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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2016/11/03 15:54:14 UTC

Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Hi,

The Adobe AIR SDK 24 is available in beta form at [1] and is incompatible
with our installers (both for regular Flex as well as FlexJS).  So, our
users currently will not be able to use the Installer or Ant to set up
with Adobe AIR 24 or later.  I have created JIRA issues FLEX-35166 and
FLEX-35167 to track.

Apparently, the Adobe AIR SDK contains executables like ADL and ADT and
security software is starting to flag and prevent delivery of executables
via compressed archives, so Adobe decided to switch from ZIP and TBZ2
files to EXE and DMG files.  I can't imagine Adobe changes its mind on
this, so I think our installers simply have to respond.  This also means
that, without some serious hacking in our Installer, that folks will never
be able to install current or older Flex and FlexJS SDKs with Adobe AIR 24
or later.

We need to decide how urgent this issue is, but I'm assuming for now that
folks want to see the next Flex SDK release work with Adobe AIR 24 and
later.

-Alex



Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
And I still see the adl.exe inside the zip file: https://snag.gy/uSrbL5.jpg

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:10 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I still see the zip file available here
>
> https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
> air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
>
> On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
>> <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take and
>> >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
>> >
>> >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
>>
>> Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to launch
>> the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how rough
>> a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Fine with me as long as that properly allows the executables to run later.  I'm not on the latest Mac OS, so I won't be able to test it.

-Alex

From: "omuppi1@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>" <om...@gmail.com>> on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 2:11 PM
To: Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>>
Cc: "dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>" <de...@flex.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Even in the case of the .dmg, I think we should just unzip it and extract the AIR SDK.  I don't think we want to launch it.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>> wrote:
OK, my sources say that ZIP format will be around for a while.  But don't
we have to switch to using DMG for Mac?  I don't know if the ZIP has Mac
versions of ADL and ADT in it.  And if we do just end up launching the
DMG, we might want to create a path for launching an EXE in case there is
an issue some day.

Thoughts?
-Alex

On 11/3/16, 11:53 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>> wrote:

>I thought there were symlinks for Mac.  Maybe it doesn't matter for what
>we use it for.
>
>Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>------ Original message------
>From: OmPrakash Muppirala
>Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 11:31 AM
>To: dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>;
>Subject:Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)
>
>Interestingly, I was able to simply unzip the .dmg file and inspect its
>contents.  It simply has a folder called AIR SDK:
>https://snag.gy/i8gNmu.jpg
>
>Also of interest is the fact that I have been using only the .zip files in
>the NPM FlexJS installer.  That seems to work fine with Macs as well.
>
>I think any tweaks we may have to do should be relatively minor.
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com>>
>wrote:
>
>> I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I
>>see
>> is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer
>>downloads.
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>><bi...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
>> > section)
>> > Was there any announcement about this change?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
>> > > downloads/air.html
>> > >
>> > > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> > >
>> > > ------ Original message------
>> > > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
>> > > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
>> > > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org<ma...@flex.apache.org>;
>> > > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK
>> release)
>> > >
>> > > I still see the zip file available here
>> > >
>> > > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
>> > > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> on behalf of OmPrakash
>> > > Muppirala"
>> > > > <om...@gmail.com> on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would
>>take
>> > and
>> > > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to
>> launch
>> > > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see
>>how
>> > > rough
>> > > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Alex
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>



Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Unfortunately you can’t just „unzip“ dmgs ... DMG is an archive format from hell ;-)

As Adobe didn’t provide the Flashplayer Debugger in any other format than DMG for Mac I wated to use an exsiting DMG decompression libary. Unfortunately they are ALL GPL licenced and hereby disqualified for us.
So I started reading through the specs of the DMG format and started implementing a DMG extractor form scratch. I got quite far. See the „feature/flash-downloader“ branch of the flex-sdk-converter in the flex-utils repo. Unfortunately I would now have to implement decoding the B-Tree of a Mac file-system. I had to stop working on that quite some time ago and sort of never picked up the ball again. But that wouldn’t help in the Flex installer as the best we could get would be a jar that can’t be run in the Installer. 

Another thing is that the archives for Windows don’t contain the stuff needed for Mac (I had to investigate this when working on the AIR converter)

Chris


Am 03.11.16, 22:11 schrieb "omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von OmPrakash Muppirala" <omuppi1@gmail.com im Auftrag von bigosmallm@gmail.com>:

    Even in the case of the .dmg, I think we should just unzip it and extract
    the AIR SDK.  I don't think we want to launch it.
    
    On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
    
    > OK, my sources say that ZIP format will be around for a while.  But don't
    > we have to switch to using DMG for Mac?  I don't know if the ZIP has Mac
    > versions of ADL and ADT in it.  And if we do just end up launching the
    > DMG, we might want to create a path for launching an EXE in case there is
    > an issue some day.
    >
    > Thoughts?
    > -Alex
    >
    > On 11/3/16, 11:53 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
    >
    > >I thought there were symlinks for Mac.  Maybe it doesn't matter for what
    > >we use it for.
    > >
    > >Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
    > >
    > >------ Original message------
    > >From: OmPrakash Muppirala
    > >Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 11:31 AM
    > >To: dev@flex.apache.org;
    > >Subject:Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)
    > >
    > >Interestingly, I was able to simply unzip the .dmg file and inspect its
    > >contents.  It simply has a folder called AIR SDK:
    > >https://snag.gy/i8gNmu.jpg
    > >
    > >Also of interest is the fact that I have been using only the .zip files in
    > >the NPM FlexJS installer.  That seems to work fine with Macs as well.
    > >
    > >I think any tweaks we may have to do should be relatively minor.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com>
    > >wrote:
    > >
    > >> I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I
    > >>see
    > >> is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer
    > >>downloads.
    > >>
    > >> - Josh
    > >>
    > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
    > >><bigosmallm@gmail.com
    > >> >
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
    > >> > section)
    > >> > Was there any announcement about this change?
    > >> >
    > >> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> > > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
    > >> > > downloads/air.html
    > >> > >
    > >> > > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
    > >> > >
    > >> > > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
    > >> > >
    > >> > > ------ Original message------
    > >> > > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
    > >> > > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
    > >> > > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
    > >> > > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK
    > >> release)
    > >> > >
    > >> > > I still see the zip file available here
    > >> > >
    > >> > > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
    > >> > > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
    > >> > >
    > >> > > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
    > >> > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
    > >> > > Muppirala"
    > >> > > > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would
    > >>take
    > >> > and
    > >> > > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
    > >> > > > >
    > >> > > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to
    > >> launch
    > >> > > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see
    > >>how
    > >> > > rough
    > >> > > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > > -Alex
    > >> > > >
    > >> > > >
    > >> > >
    > >> >
    > >>
    >
    >
    


Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Even in the case of the .dmg, I think we should just unzip it and extract
the AIR SDK.  I don't think we want to launch it.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> OK, my sources say that ZIP format will be around for a while.  But don't
> we have to switch to using DMG for Mac?  I don't know if the ZIP has Mac
> versions of ADL and ADT in it.  And if we do just end up launching the
> DMG, we might want to create a path for launching an EXE in case there is
> an issue some day.
>
> Thoughts?
> -Alex
>
> On 11/3/16, 11:53 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> >I thought there were symlinks for Mac.  Maybe it doesn't matter for what
> >we use it for.
> >
> >Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> >
> >------ Original message------
> >From: OmPrakash Muppirala
> >Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 11:31 AM
> >To: dev@flex.apache.org;
> >Subject:Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)
> >
> >Interestingly, I was able to simply unzip the .dmg file and inspect its
> >contents.  It simply has a folder called AIR SDK:
> >https://snag.gy/i8gNmu.jpg
> >
> >Also of interest is the fact that I have been using only the .zip files in
> >the NPM FlexJS installer.  That seems to work fine with Macs as well.
> >
> >I think any tweaks we may have to do should be relatively minor.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I
> >>see
> >> is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer
> >>downloads.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
> >><bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
> >> > section)
> >> > Was there any announcement about this change?
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
> >> > > downloads/air.html
> >> > >
> >> > > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> >> > >
> >> > > ------ Original message------
> >> > > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
> >> > > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
> >> > > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
> >> > > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK
> >> release)
> >> > >
> >> > > I still see the zip file available here
> >> > >
> >> > > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
> >> > > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
> >> > >
> >> > > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> >> > > Muppirala"
> >> > > > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would
> >>take
> >> > and
> >> > > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to
> >> launch
> >> > > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see
> >>how
> >> > > rough
> >> > > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Alex
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
OK, my sources say that ZIP format will be around for a while.  But don't
we have to switch to using DMG for Mac?  I don't know if the ZIP has Mac
versions of ADL and ADT in it.  And if we do just end up launching the
DMG, we might want to create a path for launching an EXE in case there is
an issue some day.

Thoughts?
-Alex

On 11/3/16, 11:53 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>I thought there were symlinks for Mac.  Maybe it doesn't matter for what
>we use it for.
>
>Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>------ Original message------
>From: OmPrakash Muppirala
>Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 11:31 AM
>To: dev@flex.apache.org;
>Subject:Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)
>
>Interestingly, I was able to simply unzip the .dmg file and inspect its
>contents.  It simply has a folder called AIR SDK:
>https://snag.gy/i8gNmu.jpg
>
>Also of interest is the fact that I have been using only the .zip files in
>the NPM FlexJS installer.  That seems to work fine with Macs as well.
>
>I think any tweaks we may have to do should be relatively minor.
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I
>>see
>> is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer
>>downloads.
>>
>> - Josh
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>><bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
>> > section)
>> > Was there any announcement about this change?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
>> > > downloads/air.html
>> > >
>> > > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>> > >
>> > > ------ Original message------
>> > > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
>> > > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
>> > > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
>> > > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK
>> release)
>> > >
>> > > I still see the zip file available here
>> > >
>> > > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
>> > > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
>> > > Muppirala"
>> > > > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would
>>take
>> > and
>> > > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to
>> launch
>> > > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see
>>how
>> > > rough
>> > > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Alex
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>


Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
I thought there were symlinks for Mac.  Maybe it doesn't matter for what we use it for.

Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

------ Original message------
From: OmPrakash Muppirala
Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 11:31 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org;
Subject:Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Interestingly, I was able to simply unzip the .dmg file and inspect its
contents.  It simply has a folder called AIR SDK: https://snag.gy/i8gNmu.jpg

Also of interest is the fact that I have been using only the .zip files in
the NPM FlexJS installer.  That seems to work fine with Macs as well.

I think any tweaks we may have to do should be relatively minor.



On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I see
> is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer downloads.
>
> - Josh
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
> > section)
> > Was there any announcement about this change?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
> > > downloads/air.html
> > >
> > > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
> > >
> > > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > >
> > > ------ Original message------
> > > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
> > > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
> > > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK
> release)
> > >
> > > I still see the zip file available here
> > >
> > > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
> > > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
> > >
> > > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> > > Muppirala"
> > > > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take
> > and
> > > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> > > > >
> > > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
> > > >
> > > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to
> launch
> > > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how
> > > rough
> > > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
> > > >
> > > > -Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Interestingly, I was able to simply unzip the .dmg file and inspect its
contents.  It simply has a folder called AIR SDK: https://snag.gy/i8gNmu.jpg

Also of interest is the fact that I have been using only the .zip files in
the NPM FlexJS installer.  That seems to work fine with Macs as well.

I think any tweaks we may have to do should be relatively minor.



On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I see
> is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer downloads.
>
> - Josh
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
> > section)
> > Was there any announcement about this change?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
> > > downloads/air.html
> > >
> > > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
> > >
> > > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > >
> > > ------ Original message------
> > > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
> > > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
> > > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK
> release)
> > >
> > > I still see the zip file available here
> > >
> > > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
> > > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
> > >
> > > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> > > Muppirala"
> > > > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take
> > and
> > > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> > > > >
> > > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
> > > >
> > > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to
> launch
> > > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how
> > > rough
> > > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
> > > >
> > > > -Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Josh Tynjala <jo...@gmail.com>.
I also see a ZIP for the Windows SDKs on that page. The only EXE that I see
is for the Windows AIR runtime, which isn't what the installer downloads.

- Josh

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
> section)
> Was there any announcement about this change?
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
> > downloads/air.html
> >
> > I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
> >
> > Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> >
> > ------ Original message------
> > *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
> > *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
> > *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
> > *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)
> >
> > I still see the zip file available here
> >
> > https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
> > air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
> >
> > On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> > Muppirala"
> > > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take
> and
> > > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> > > >
> > > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
> > >
> > > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to launch
> > > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how
> > rough
> > > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hmm, I see a dmg for mac and a zip for windows (in the Flex Developers
section)
Was there any announcement about this change?

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/
> downloads/air.html
>
> I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.
>
> Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *OmPrakash Muppirala
> *Date: *Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
> *To: *dev@flex.apache.org;
> *Subject:*Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)
>
> I still see the zip file available here
>
> https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/
> air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip
>
> On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash
> Muppirala"
> > <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take and
> > >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> > >
> > >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
> >
> > Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to launch
> > the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how
> rough
> > a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> >
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
I see links for dmg and exe from here http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/air.html

I believe the zip and tar will go away or may not be the latest.

Sent from my LG G3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

------ Original message------
From: OmPrakash Muppirala
Date: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 10:10 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org;
Subject:Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

I still see the zip file available here

https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip

On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
> <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take and
> >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> >
> >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
>
> Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to launch
> the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how rough
> a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
>
> -Alex
>
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
I still see the zip file available here

https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashruntimes/air/AdobeAIRSDK.zip

On Nov 3, 2016 9:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
> <omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take and
> >amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
> >
> >Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?
>
> Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to launch
> the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how rough
> a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.
>
> -Alex
>
>

Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 11/3/16, 9:35 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala"
<omuppi1@gmail.com on behalf of bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:

>I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take and
>amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.
>
>Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?

Don't know for sure.  My guess would be to adjust the scripts to launch
the EXE or DMG instead of unpacking ZIP and TBZ.  Then we'll see how rough
a user experience that is.  Maybe that will be acceptable.

-Alex


Re: Installer.xml changes needed (was Re: New Flex SDK release)

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
I can take this work up.  Depending on how much work this would take and
amy available bandwidth, this could take a while.

Do you know what exactly needs to be done here?

Thanks,
Om

On Nov 3, 2016 8:54 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Adobe AIR SDK 24 is available in beta form at [1] and is incompatible
> with our installers (both for regular Flex as well as FlexJS).  So, our
> users currently will not be able to use the Installer or Ant to set up
> with Adobe AIR 24 or later.  I have created JIRA issues FLEX-35166 and
> FLEX-35167 to track.
>
> Apparently, the Adobe AIR SDK contains executables like ADL and ADT and
> security software is starting to flag and prevent delivery of executables
> via compressed archives, so Adobe decided to switch from ZIP and TBZ2
> files to EXE and DMG files.  I can't imagine Adobe changes its mind on
> this, so I think our installers simply have to respond.  This also means
> that, without some serious hacking in our Installer, that folks will never
> be able to install current or older Flex and FlexJS SDKs with Adobe AIR 24
> or later.
>
> We need to decide how urgent this issue is, but I'm assuming for now that
> folks want to see the next Flex SDK release work with Adobe AIR 24 and
> later.
>
> -Alex
>
>
>