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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> on 2013/12/04 09:35:52 UTC
Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components
No objections or no interest?
A few more comments would have been helpful.
I am going to remove all dormant javadocs on friday or saturday.
Not sure on the branding though. It is the responsibility of the PMC to
take care of trademarks.
Comments are welcome.
On 29 Nov 2013, at 20:37, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2013, at 19:21, sebb wrote:
>
>> I agree that the Javadoc pages could be removed.
>> Although it would not be difficult to fix the individual pages,
>> there's not much point in fixing Javadoc for dormant components.
>>
>> However I'm not sure it makes sense to delete the entire website
>> because of the branding issues.
>> What are the particular branding issues that you think need fixing?
>
> Footer is not correct, should be like:
>
> "Apache Foo, Foo, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the Apache Foo
> project logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of The
> Apache Software Foundation in the United States and other countries."
>
> First mention of a trademark should be with Apache, like Apache xmlio
> (not only xmlio).
>
> There are surely more things. I am not sure if it really helps to
> remove the website alone. People could refer to their own build when
> it comes to legal problems and indicate their only source is doing $x.
> Not really an expert on these things. However I would like to have us
> compliant to the branding recommendation.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian
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Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components
Posted by Emmanuel Bourg <eb...@apache.org>.
Le 04/12/2013 09:35, Christian Grobmeier a écrit :
> No objections or no interest?
> A few more comments would have been helpful.
>
> I am going to remove all dormant javadocs on friday or saturday.
>
> Not sure on the branding though. It is the responsibility of the PMC to
> take care of trademarks.
> Comments are welcome.
What about running the Javadoc fix tool instead?
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-doc-updater-tool-1955731.html
Emmanuel Bourg
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Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
I think we should keep the lights on, but no more. So sites should exist to
that level.
What is the minimum needed on the site for a dormant project?
Pointer to this list, explanation of what it is/was, pointer to old
releases and to the location of the source history.
I'm torn on javadoc; I don't think it's required, but it's also so useful
when you can find it online and not have to dig open a tar.gz. See my
comment on another thread about centralizing javadoc - if we did that, then
dormant javadoc wouldn't have an incremental cost with each component. I'm
happy to volunteer to work on such a centralized wossname.
Hen
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Niall Pemberton
<ni...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I have no objection.
>
> Niall
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > No objections or no interest?
> > A few more comments would have been helpful.
> >
> > I am going to remove all dormant javadocs on friday or saturday.
> >
> > Not sure on the branding though. It is the responsibility of the PMC to
> > take care of trademarks.
> > Comments are welcome.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 Nov 2013, at 20:37, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >
> > On 29 Nov 2013, at 19:21, sebb wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree that the Javadoc pages could be removed.
> >>> Although it would not be difficult to fix the individual pages,
> >>> there's not much point in fixing Javadoc for dormant components.
> >>>
> >>> However I'm not sure it makes sense to delete the entire website
> >>> because of the branding issues.
> >>> What are the particular branding issues that you think need fixing?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Footer is not correct, should be like:
> >>
> >> "Apache Foo, Foo, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the Apache Foo
> >> project logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of The
> Apache
> >> Software Foundation in the United States and other countries."
> >>
> >> First mention of a trademark should be with Apache, like Apache xmlio
> >> (not only xmlio).
> >>
> >> There are surely more things. I am not sure if it really helps to remove
> >> the website alone. People could refer to their own build when it comes
> to
> >> legal problems and indicate their only source is doing $x. Not really an
> >> expert on these things. However I would like to have us compliant to the
> >> branding recommendation.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>> Christian
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [all] Removing websites of dormant components
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@gmail.com>.
I have no objection.
Niall
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> No objections or no interest?
> A few more comments would have been helpful.
>
> I am going to remove all dormant javadocs on friday or saturday.
>
> Not sure on the branding though. It is the responsibility of the PMC to
> take care of trademarks.
> Comments are welcome.
>
>
>
>
> On 29 Nov 2013, at 20:37, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
> On 29 Nov 2013, at 19:21, sebb wrote:
>>
>> I agree that the Javadoc pages could be removed.
>>> Although it would not be difficult to fix the individual pages,
>>> there's not much point in fixing Javadoc for dormant components.
>>>
>>> However I'm not sure it makes sense to delete the entire website
>>> because of the branding issues.
>>> What are the particular branding issues that you think need fixing?
>>>
>>
>> Footer is not correct, should be like:
>>
>> "Apache Foo, Foo, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the Apache Foo
>> project logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of The Apache
>> Software Foundation in the United States and other countries."
>>
>> First mention of a trademark should be with Apache, like Apache xmlio
>> (not only xmlio).
>>
>> There are surely more things. I am not sure if it really helps to remove
>> the website alone. People could refer to their own build when it comes to
>> legal problems and indicate their only source is doing $x. Not really an
>> expert on these things. However I would like to have us compliant to the
>> branding recommendation.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> @grobmeier
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