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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com> on 2012/01/12 17:31:20 UTC
Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Hi,
for the dev builds I plan to provide (asap) I have simply used Drew's
proposals, added some of by my own and have built a Mac version.
I have some minor problems with the OOo-Dev dmg installer background
images where I am working on. But ou can get a first impression how
would look like under
Backing window + About box
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/backing_window-about.png
Intro image
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/intro.png
MacOS dmg background
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png
well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try to
improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
Juergen
Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by Larry Gusaas <la...@gmail.com>.
On 2012-01-12 1:25 PM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> 3.3 I like the use of the OO Orb, although that has not been discussed as an element of branding. I would like to see it used in many places, including insignias and file-association icons, where it can be very small yet clearly recognizable. There is a matter of asserting trademark for it, though.
The OOo Orb was part of the branding change imposed on OOo by Oracle, along with the colourless
file icons. I preferred the previous versions that had the birds without an orb
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RE: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Drew,
1. I notice that Jürgen's MAC image still has "Open.Office.org" in places (e.g., under the Orb and in the title of the screen). I like it too.
2. The new install images are interesting. When you are satisfied with the set, I am going to add the applicable ones (preferably the PNGs) to my QA review of all of the install images that happen on Windows, so they can be seen in the context in which those users will see them. (I am not sure whether the same !-image inclusions can appear on different wiki pages and work or whether each page needs its own set of resources. I will test that today.)
3. Second-order observations on the install-images.zip. I like these offerings and the best first thing is to have the images where they can be reviewed and compared and revised. Looking ahead:
3.1 I notice some inconsistencies in the use of the logo and other branding elements among the different elements.
3.2 Something is definitely needed for the smaller images that don't have many pixels in which to be clearly presented.
3.3 I like the use of the OO Orb, although that has not been discussed as an element of branding. I would like to see it used in many places, including insignias and file-association icons, where it can be very small yet clearly recognizable. There is a matter of asserting trademark for it, though.
3.4 The osxdndinstall image is wonderfully clean.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: drew [mailto:drew@baseanswers.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:01
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 17:31 +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
[ ... ]
>
> MacOS dmg background
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png
> well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try to
> improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
>
Hi Juergen
I really like the MAC image..nice.
Want to add the hc image files also, before I put this to the wiki but
here is what is on my machine right this minute:
http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/install-images.zip
Changed the text on the Intro screen.
The base logo file is refined IMO, did not included the actual svg file
for that in this zip file, will add it separately to the wiki, directly.
anyway - would welcome feed back on the images as they are.
//drew
Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by drew <dr...@baseanswers.com>.
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 17:31 +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> for the dev builds I plan to provide (asap) I have simply used Drew's
> proposals, added some of by my own and have built a Mac version.
>
> I have some minor problems with the OOo-Dev dmg installer background
> images where I am working on. But ou can get a first impression how
> would look like under
>
> Backing window + About box
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/backing_window-about.png
>
> Intro image
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/intro.png
>
> MacOS dmg background
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png
> well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try to
> improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
>
Hi Juergen
I really like the MAC image..nice.
Want to add the hc image files also, before I put this to the wiki but
here is what is on my machine right this minute:
http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/install-images.zip
Changed the text on the Intro screen.
The base logo file is refined IMO, did not included the actual svg file
for that in this zip file, will add it separately to the wiki, directly.
anyway - would welcome feed back on the images as they are.
//drew
Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 1/12/12 9:04 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>
> Hi *,
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 05:31:20PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> for the dev builds I plan to provide (asap) I have simply used
>> Drew's proposals, added some of by my own and have built a Mac
>> version.
>>
>> I have some minor problems with the OOo-Dev dmg installer background
>> images where I am working on. But ou can get a first impression how
>> would look like under
>>
>> Backing window + About box
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/backing_window-about.png
>>
>> Intro image
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/intro.png
>>
>> MacOS dmg background
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png
>> well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try
>> to improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
>>
>> Juergen
>
>
> they look nice. I wonder if "Incubating" is required there. This is an
> Apache jargon, I doubt it would have any sense for English speaking
> users; and more problematic for non-English speaking user: the text is
> not localized. IMO "Incubating" only adds more confusion to the already
> existing confusion in our user base. If this is not an Apache
> requirement, it would be nice to remove it from the logos.
I agree and would prefer this as well. The important point for me is
that the project is "incubating" but not the product. And I agree to rob
that it should be sufficient to mentioned this in the text on the
project sites.
Well we can use logos with the "Incubating" string on the websites but
we should not use it in the product if possible.
Juergen
>
> Reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> it is not very clear to me:
>
> Naming
> After a podling has been approved, the lists are created, and the
> initial code drop has commenced, the podling MUST be referred to as
> Apache "Podling-Name" AND mention that the project is under Incubation.
> Suitable mentions include:
> Inclusion of the http://incubator.apache.org/"podling-name" URL
> Apache "Podling-Name" is currently undergoing Incubation at the Apache
> Software Foundation.
> Other references may only be used upon prior approval by the Incubator
> PMC. These statements only need to be disclosed upon the first reference
> in a document.
>
>
> Incubator Logo
> Podlings websites SHOULD contain the Apache Incubator Project logo as
> sign of affiliation.
>
>
> I understand this as:
>
> We have to MENTION that the project is under Incubation, this does not
> mean to put "Incubating" in the logo:
>
> * the splash screen already says AOO is incubating in the text "Build
> contributed..."
> * The can be done in the About dialog edit field
> * etc etc
>
>
>
> Regards
Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<ar...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi *,
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 05:31:20PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> for the dev builds I plan to provide (asap) I have simply used
>> Drew's proposals, added some of by my own and have built a Mac
>> version.
>>
>> I have some minor problems with the OOo-Dev dmg installer background
>> images where I am working on. But ou can get a first impression how
>> would look like under
>>
>> Backing window + About box
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/backing_window-about.png
>>
>> Intro image
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/intro.png
>>
>> MacOS dmg background
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png
>> well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try
>> to improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
>>
>> Juergen
>
>
> they look nice. I wonder if "Incubating" is required there. This is an
> Apache jargon, I doubt it would have any sense for English speaking
> users; and more problematic for non-English speaking user: the text is
> not localized. IMO "Incubating" only adds more confusion to the already
> existing confusion in our user base. If this is not an Apache
> requirement, it would be nice to remove it from the logos.
>
I was thinking something similar. If we can leave "incubating" out
of the logo, and just give the required language, in text, in the
dialog, then we do not need to change the logo when we graduate. I
don't think it makes sense to mix the "status" of the project with the
"brand" of the project. The status of a podling is meant to let users
and visitors to our website know that the project may not have all the
qualities of a TLP at Apache, in terms of maturity. But that is not
our brand.
> Reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> it is not very clear to me:
>
> Naming
> After a podling has been approved, the lists are created, and the
> initial code drop has commenced, the podling MUST be referred to as
> Apache "Podling-Name" AND mention that the project is under Incubation.
> Suitable mentions include:
> Inclusion of the http://incubator.apache.org/"podling-name" URL
> Apache "Podling-Name" is currently undergoing Incubation at the Apache
> Software Foundation.
> Other references may only be used upon prior approval by the Incubator
> PMC. These statements only need to be disclosed upon the first reference
> in a document.
>
>
> Incubator Logo
> Podlings websites SHOULD contain the Apache Incubator Project logo as
> sign of affiliation.
>
>
> I understand this as:
>
> We have to MENTION that the project is under Incubation, this does not
> mean to put "Incubating" in the logo:
>
> * the splash screen already says AOO is incubating in the text "Build
> contributed..."
> * The can be done in the About dialog edit field
> * etc etc
>
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi *,
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 05:31:20PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> for the dev builds I plan to provide (asap) I have simply used
> Drew's proposals, added some of by my own and have built a Mac
> version.
>
> I have some minor problems with the OOo-Dev dmg installer background
> images where I am working on. But ou can get a first impression how
> would look like under
>
> Backing window + About box
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/backing_window-about.png
>
> Intro image
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/intro.png
>
> MacOS dmg background
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png
> well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try
> to improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
>
> Juergen
they look nice. I wonder if "Incubating" is required there. This is an
Apache jargon, I doubt it would have any sense for English speaking
users; and more problematic for non-English speaking user: the text is
not localized. IMO "Incubating" only adds more confusion to the already
existing confusion in our user base. If this is not an Apache
requirement, it would be nice to remove it from the logos.
Reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
it is not very clear to me:
Naming
After a podling has been approved, the lists are created, and the
initial code drop has commenced, the podling MUST be referred to as
Apache "Podling-Name" AND mention that the project is under Incubation.
Suitable mentions include:
Inclusion of the http://incubator.apache.org/"podling-name" URL
Apache "Podling-Name" is currently undergoing Incubation at the Apache
Software Foundation.
Other references may only be used upon prior approval by the Incubator
PMC. These statements only need to be disclosed upon the first reference
in a document.
Incubator Logo
Podlings websites SHOULD contain the Apache Incubator Project logo as
sign of affiliation.
I understand this as:
We have to MENTION that the project is under Incubation, this does not
mean to put "Incubating" in the logo:
* the splash screen already says AOO is incubating in the text "Build
contributed..."
* The can be done in the About dialog edit field
* etc etc
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: Real life preview of some of the proposed images
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
2012/1/12 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>
> Hi,
>
> for the dev builds I plan to provide (asap) I have simply used Drew's
> proposals, added some of by my own and have built a Mac version.
>
> I have some minor problems with the OOo-Dev dmg installer background
> images where I am working on. But ou can get a first impression how would
> look like under
>
> Backing window + About box
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**screenshots/backing_window-**about.png<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/screenshots/backing_window-about.png>
>
> Intro image
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**screenshots/intro.png<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/screenshots/intro.png>
>
> MacOS dmg background
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**screenshots/mac_install_dmg.**png<http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/screenshots/mac_install_dmg.png>
> well the quality of this image is too bad right now and I will try to
> improve it. But I know Drew will give me support ;-)
>
> Juergen
>
Good going! :)
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