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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Mohamed Ali Saidi <sa...@gmail.com> on 2014/04/09 13:44:11 UTC

interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Hello,

I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol ,...
) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any helpful
docs.

Can any one help me to understand interactions or send me some architecture
docs explaining interactions.

Best Regards,

Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>.
"Cloudstack send requests via https but reponse is it on https too?"

That would be my guess, the entire interaction for vCenter should be 
over 443.


On 4/14/14, 1:17 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi wrote:
> thank you for informations.
>
> Exactly i would like to know what protocol vcenter uses to send reponse to
> cloudstack.
> Cloudstack send requests via https but reponse is it on https too?
>
> Regards
>
>
> 2014-04-14 17:28 GMT+01:00 ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Interaction happens on several layers.
>>
>> Using VMware SDK, CloudStack Management Server initially talks to vCenter
>> over 443. However, you will also see some interaction between Storage VM as
>> well as Proxy VM to vCenter and ESXi hosts directly.
>>
>> Are you experiencing any issues or is this for firewall/security review?
>>
>> If you are attempting to troubleshoot the issue, the easiest way is to
>> look at the logs as well as "netstat -antup | grep -i time", look for all
>> unestablished connections to see where the flow goes and what needs to be
>> open. I do have a doc on communication flow, it may take a week or little
>> longer for me to post it online, since it is on one of the hard drives @
>> work, and i'm working remotely this week.
>>
>> If you need any help in the meantime, let me know,
>>
>> Regards
>> ilya
>>
>>
>> On 4/9/14, 7:52 AM, Mohamed Ali Saidi wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your response.
>>> To configure vcenter on cloudstack we don't need  to know interactions
>>> between them , but i need informations for research issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>   On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
>>>> saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hello,
>>>>> I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol
>>>>>
>>>> ,...
>>>>
>>>>> ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any
>>>>> helpful
>>>>> docs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
>>>> we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have to
>>>> puzzle with openings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Erik Weber
>>>>
>>>>


Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by Mohamed Ali Saidi <sa...@gmail.com>.
Thank you all for the help


2014-04-14 20:59 GMT+01:00 Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>:

> I did a trace the other day to open the correct ports from cloudstack to
> vcenter, and I found the mgmt servers and systems vm's talking to vcenter
> over 443 only...
>
> > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 18:17:12 +0100
> > Subject: Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware
> > From: saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> >
> > thank you for informations.
> >
> > Exactly i would like to know what protocol vcenter uses to send reponse
> to
> > cloudstack.
> > Cloudstack send requests via https but reponse is it on https too?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > 2014-04-14 17:28 GMT+01:00 ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Interaction happens on several layers.
> > >
> > > Using VMware SDK, CloudStack Management Server initially talks to
> vCenter
> > > over 443. However, you will also see some interaction between Storage
> VM as
> > > well as Proxy VM to vCenter and ESXi hosts directly.
> > >
> > > Are you experiencing any issues or is this for firewall/security
> review?
> > >
> > > If you are attempting to troubleshoot the issue, the easiest way is to
> > > look at the logs as well as "netstat -antup | grep -i time", look for
> all
> > > unestablished connections to see where the flow goes and what needs to
> be
> > > open. I do have a doc on communication flow, it may take a week or
> little
> > > longer for me to post it online, since it is on one of the hard drives
> @
> > > work, and i'm working remotely this week.
> > >
> > > If you need any help in the meantime, let me know,
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > ilya
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/9/14, 7:52 AM, Mohamed Ali Saidi wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks for your response.
> > >> To configure vcenter on cloudstack we don't need  to know interactions
> > >> between them , but i need informations for research issues.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2014-04-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>  On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
> > >>> saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  Hello,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports,
> protocol
> > >>>>
> > >>> ,...
> > >>>
> > >>>> ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any
> > >>>> helpful
> > >>>> docs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
> > >>> we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have
> to
> > >>> puzzle with openings.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Erik Weber
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
>
>

RE: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by Michael Phillips <mp...@hotmail.com>.
I did a trace the other day to open the correct ports from cloudstack to vcenter, and I found the mgmt servers and systems vm's talking to vcenter over 443 only...

> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 18:17:12 +0100
> Subject: Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware
> From: saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> 
> thank you for informations.
> 
> Exactly i would like to know what protocol vcenter uses to send reponse to
> cloudstack.
> Cloudstack send requests via https but reponse is it on https too?
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 2014-04-14 17:28 GMT+01:00 ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>:
> 
> > Interaction happens on several layers.
> >
> > Using VMware SDK, CloudStack Management Server initially talks to vCenter
> > over 443. However, you will also see some interaction between Storage VM as
> > well as Proxy VM to vCenter and ESXi hosts directly.
> >
> > Are you experiencing any issues or is this for firewall/security review?
> >
> > If you are attempting to troubleshoot the issue, the easiest way is to
> > look at the logs as well as "netstat -antup | grep -i time", look for all
> > unestablished connections to see where the flow goes and what needs to be
> > open. I do have a doc on communication flow, it may take a week or little
> > longer for me to post it online, since it is on one of the hard drives @
> > work, and i'm working remotely this week.
> >
> > If you need any help in the meantime, let me know,
> >
> > Regards
> > ilya
> >
> >
> > On 4/9/14, 7:52 AM, Mohamed Ali Saidi wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for your response.
> >> To configure vcenter on cloudstack we don't need  to know interactions
> >> between them , but i need informations for research issues.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-04-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>  On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
> >>> saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol
> >>>>
> >>> ,...
> >>>
> >>>> ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any
> >>>> helpful
> >>>> docs.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
> >>> we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have to
> >>> puzzle with openings.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Erik Weber
> >>>
> >>>
> >
 		 	   		  

Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by Mohamed Ali Saidi <sa...@gmail.com>.
thank you for informations.

Exactly i would like to know what protocol vcenter uses to send reponse to
cloudstack.
Cloudstack send requests via https but reponse is it on https too?

Regards


2014-04-14 17:28 GMT+01:00 ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>:

> Interaction happens on several layers.
>
> Using VMware SDK, CloudStack Management Server initially talks to vCenter
> over 443. However, you will also see some interaction between Storage VM as
> well as Proxy VM to vCenter and ESXi hosts directly.
>
> Are you experiencing any issues or is this for firewall/security review?
>
> If you are attempting to troubleshoot the issue, the easiest way is to
> look at the logs as well as "netstat -antup | grep -i time", look for all
> unestablished connections to see where the flow goes and what needs to be
> open. I do have a doc on communication flow, it may take a week or little
> longer for me to post it online, since it is on one of the hard drives @
> work, and i'm working remotely this week.
>
> If you need any help in the meantime, let me know,
>
> Regards
> ilya
>
>
> On 4/9/14, 7:52 AM, Mohamed Ali Saidi wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your response.
>> To configure vcenter on cloudstack we don't need  to know interactions
>> between them , but i need informations for research issues.
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>  On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
>>> saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol
>>>>
>>> ,...
>>>
>>>> ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any
>>>> helpful
>>>> docs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
>>> we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have to
>>> puzzle with openings.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Erik Weber
>>>
>>>
>

Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>.
Interaction happens on several layers.

Using VMware SDK, CloudStack Management Server initially talks to 
vCenter over 443. However, you will also see some interaction between 
Storage VM as well as Proxy VM to vCenter and ESXi hosts directly.

Are you experiencing any issues or is this for firewall/security review?

If you are attempting to troubleshoot the issue, the easiest way is to 
look at the logs as well as "netstat -antup | grep -i time", look for 
all unestablished connections to see where the flow goes and what needs 
to be open. I do have a doc on communication flow, it may take a week or 
little longer for me to post it online, since it is on one of the hard 
drives @ work, and i'm working remotely this week.

If you need any help in the meantime, let me know,

Regards
ilya

On 4/9/14, 7:52 AM, Mohamed Ali Saidi wrote:
> Thanks for your response.
> To configure vcenter on cloudstack we don't need  to know interactions
> between them , but i need informations for research issues.
>
>
> 2014-04-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
>> saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol
>> ,...
>>> ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any helpful
>>> docs.
>>>
>>>
>> I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
>> we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have to
>> puzzle with openings.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Erik Weber
>>


Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by Mohamed Ali Saidi <sa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your response.
To configure vcenter on cloudstack we don't need  to know interactions
between them , but i need informations for research issues.


2014-04-09 13:48 GMT+02:00 Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>:

> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
> saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol
> ,...
> > ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any helpful
> > docs.
> >
> >
>
> I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
> we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have to
> puzzle with openings.
>
>
> --
> Erik Weber
>

Re: interactions Cloudstack Vmware

Posted by Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Mohamed Ali Saidi <
saidi.mohamed.ali.88@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm searching in the internet for interaction issues (Ports, protocol ,...
> ) between cloudstack and vmware (vcenter,..) but i can't find any helpful
> docs.
>
>

I believe most of the traffic happens on HTTPS to vcenter.
we put the vcenter in our management network, so didn't really have to
puzzle with openings.


-- 
Erik Weber