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tomcat in production
Hi,
we have web application running in iplanet server.
we want same web application running on Tomcat in production.
Is there any separate tomcat version for Production.
If so, please give me the link to dowanload.
Is it ok if I download any version of tomcat from http://tomcat.apache.org/.
what are basic configuration that I need to do for running tomcat in production.
Thanks & Regards
-Abdul Razack
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Markus Schönhaber <ma...@schoenhaber.de>.
Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
>> From: Markus Schönhaber [mailto:mailing-tomcat-user@schoenhaber.de]
>>
>> AFAICT the main advantage of APR wrt static content is the possibility
>> to use sendfile.
>
> The pure Java NIO connector also supports sendfile.
I have successfully managed to overlook that.
> Still haven't seen any actual performance numbers comparing NIO and APR.
Neither have I.
The speed increase I talked about in my previous mail was observed by
comparing APR to the pure Java Base Connector.
Regards
mks
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Gregor Schneider <rc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Chuck,
On Nov 15, 2007 3:55 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
<Ch...@unisys.com> wrote:
> > From: Markus Schönhaber [mailto:mailing-tomcat-user@schoenhaber.de]
> > Subject: Re: tomcat in production
> >
> > AFAICT the main advantage of APR wrt static content is the possibility
> > to use sendfile.
>
> The pure Java NIO connector also supports sendfile. Still haven't seen any actual performance numbers comparing NIO and APR.
>
>
However, the initial questions was about Tomcat being in production-environment.
Since the NIO-connector is not considered stable yet, some report it
as still quite buggy, that very connector shouldn't really be an
option for a production-environment...
Cheers
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RE: tomcat in production
Posted by "Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>.
> From: Markus Schönhaber [mailto:mailing-tomcat-user@schoenhaber.de]
> Subject: Re: tomcat in production
>
> AFAICT the main advantage of APR wrt static content is the possibility
> to use sendfile.
The pure Java NIO connector also supports sendfile. Still haven't seen any actual performance numbers comparing NIO and APR.
- Chuck
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Markus Schönhaber <ma...@schoenhaber.de>.
Caldarale, Charles R schrieb:
> I suspect the previous posts on this subject are slightly confused.
> AFAIK, APR doesn't know or care about the type of content - it's simply
> a more efficient mechanism for keeping multiple connections open
> simultaneously without tying up a thread for each. It also reduces the
> CPU time used to deliver both static and dynamic content, but I haven't
> seen any numbers yet to compare it with the current pure Java NIO
> connector.
AFAICT the main advantage of APR wrt static content is the possibility
to use sendfile. In my experience usage of sendfile increases throughput
significantly - at least with big files and provided that the speed of
the network connection, disk IO etc. is not a limiting factor.
The one drawback I see wrt sendfile is that the size of the content
transmitted via sendfile won't add to the internal counters, i. e. the
size of the file transferred will show up neither in the access log (if
enabled) nor in the "Bytes sent" information the manager app displays on
the Server Status page. Of course, depending on one's needs this may be
an issue or not.
Regards
mks
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RE: tomcat in production
Posted by "Caldarale, Charles R" <Ch...@unisys.com>.
> From: Lionel Crine [mailto:lcrine@linagora.com]
> Subject: Re: tomcat in production
>
> My tomcat serves static content without APR.
> is there a big performance increase serving static pages with
> APR enabled ?
I suspect the previous posts on this subject are slightly confused.
AFAIK, APR doesn't know or care about the type of content - it's simply
a more efficient mechanism for keeping multiple connections open
simultaneously without tying up a thread for each. It also reduces the
CPU time used to deliver both static and dynamic content, but I haven't
seen any numbers yet to compare it with the current pure Java NIO
connector.
- Chuck
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Lionel Crine <lc...@linagora.com>.
HI,
I'm wondering something.
My tomcat serves static content without APR.
is there a big performance increase serving static pages with APR enabled ?
Thanks in advance.
Lionel
Peter Stavrinides wrote:
> Thanks for this response Gregor, I had assumed this was the case, just
> needed the confirmation.
>
> Peter
>
> Gregor Schneider wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> when you're using Apache HTTP in front to serve static content and
>> Tomcat is
>> serving JSP / Servlets only, using the APR won't give you any advantage
>> (AFAIC).
>>
>> However, some ppl are using Tomcat only (running on port 80 / 443 with
>> f.e.
>> JSVC): Then, according to my brain-cells, the APR will increase
>> performance
>> serving the static content.
>>
>> The APR actually is also used by Apache HTTPD - meaning you'll get the
>> same
>> performance serving static content via Tomcat only using the APR as
>> compared
>> to a Apache HTTP-in-front / Tomcat-combination.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Gregor
>>
>
>
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Peter Stavrinides <p....@albourne.com>.
Thanks for this response Gregor, I had assumed this was the case, just
needed the confirmation.
Peter
Gregor Schneider wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> when you're using Apache HTTP in front to serve static content and Tomcat is
> serving JSP / Servlets only, using the APR won't give you any advantage
> (AFAIC).
>
> However, some ppl are using Tomcat only (running on port 80 / 443 with f.e.
> JSVC): Then, according to my brain-cells, the APR will increase performance
> serving the static content.
>
> The APR actually is also used by Apache HTTPD - meaning you'll get the same
> performance serving static content via Tomcat only using the APR as compared
> to a Apache HTTP-in-front / Tomcat-combination.
>
> Cheers
>
> Gregor
>
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Gregor Schneider <rc...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Peter,
when you're using Apache HTTP in front to serve static content and Tomcat is
serving JSP / Servlets only, using the APR won't give you any advantage
(AFAIC).
However, some ppl are using Tomcat only (running on port 80 / 443 with f.e.
JSVC): Then, according to my brain-cells, the APR will increase performance
serving the static content.
The APR actually is also used by Apache HTTPD - meaning you'll get the same
performance serving static content via Tomcat only using the APR as compared
to a Apache HTTP-in-front / Tomcat-combination.
Cheers
Gregor
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Peter Stavrinides <p....@albourne.com>.
I am just wandering about when to use the APR and when not to,
especially for those of us using Apache as a front end (although in my
case this is done solely to integrate perl and java apps into a common
namespace)
Gregor Schneider wrote:
> Take a look at the Apache Portable Runtime:
>
> It will increase Tomcat's performance regarding static content sigificantly:
>
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/apr.html
>
> Cheers
>
> Gregor
>
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Gregor Schneider <rc...@googlemail.com>.
Take a look at the Apache Portable Runtime:
It will increase Tomcat's performance regarding static content sigificantly:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/apr.html
Cheers
Gregor
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Re: tomcat in production
Posted by Pierre Goupil <go...@gmail.com>.
Abdul,
There is no specific version of Tomcat for production * as long as * you
stick to the last revision of your branch, since it contains all security &
bug fixes for that branch. There are no patches in Tomcat, only further
releases. Moreover, it is advised that you use the Tomcat 6.0 branch, or at
least the 5.5 branch, if you can. For instance, for the 6.0 branch, the last
revision is 6.0.14.
Which branch you will choose (6.0, 5.5, 4.1, etc) depends upon which version
of the servlet and JSP specifications you use.
Regarding the tips to apply, someone had once posted a great blog entry on
this list, which we have long discussed :
http://www.digitalsanctum.com/2007/08/18/20-tips-for-using-tomcat-in-production/
HTH,
Pierre
2007/11/12, abdul razack <sh...@yahoo.com>:
>
> Hi,
>
> we have web application running in iplanet server.
> we want same web application running on Tomcat in production.
>
> Is there any separate tomcat version for Production.
> If so, please give me the link to dowanload.
>
> Is it ok if I download any version of tomcat from
> http://tomcat.apache.org/.
> what are basic configuration that I need to do for running tomcat in
> production.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> -Abdul Razack
>
>
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