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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by "Dain Sundstrom (JIRA)" <de...@geronimo.apache.org> on 2005/10/31 20:54:56 UTC
[jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-680) New users "buy-in" hampered by inability to automatically rebuild sub-assemblies at runtime
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-680?page=all ]
Dain Sundstrom closed GERONIMO-680:
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> New users "buy-in" hampered by inability to automatically rebuild sub-assemblies at runtime
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> Key: GERONIMO-680
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-680
> Project: Geronimo
> Type: Improvement
> Reporter: Sing Li
> Fix For: 1.0-M5
> Attachments: ScriptingModule.patch
>
> Sizable population of current Tomcat, Jetty,
> OpenEJB, and ActiveMQ users will soon take a look at
> Geronimo.
> Unfortunately, they are very likely to walk away out of
> pure frustration :-(
> The current usage model for these products are very similar
> to that of the Apache web server. A user can:
> 1. change the config file, for example httpd.conf
> 2. restart the server, for example ... via apachectl
> 3. immediately try the new server in action
> This model allows for rapid revision/iteration
> during experimentation, debugging, and on-the-fly
> config rewrites.
> Unfortunately, attempting to do the same with
> their favourite server INSIDE Geronimo will
> (today) require:
> 1. download of the entire Geronimo source base
> 2. research and understand Maven
> 3. research and understand SVN and CVS
> 4. understand the Geronimo build process
> 5. crossed digits during assorted build failures -
> out-of-sync repository, server lock-ups, etc
> 6. days on end searching mailing list archives (if
> the search feature isn't still broken)
> 7. endless hours lurking on the IRC
> 8. days and days of wondering why he/she is doing it
> All of this is required to make a simple change
> that formerly equates to a text file edit
> and server restart.
> Somewhere between step 1 and 8 above, most sane
> user would have quit, disappointed.
> Not every server user aspires to become a
> server-system developer :-(
>
> Even though this problems will likely go away once
> GUI admin/deployment/configuration tools
> and GUI assemblies-construction-kits become available,
> there is an obvious need to address the usability
> issue in the interim.
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