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Posted to dev@couchdb.apache.org by Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org> on 2008/03/14 19:41:24 UTC

Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Which do we want? I would vote for commits.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:08:24AM -0700, Joe Schaefer (JIRA) wrote:
>
>     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1540?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12578857#action_12578857 ]
>
> Joe Schaefer commented on INFRA-1540:
> -------------------------------------
>
> Where would you like the wiki diff emails
> to go?  couchdb-commits@incubator
> or couchdb-dev@incubator?
>
>
>
> > CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: INFRA-1540
> >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1540
> >             Project: Infrastructure
> >          Issue Type: Task
> >      Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> >          Components: MoinMoin
> >            Reporter: Noah Slater
> >
> > The CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up.
> > If there is a choice we would prefer a project exclusive wiki and not a shared one.
> > Thank you.
>

--
Noah Slater <http://bytesexual.org/>

Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmx.de>.
On 15.03.2008, at 14:50, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:48:11PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> The hope is that eventually CouchDB will become a PMC.  The PMC will
>> be responsible for for the project.  As long as this dividing line
>> doesn't result in Subversion or MoinMoin changes going unmonitored,
>> there isn't a problem.
>
> Okay, I think I have reversed my position. It makes more sense to  
> keep commits
> as a pure Subversion monitoring list, I think.
>
> Come on Chris, Jan, Damien... weigh in! :)

I don't have a strong preference, but I lean slightly towards couchdb- 
commits.

In essence, change notifications about wiki content and code are  
pretty similar with similar purposes. Ticket notification mails OTOH  
are more "conversational" (at least in theory), fitting in with a  
development discussion list. The other thing is simply traffic. Actual  
discussions can easily get lost among notification mails on a list.

So I'd prefer couchdb-commits, but could also live with couchdb-dev.

Cheers,
Chris
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Christopher Lenz
   cmlenz at gmx.de
   http://www.cmlenz.net/


Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org>.
I can't make my mind up, so I will abstain from the vote. :)

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Noah Slater <http://bytesexual.org/>

Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
On Mar 15, 2008, at 9:50 , Noah Slater wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:48:11PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
>> The hope is that eventually CouchDB will become a PMC.  The PMC will
>> be responsible for for the project.  As long as this dividing line
>> doesn't result in Subversion or MoinMoin changes going unmonitored,
>> there isn't a problem.
>
> Okay, I think I have reversed my position. It makes more sense to  
> keep commits
> as a pure Subversion monitoring list, I think.
>
> Come on Chris, Jan, Damien... weigh in! :)

+1 for -commits
+0 for -dev

Jan
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Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org>.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:48:11PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> The hope is that eventually CouchDB will become a PMC.  The PMC will
> be responsible for for the project.  As long as this dividing line
> doesn't result in Subversion or MoinMoin changes going unmonitored,
> there isn't a problem.

Okay, I think I have reversed my position. It makes more sense to keep commits
as a pure Subversion monitoring list, I think.

Come on Chris, Jan, Damien... weigh in! :)

--
Noah Slater <http://bytesexual.org/>

Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:44:56PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
>  > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org> wrote:
>  > > Which do we want? I would vote for commits.
>  >
>  > Why?  :-)
>
>  I guess it comes down to email management.
>
>  I see a division between mailing list discussions or JIRA commenting and the
>  automatically generated notifications from Subversion or MoinMoin.

The hope is that eventually CouchDB will become a PMC.  The PMC will
be responsible for for the project.  As long as this dividing line
doesn't result in Subversion or MoinMoin changes going unmonitored,
there isn't a problem.

>  For that reason alone, it makes sense to split these into separate lists.
>
>  Admittedly, the disparity between the name "commits" and the process of updating
>  a wiki irks me a little, but that might mean that the list could have a better
>  name, could do with being two lists for MoinMoin and Subersion or me being wrong.
>
>  I don't feel strongly either way.
>
>  > P.S.  Don't treat this as a challenge.  There isn't a wrong answer.
>
>  You're going to have to do a lot better than that to put me on the defensive. ;)

:-)

- Sam Ruby

Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org>.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 02:44:56PM -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org> wrote:
> > Which do we want? I would vote for commits.
>
> Why?  :-)

I guess it comes down to email management.

I see a division between mailing list discussions or JIRA commenting and the
automatically generated notifications from Subversion or MoinMoin.

For that reason alone, it makes sense to split these into separate lists.

Admittedly, the disparity between the name "commits" and the process of updating
a wiki irks me a little, but that might mean that the list could have a better
name, could do with being two lists for MoinMoin and Subersion or me being wrong.

I don't feel strongly either way.

> P.S.  Don't treat this as a challenge.  There isn't a wrong answer.

You're going to have to do a lot better than that to put me on the defensive. ;)

--
Noah Slater <http://bytesexual.org/>

Re: [jira] Commented: (INFRA-1540) CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up

Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@bytesexual.org> wrote:
> Which do we want? I would vote for commits.

Why?  :-)

- Sam Ruby

P.S.  Don't treat this as a challenge.  There isn't a wrong answer.

>  On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:08:24AM -0700, Joe Schaefer (JIRA) wrote:
>  >
>  >     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1540?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12578857#action_12578857 ]
>  >
>  > Joe Schaefer commented on INFRA-1540:
>  > -------------------------------------
>  >
>  > Where would you like the wiki diff emails
>  > to go?  couchdb-commits@incubator
>  > or couchdb-dev@incubator?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > > CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up
>  > > -----------------------------------------------------
>  > >
>  > >                 Key: INFRA-1540
>  > >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1540
>  > >             Project: Infrastructure
>  > >          Issue Type: Task
>  > >      Security Level: public(Regular issues)
>  > >          Components: MoinMoin
>  > >            Reporter: Noah Slater
>  > >
>  > > The CouchDB Podling would like a MoinMoin wiki setting up.
>  > > If there is a choice we would prefer a project exclusive wiki and not a shared one.
>  > > Thank you.
>  >
>
>  --
>  Noah Slater <http://bytesexual.org/>
>