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Posted to j-dev@xerces.apache.org by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com> on 2001/01/30 06:31:05 UTC
[VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
At the Xerces-J Workshop in October, it was suggested that we
move the current xerces-j-dev mailing list to xerces-j-users. It
was also suggest that we then create 2 new lists, xerces-j-dev
and xerces2-jdev.
So for a belated new years resolution, here's a call for 3 votes
1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
3. create a xerces2-jdev
Please vote!
Ted
Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
What is see is:
a bunch of +1's for xerces-j-user
a bunch of +1's for xerces-j-dev,
a -1 for xerces-j2-dev or whatever it is
So if the votes don't change, we'll get
xerces-j-user
xerces-j-dev --- for now for all xerces versions development.
If we want to have a discussion on xerces2-j-dev, we can do that.
I mostly care about separating the user and developer lists.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnaud Le Hors" <le...@us.ibm.com>
To: <xe...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
> Ted Leung wrote:
> >
> > At this writing, I count votes from 4 commmiters. At the end of
> > the day tomorrow I'll ask Dirk or James or whoever has root on
> > the right machine to do the deed.
>
> Could you please expand on what you actually plan to ask Dirk to do?
> >From what I've seen people don't agree with your original proposal. I
> have the feeling that we'd have an agreement on moving user traffic to a
> new list xerces-j-user and keep the existing xerces-j-dev list for all
> development discussions. Is that what you plan to ask Dirk to do?
> If that's the case, in order to avoid another round of vote, I would
> suggest we assume that to be the case and have anybody raise his/her
> voice if he/she disagrees.
> Thanks.
> --
> Arnaud Le Hors - IBM Cupertino, XML Strategy Group
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Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Arnaud Le Hors <le...@us.ibm.com>.
Ted Leung wrote:
>
> At this writing, I count votes from 4 commmiters. At the end of
> the day tomorrow I'll ask Dirk or James or whoever has root on
> the right machine to do the deed.
Could you please expand on what you actually plan to ask Dirk to do?
Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Ted Leung <tw...@sauria.com>.
At this writing, I count votes from 4 commmiters. At the end of
the day tomorrow I'll ask Dirk or James or whoever has root on
the right machine to do the deed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Clark" <an...@apache.org>
To: <xe...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
> +1 xerces-j-user
> +0 xerces2-j-dev
>
> xerces-j-dev will be fine for development discussions of both
> Xerces 1.x and Xerces2, assuming that people actually move their
> questions to -user.
>
> Now we're in the same quandry as the last time this topic was
> discussed: who has the authority to create the lists on the
> server?
>
> --
> Andy Clark * IBM, TRL - Japan * andyc@apache.org
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Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Andy Clark <an...@apache.org>.
+1 xerces-j-user
+0 xerces2-j-dev
xerces-j-dev will be fine for development discussions of both
Xerces 1.x and Xerces2, assuming that people actually move their
questions to -user.
Now we're in the same quandry as the last time this topic was
discussed: who has the authority to create the lists on the
server?
--
Andy Clark * IBM, TRL - Japan * andyc@apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Edwin Goei <Ed...@eng.sun.com>.
> Ted Leung wrote:
>
> At the Xerces-J Workshop in October, it was suggested that we
> move the current xerces-j-dev mailing list to xerces-j-users. It
> was also suggest that we then create 2 new lists, xerces-j-dev
> and xerces2-jdev.
>
> So for a belated new years resolution, here's a call for 3 votes
I believe this was voted on at least once before (probably twice) and
passed before, but I'll cast my vote again...
>
> 1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
+1, prefer the name "xerces-j-user" to be consistent with most other
apache list names
> 2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
+1
> 3. create a xerces2-jdev
+1, prefer the name "xerces2-j-dev" to be consistent with "xerces-j-dev"
-Edwin
Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Bob Jamison <rj...@lincom-asg.com>.
Ted Leung wrote:
> At the Xerces-J Workshop in October, it was suggested that we
>
> move the current xerces-j-dev mailing list to xerces-j-users. It
>
> was also suggest that we then create 2 new lists, xerces-j-dev
>
> and xerces2-jdev.
>
>
>
> So for a belated new years resolution, here's a call for 3 votes
>
>
>
> 1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
>
+1 sounds good
> 2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
>
+1 ditto
> 3. create a xerces2-jdev
>
+0 Only my poor opinion, but I believe it would be a big backwards step
to split xerces1.x and xerces2 discussions.
Such a division might engender on this list the same kind of schism
that is threatening to infect the jakarta-tomcat lists between tomcat3.x
and tomcat4.
We use xerces1.x every day and love it, but I believe that
merging the xerces and crimson families together is very important.
>
>
> Please vote!
>
>
>
> Ted
>
Bob
Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Arnaud Le Hors <le...@us.ibm.com>.
> Ted Leung wrote:
>
> So for a belated new years resolution, here's a call for 3 votes
>
> 1. rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
+1 (-user is fine as well, if it makes it more consistent with other
mailing lists)
> 2. create a blank xerces-j-dev
+1
> 3. create a xerces2-jdev
-1. The name is wrong and I agree with Libor, once all the user related
traffic moves to another list all the dev traffic can most likely stay
on the same list.
I'd vote -0 to xerces2-j-dev if everybody else really insist on having a
separate list.
--
Arnaud Le Hors - IBM Cupertino, XML Strategy Group
Re: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Petr Kuzel <Pe...@netbeans.com>.
* rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
Vote +1
* create a blank xerces-j-dev
Vote +1
Ccc
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RE: [VOTE] Mailing lists cleanup
Posted by Jay Cain <ja...@cett.msstate.edu>.
* rename xerces-j-dev to xerces-j-users
Vote +1
* create a blank xerces-j-dev
Vote +1
* create a xerces2-jdev
Vote -1
* create a xerces2-j-dev
Vote +1
Jay