed that a wider space
was necessary after a period, particularly in the English-speaking world. It
was the standard since at least the time that William Caslon created the first
English typeface in the early 1700s (and part of a tradition that went back
further), and it was not seriously questioned among English or American
typesetters until the 1920s or so.
* The “standard” of one space is maybe 60 years old at the most, with some
publishers retaining wider spaces as a house style well into the 1950s and even
a few in the 1960s.
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--- Comment #4 from mroe <mr...@gmx.net> ---
Please provide informations (link?) which describes that 2 spaces after a
sentence is typographical correct. (Only this can and will be a basis for a
possible change.)
Monospaced fonts are equivalent to the fonts of a typewriter. I've never seen
that anyone wrote two spaces after a sentence.
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[Issue 126269] Two Spaces Between Sentences for Monospaced Fonts
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--- Comment #3 from openofficebugs@gmail.com ---
(In reply to oooforum from comment #1)
> Your bug report is being closed as NOT_AN_ISSUE due to a lack of information
> which is needed in order to accurately reproduce and confirm the problem. We
> need the following information:
>
> a) Provide a step-by-step procedure to reproduce (the simpler will be the
> better)
>
> b) Provide any test case(s) which will help us confirm the problem (like a
> sample document)
>
> c) Provide screenshots of the problem if you think it might help
>
> Once all of this is done, please set the bug back to UNCONFIRMED and we will
> attempt to reproduce the issue.
a) Step-by-step procedure:
First, start OpenOffice Writer. Then, set the font to a monospaced font such
as Courier. Next, type two or more sentences. Writer will allow you to put
only one space after the period in each sentence, even though monospaced fonts
require two spaces after the period.
b) Test cases:
Please see the document attached to Comment #2.
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Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> changed:
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URL| |http://ec.europa.eu/transla
| |tion/writing/style_guides/e
| |nglish/style_guide_en.pdf
CC| |rb.henschel@t-online.de
--- Comment #5 from Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de> ---
Please look at section 3.1 in "English Style Guide" (link above in URL). It
says, "stops (. ? ! : ;) are always followed by only a single (not a double)
space."
There is no exception for monospaced fonts.
>From some other discussions (for example on dict.cc) I guess, that a double
space was taught for writing English on typewriters in some countries about 50
years ago.
I support "NOT_AN_ISSUE".
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--- Comment #2 from openofficebugs@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 84712
--> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=84712&action=edit
Courier font test case
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Resolution|NOT_AN_ISSUE |---
Status|RESOLVED |UNCONFIRMED
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