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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com> on 2020/10/02 16:24:34 UTC
Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
We are using this setup:
- Main server is running on Windows Server 16 Standard using VisualSVN
version 3.7.0, which apparently uses svn 1.9.7
- The server is using svnsync nightly to synchronize over the Internet
to a mirror SVN server version 1.9.7 running on Ubuntu 18.04 Server on
a different location entirely.
No user operations are allowed on the mirror, it is just a backup.
My problem is this:
The VisualSVN server is seriously out of date and needs to be
upgraded. In its own management console it suggests upgrading to 4.2.2
but does not say which version of svn will then be running.
In fact it seems like they are intentionally hiding the svn version in
their web pages.. :(
And I suspect that there might be problems concerning the svnsync
commands if the backup mirror server is not upgraded to the same svn
version, right?
But how do I do that on Ubuntu when I cannot find out which svn
version they use?
Or does it not matter, i.e. can the main and mirror servers be using
different svn versions?
--
Bo Berglund
Developer in Sweden
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Pavel Lyalyakin <pa...@visualsvn.com>.
Hello,
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 7:24 PM Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are using this setup:
> - Main server is running on Windows Server 16 Standard using VisualSVN
> version 3.7.0, which apparently uses svn 1.9.7
>
Usually you just need to download and run the VisualSVN Server installer to
upgrade the server. Please, read the article KB161: Upgrading to VisualSVN
Server 4.2 <https://www.visualsvn.com/support/topic/00161/> before
beginning the upgrade. The article includes pre- and post- upgrade
checklists to ensure smooth upgrade.
> - The server is using svnsync nightly to synchronize over the Internet
> to a mirror SVN server version 1.9.7 running on Ubuntu 18.04 Server on
> a different location entirely.
> No user operations are allowed on the mirror, it is just a backup.
>
> My problem is this:
> The VisualSVN server is seriously out of date and needs to be
> upgraded. In its own management console it suggests upgrading to 4.2.2
> but does not say which version of svn will then be running.
> In fact it seems like they are intentionally hiding the svn version in
> their web pages.. :(
>
> And I suspect that there might be problems concerning the svnsync
> commands if the backup mirror server is not upgraded to the same svn
> version, right?
>
>
But how do I do that on Ubuntu when I cannot find out which svn
> version they use?
>
> Or does it not matter, i.e. can the main and mirror servers be using
> different svn versions?
>
> --
> Bo Berglund
> Developer in Sweden
>
--
With best regards,
Pavel Lyalyakin
VisualSVN Team
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Pavel Lyalyakin <pa...@visualsvn.com>.
Hello Bo,
I have to note that VisualSVN Server 4.3.0 is now available and it is
linked with Subversion 1.14.0. Please, see the Release Notes
<https://www.visualsvn.com/server/changes/4.3/>. You can find the upgrade
checklists in the article KB167: Upgrading to VisualSVN Server 4.3
<https://www.visualsvn.com/support/topic/00167/>.
You can get VisualSVN Server 4.3.0 from the download
<https://www.visualsvn.com/server/download/> page.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 3:29 AM Pavel Lyalyakin <
pavel.lyalyakin@visualsvn.com> wrote:
> Hello Bo,
>
> Yes, your current VisualSVN Server version is linked with Subversion
> 1.9.7, and the most recent VisualSVN Server 4.2.2 is linked with Subversion
> 1.10.6.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:42 PM Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:59:53 +0300, Pavel Lyalyakin
>> <pa...@visualsvn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Opening cmd.exe and simply running `svn --version` is an incorrect way to
>> >find out the version of Subversion the server is built with. This will
>> only
>> >show the version of the svn.exe client and depending on your %PATH%
>> >variable and current directory can show you the version of some other
>> >Subversion client (e.g., TortoiseSVN). Run the
>> *"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe
>> >--version"* command instead - it will show you the version of svn.exe
>> which
>> >comes with VisualSVN Server.
>>
>> Here is what I got:
>>
>> H:\>"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe" --version
>> svn, version 1.9.7 (r1800392)
>> compiled Nov 21 2017, 12:52:53 on x86_64-microsoft-windows6.1.7601
>>
>> and:
>>
>> H:\>where svn
>> C:\Program Files\VisualSVN Server\bin\svn.exe
>>
>> So it is really the server version I have checked.
>> BTW, no client tools will ever be installed on a Windows Server in our
>> company, like Tortoise etc.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bo Berglund
>> Developer in Sweden
>>
>>
>
> --
> With best regards,
> Pavel Lyalyakin
> VisualSVN Team
>
--
With best regards,
Pavel Lyalyakin
VisualSVN Team
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Pavel Lyalyakin <pa...@visualsvn.com>.
Hello Bo,
Yes, your current VisualSVN Server version is linked with Subversion 1.9.7,
and the most recent VisualSVN Server 4.2.2 is linked with Subversion 1.10.6.
Thank you.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 5:42 PM Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:59:53 +0300, Pavel Lyalyakin
> <pa...@visualsvn.com> wrote:
>
> >Opening cmd.exe and simply running `svn --version` is an incorrect way to
> >find out the version of Subversion the server is built with. This will
> only
> >show the version of the svn.exe client and depending on your %PATH%
> >variable and current directory can show you the version of some other
> >Subversion client (e.g., TortoiseSVN). Run the
> *"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe
> >--version"* command instead - it will show you the version of svn.exe
> which
> >comes with VisualSVN Server.
>
> Here is what I got:
>
> H:\>"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe" --version
> svn, version 1.9.7 (r1800392)
> compiled Nov 21 2017, 12:52:53 on x86_64-microsoft-windows6.1.7601
>
> and:
>
> H:\>where svn
> C:\Program Files\VisualSVN Server\bin\svn.exe
>
> So it is really the server version I have checked.
> BTW, no client tools will ever be installed on a Windows Server in our
> company, like Tortoise etc.
>
>
> --
> Bo Berglund
> Developer in Sweden
>
>
--
With best regards,
Pavel Lyalyakin
VisualSVN Team
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:59:53 +0300, Pavel Lyalyakin
<pa...@visualsvn.com> wrote:
>Opening cmd.exe and simply running `svn --version` is an incorrect way to
>find out the version of Subversion the server is built with. This will only
>show the version of the svn.exe client and depending on your %PATH%
>variable and current directory can show you the version of some other
>Subversion client (e.g., TortoiseSVN). Run the *"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe
>--version"* command instead - it will show you the version of svn.exe which
>comes with VisualSVN Server.
Here is what I got:
H:\>"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe" --version
svn, version 1.9.7 (r1800392)
compiled Nov 21 2017, 12:52:53 on x86_64-microsoft-windows6.1.7601
and:
H:\>where svn
C:\Program Files\VisualSVN Server\bin\svn.exe
So it is really the server version I have checked.
BTW, no client tools will ever be installed on a Windows Server in our
company, like Tortoise etc.
--
Bo Berglund
Developer in Sweden
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Pavel Lyalyakin <pa...@visualsvn.com>.
Hello,
See the download <https://www.visualsvn.com/server/download/> page which
says that VisualSVN Server 4.2.2
[[[
Includes Apache Subversion 1.10.6.
]]]
If you want to find out the version details of your currently installed
server, use the VisualSVN Server Manager console or check the README.txt
file. See https://stackoverflow.com/a/60887240/761095
Opening cmd.exe and simply running `svn --version` is an incorrect way to
find out the version of Subversion the server is built with. This will only
show the version of the svn.exe client and depending on your %PATH%
variable and current directory can show you the version of some other
Subversion client (e.g., TortoiseSVN). Run the *"%VISUALSVN_SERVER%bin\svn.exe
--version"* command instead - it will show you the version of svn.exe which
comes with VisualSVN Server.
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:56 PM Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:42:03 +0200, Daniel Sahlberg
> <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Den fre 2 okt. 2020 kl 18:24 skrev Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> We are using this setup:
> >> - Main server is running on Windows Server 16 Standard using VisualSVN
> >> version 3.7.0, which apparently uses svn 1.9.7
> >>
> >> - The server is using svnsync nightly to synchronize over the Internet
> >> to a mirror SVN server version 1.9.7 running on Ubuntu 18.04 Server on
> >> a different location entirely.
> >> No user operations are allowed on the mirror, it is just a backup.
> >>
> >> My problem is this:
> >> The VisualSVN server is seriously out of date and needs to be
> >> upgraded. In its own management console it suggests upgrading to 4.2.2
> >> but does not say which version of svn will then be running.
> >> In fact it seems like they are intentionally hiding the svn version in
> >> their web pages.. :(
> >>
> >
> >I checked our installation of 4.2.2 and it seems to be running 1.10.6.
> >VisualSVN Server is installing the Subversion command line tools in
> >C:\Program Files\VisualSVN Server\bin so I simply opened cmd.exe and
> >executed svn --version.
> >
> >And I suspect that there might be problems concerning the svnsync
> >> commands if the backup mirror server is not upgraded to the same svn
> >> version, right?
> >>
> >
> >I checked quickly with a brand new Ubuntu 18.4 VM running svn 1.9.7 and
> >svnsync works both if initiated from the Ubuntu box (connecting to
> >VisualSVN Server using https) and if initiated from Windows (using svn+ssh
> >and plink with public keys). Of course, YMMW.
> >
> >
> >> But how do I do that on Ubuntu when I cannot find out which svn
> >> version they use?
> >
> >
> >> Or does it not matter, i.e. can the main and mirror servers be using
> >> different svn versions?
> >>
> >
> >In general use you are free to mix different versions of the server and
> the
> >client so I would assume this also goes for svnsync. And it's not too far
> >between 1.9 and 1.10. Others on the list might be able to give a more
> >detailed answer but why not test it :-)
>
> Thanks! I retrieved the svn version using the same way as you (svn
> --version on command line)...
>
> I will make a test as soon as I have fixed a broken OpenVPN channel to
> the office. It has stopped working even though I can ping the box.
> Unfortunately it sits across the ocean in Texas so it is not so easy.
> And I don't want to risk the upgrade unless I have an extra working
> OpenVPN server on the system.
>
>
> --
> Bo Berglund
> Developer in Sweden
>
>
--
With best regards,
Pavel Lyalyakin
VisualSVN Team
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:42:03 +0200, Daniel Sahlberg
<da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Den fre 2 okt. 2020 kl 18:24 skrev Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com>:
>
>> We are using this setup:
>> - Main server is running on Windows Server 16 Standard using VisualSVN
>> version 3.7.0, which apparently uses svn 1.9.7
>>
>> - The server is using svnsync nightly to synchronize over the Internet
>> to a mirror SVN server version 1.9.7 running on Ubuntu 18.04 Server on
>> a different location entirely.
>> No user operations are allowed on the mirror, it is just a backup.
>>
>> My problem is this:
>> The VisualSVN server is seriously out of date and needs to be
>> upgraded. In its own management console it suggests upgrading to 4.2.2
>> but does not say which version of svn will then be running.
>> In fact it seems like they are intentionally hiding the svn version in
>> their web pages.. :(
>>
>
>I checked our installation of 4.2.2 and it seems to be running 1.10.6.
>VisualSVN Server is installing the Subversion command line tools in
>C:\Program Files\VisualSVN Server\bin so I simply opened cmd.exe and
>executed svn --version.
>
>And I suspect that there might be problems concerning the svnsync
>> commands if the backup mirror server is not upgraded to the same svn
>> version, right?
>>
>
>I checked quickly with a brand new Ubuntu 18.4 VM running svn 1.9.7 and
>svnsync works both if initiated from the Ubuntu box (connecting to
>VisualSVN Server using https) and if initiated from Windows (using svn+ssh
>and plink with public keys). Of course, YMMW.
>
>
>> But how do I do that on Ubuntu when I cannot find out which svn
>> version they use?
>
>
>> Or does it not matter, i.e. can the main and mirror servers be using
>> different svn versions?
>>
>
>In general use you are free to mix different versions of the server and the
>client so I would assume this also goes for svnsync. And it's not too far
>between 1.9 and 1.10. Others on the list might be able to give a more
>detailed answer but why not test it :-)
Thanks! I retrieved the svn version using the same way as you (svn
--version on command line)...
I will make a test as soon as I have fixed a broken OpenVPN channel to
the office. It has stopped working even though I can ping the box.
Unfortunately it sits across the ocean in Texas so it is not so easy.
And I don't want to risk the upgrade unless I have an extra working
OpenVPN server on the system.
--
Bo Berglund
Developer in Sweden
Re: Upgrading visual svn server from 3.7.0 using svn 1.9.7 - how?
Posted by Daniel Sahlberg <da...@gmail.com>.
Den fre 2 okt. 2020 kl 18:24 skrev Bo Berglund <bo...@gmail.com>:
> We are using this setup:
> - Main server is running on Windows Server 16 Standard using VisualSVN
> version 3.7.0, which apparently uses svn 1.9.7
>
> - The server is using svnsync nightly to synchronize over the Internet
> to a mirror SVN server version 1.9.7 running on Ubuntu 18.04 Server on
> a different location entirely.
> No user operations are allowed on the mirror, it is just a backup.
>
> My problem is this:
> The VisualSVN server is seriously out of date and needs to be
> upgraded. In its own management console it suggests upgrading to 4.2.2
> but does not say which version of svn will then be running.
> In fact it seems like they are intentionally hiding the svn version in
> their web pages.. :(
>
I checked our installation of 4.2.2 and it seems to be running 1.10.6.
VisualSVN Server is installing the Subversion command line tools in
C:\Program Files\VisualSVN Server\bin so I simply opened cmd.exe and
executed svn --version.
And I suspect that there might be problems concerning the svnsync
> commands if the backup mirror server is not upgraded to the same svn
> version, right?
>
I checked quickly with a brand new Ubuntu 18.4 VM running svn 1.9.7 and
svnsync works both if initiated from the Ubuntu box (connecting to
VisualSVN Server using https) and if initiated from Windows (using svn+ssh
and plink with public keys). Of course, YMMW.
> But how do I do that on Ubuntu when I cannot find out which svn
> version they use?
> Or does it not matter, i.e. can the main and mirror servers be using
> different svn versions?
>
In general use you are free to mix different versions of the server and the
client so I would assume this also goes for svnsync. And it's not too far
between 1.9 and 1.10. Others on the list might be able to give a more
detailed answer but why not test it :-)
--
> Bo Berglund
> Developer in Sweden
>
>
Kind regards
Daniel