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[jira] Created: (PLUTO-588) Cannot aquire Pluto container libraries
Cannot aquire Pluto container libraries
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Key: PLUTO-588
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PLUTO-588
Project: Pluto
Issue Type: Bug
Components: documentation, general, portlet container
Affects Versions: 2.0.0
Environment: Irrelevant, since this is filed against the Pluto Site, not Pluto itself
Reporter: Robert Brown III
On the Getting Started page of the Pluto site (http://portals.apache.org/pluto/v20/getting-started.html) there are a number of distributions mentioned, including the pluto-current-bundle (Pluto bundled with Tomcat) , pluto-current-bin (the Pluto libraries and portal), pluto-current-container-bin (the Pluto Container libraries), and pluto-current-src (the source code).
Unfortunately, when attempting to download, it seems that only the bundle and the source are available. The pluto-current-bin and (most importantly for me) pluto-current-container-bin are apparently not on any mirrors.
It would be appreciated if someone would make these distributions available, or please correct/expand what is on the Getting Started page..
Please note: this is put here as a bug because I could find nowhere else to report this problem. I am unaware of any other avenues of contact concerning matters other than this bug- reporting system. I am uncertain if this is the right place to report this problem, but I cannot find a more appropriate place.
If such a place exists, then please point me to it so that I can eliminate this bug report.
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[jira] Updated: (PLUTO-588) Getting Started website page for Pluto
2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided distributions
Posted by "Ate Douma (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Ate Douma updated PLUTO-588:
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Summary: Getting Started website page for Pluto 2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided distributions (was: Cannot aquire Pluto container libraries)
> Getting Started website page for Pluto 2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided distributions
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PLUTO-588
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PLUTO-588
> Project: Pluto
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: documentation, general, portlet container
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Environment: Irrelevant, since this is filed against the Pluto Site, not Pluto itself
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
>
> On the Getting Started page of the Pluto site (http://portals.apache.org/pluto/v20/getting-started.html) there are a number of distributions mentioned, including the pluto-current-bundle (Pluto bundled with Tomcat) , pluto-current-bin (the Pluto libraries and portal), pluto-current-container-bin (the Pluto Container libraries), and pluto-current-src (the source code).
> Unfortunately, when attempting to download, it seems that only the bundle and the source are available. The pluto-current-bin and (most importantly for me) pluto-current-container-bin are apparently not on any mirrors.
> It would be appreciated if someone would make these distributions available, or please correct/expand what is on the Getting Started page..
> Please note: this is put here as a bug because I could find nowhere else to report this problem. I am unaware of any other avenues of contact concerning matters other than this bug- reporting system. I am uncertain if this is the right place to report this problem, but I cannot find a more appropriate place.
> If such a place exists, then please point me to it so that I can eliminate this bug report.
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[jira] Commented: (PLUTO-588) Cannot aquire Pluto container
libraries
Posted by "Ate Douma (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Ate Douma commented on PLUTO-588:
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Hi Robert,
First of all, you are correct that with the new Pluto 2.x release only the full bundle (Pluto Portal+Tomcat) is provided.
The release procedure and configuration has been cleaned up a lot, and in that process building those other distributions somehow "got lost".
I'm not totally sure why, but I think and assume it is because foremost pluto is intended to be integrated in other portal solutions which is primarily done by through maven-2 artifact dependency configurations.
All pluto artifacts are also available from Maven 2 Central repository too.
The current getting started page better be updated sometime soon to indicate this of course.
BTW: if you need only yhe pluto container artifacts, these are of course also embedded of the bundle distribution and can easily be extracted from it.
With regard to reporting such "issues" like these, the usual and better place to do that would be on the pluto user mailing list, see: http://portals.apache.org/pluto/mail-lists.html
The fact that the getting started site is no longer correct imo is a valid issue to report through JIRA though, although it probably could use a better subject.
As such, I'll update this issue to better reflect describe this, and it should remain open until the getting started page is update/fixed.
> Cannot aquire Pluto container libraries
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Key: PLUTO-588
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PLUTO-588
> Project: Pluto
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: documentation, general, portlet container
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Environment: Irrelevant, since this is filed against the Pluto Site, not Pluto itself
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
>
> On the Getting Started page of the Pluto site (http://portals.apache.org/pluto/v20/getting-started.html) there are a number of distributions mentioned, including the pluto-current-bundle (Pluto bundled with Tomcat) , pluto-current-bin (the Pluto libraries and portal), pluto-current-container-bin (the Pluto Container libraries), and pluto-current-src (the source code).
> Unfortunately, when attempting to download, it seems that only the bundle and the source are available. The pluto-current-bin and (most importantly for me) pluto-current-container-bin are apparently not on any mirrors.
> It would be appreciated if someone would make these distributions available, or please correct/expand what is on the Getting Started page..
> Please note: this is put here as a bug because I could find nowhere else to report this problem. I am unaware of any other avenues of contact concerning matters other than this bug- reporting system. I am uncertain if this is the right place to report this problem, but I cannot find a more appropriate place.
> If such a place exists, then please point me to it so that I can eliminate this bug report.
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[jira] Commented: (PLUTO-588) Getting Started website page for
Pluto 2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided
distributions
Posted by "Ate Douma (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Ate Douma commented on PLUTO-588:
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Hi Robert,
I know Maven isn't everybody's cup of thee :) and surely it shouldn't be difficult to add the separate distribution of the container jars too.
Either we can reintroduce such a container artifacts only distribution again or indeed point out which jars are needed from the main bundle to get started with only the pluto container.
For your information, using the current 2.0.0 bundle distribution, you'll need to extract (only) the following:
/pluto-2.0.0/lib/ (goes into shared class loader to support cross-context webapp access):
portlet-api_2.0_spec-1.0.jar
pluto-container-api-2.0.0.jar
pluto-taglib-2.0.0.jar
ccpp-1.0.jar
/pluto-2.0.0/PlutoDomain/pluto-portal-2.0.0.war (goes into portal webapp WEB-INF/lib):
WEB-INF/lib/
pluto-container-2.0.0.jar
stax-api-1.0-2.jar
stax-1.2.0.jar
jaxb-api-2.1.jar
jaxb-impl-2.1.9.jar
slf4j-api-1.5.6.jar
slf4j-jdk14-1.5.6.jar (can replace with your own sfl4j logger implementation if desired, like slf4j-log4j12-1.5.6.jar)
> Getting Started website page for Pluto 2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided distributions
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PLUTO-588
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PLUTO-588
> Project: Pluto
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: documentation, general, portlet container
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Environment: Irrelevant, since this is filed against the Pluto Site, not Pluto itself
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
>
> On the Getting Started page of the Pluto site (http://portals.apache.org/pluto/v20/getting-started.html) there are a number of distributions mentioned, including the pluto-current-bundle (Pluto bundled with Tomcat) , pluto-current-bin (the Pluto libraries and portal), pluto-current-container-bin (the Pluto Container libraries), and pluto-current-src (the source code).
> Unfortunately, when attempting to download, it seems that only the bundle and the source are available. The pluto-current-bin and (most importantly for me) pluto-current-container-bin are apparently not on any mirrors.
> It would be appreciated if someone would make these distributions available, or please correct/expand what is on the Getting Started page..
> Please note: this is put here as a bug because I could find nowhere else to report this problem. I am unaware of any other avenues of contact concerning matters other than this bug- reporting system. I am uncertain if this is the right place to report this problem, but I cannot find a more appropriate place.
> If such a place exists, then please point me to it so that I can eliminate this bug report.
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[jira] Commented: (PLUTO-588) Getting Started website page for
Pluto 2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided
distributions
Posted by "Robert Brown III (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PLUTO-588?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12804572#action_12804572 ]
Robert Brown III commented on PLUTO-588:
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Greetings:
Thanks for the response and direction.
I would like to gently suggest that providing only Maven dependency configurations as a means of accessing the Pluto container artifacts is not necessarily a good idea. For one thing: suppose someone is creating something new (like a new Portal system) that does not require the dependencies used by Apache software, of if someone is putting together a very small project that Maven would be "overkill" for? Or perhaps someone wanting to use Pluto is working at a shop that forbids the use of Maven (certain groups in the Department of Defense do this). Or maybe the downloader is one of those "mutants" who simply does not like Maven and refuses to use it.
I do not believe it would be difficult to provide the necessary jars for the container as a separate distribution, just as you did with previous releases.
Alternatively, while updating the getting started page, you might want to give instructions for extracting the appropriate jars from the bundle. Probably the best approach to do this would be to point to which jars to extract for the container and the driver...
> Getting Started website page for Pluto 2.x needs to be updated concerning available and provided distributions
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: PLUTO-588
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PLUTO-588
> Project: Pluto
> Issue Type: Bug
> Components: documentation, general, portlet container
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Environment: Irrelevant, since this is filed against the Pluto Site, not Pluto itself
> Reporter: Robert Brown III
>
> On the Getting Started page of the Pluto site (http://portals.apache.org/pluto/v20/getting-started.html) there are a number of distributions mentioned, including the pluto-current-bundle (Pluto bundled with Tomcat) , pluto-current-bin (the Pluto libraries and portal), pluto-current-container-bin (the Pluto Container libraries), and pluto-current-src (the source code).
> Unfortunately, when attempting to download, it seems that only the bundle and the source are available. The pluto-current-bin and (most importantly for me) pluto-current-container-bin are apparently not on any mirrors.
> It would be appreciated if someone would make these distributions available, or please correct/expand what is on the Getting Started page..
> Please note: this is put here as a bug because I could find nowhere else to report this problem. I am unaware of any other avenues of contact concerning matters other than this bug- reporting system. I am uncertain if this is the right place to report this problem, but I cannot find a more appropriate place.
> If such a place exists, then please point me to it so that I can eliminate this bug report.
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