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maven-plugins-sandbox
Howdy,
How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of primary
build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using the
new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
wagon.
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason@maven.org
http://maven.apache.org
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Re: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Trygve Laugstøl <tr...@student.matnat.uio.no>.
On 24 Apr 2004 09:06:58 -0400, Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
> half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of primary
> build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using the
> new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
> wagon.
>
+1
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org> wrote on 24/04/2004 11:40:42 PM:
> On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> > moving anything?
>
> I was going to move:
>
> artifact
> castor
> codeswitcher
> release
>
> Which are plugins that I'm responsible for that aren't good enough for
> one reason or another.
Don't several other plugins rely on artifact, e.g. ear, war etc?
I'm assuming by 'move' you mean to remove them from maven-plugins cvs.
This will break those plugins and mean that people building from HEAD will
need to download the sandbox plugins to get comparable functionality.
Doesn't sound like a good idea to move artifact to me.
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org>.
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 10:06, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@maven.org]
> > Sent: 24 April 2004 15:41
> > To: Maven Developers List
> > Subject: RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
> >
> > On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > > Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> > > moving anything?
> >
> > I was going to move:
> >
> > artifact
>
> It is used by several other plugins, no? Like the war, ejb, ear plugins.
I'll check, if it is then I'll just work on the wagon-based version in
the sandbox and swap it out later.
>
> Ok, I'll wait for maven-plugins-sandbox to be created.
There ya go:
http:/http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/maven-plugins-sandbox/
Perms should be setup correctly and the avail file has been modified.
Anyone with access to maven-plugins and access to maven-plugins-sandbox.
> -Vincent
>
> >
> > One thing that really needs to be done, if not already, is filtering
> > what gets included with the maven 1.x distribution. So the Abbot
> plugin
> > may certainly graduate to maven-plugins but it shouldn't ever be
> > distributed with the core, it can be downloaded.
> >
> > --
> > jvz.
> >
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason@maven.org
> > http://maven.apache.org
> >
> > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> come
> > and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> >
> > -- Thoreau
> >
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@maven.org]
> Sent: 24 April 2004 15:41
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
>
> On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> > moving anything?
>
> I was going to move:
>
> artifact
It is used by several other plugins, no? Like the war, ejb, ear plugins.
> castor
> codeswitcher
> release
>
> Which are plugins that I'm responsible for that aren't good enough for
> one reason or another.
>
> > For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional
tests
> > for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in
the
> > Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with
it.
> > I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
> > possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express
interest. In
> > the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a
first
> > step if we wish to try this?
>
> +1
>
> Go for it.
Ok, I'll wait for maven-plugins-sandbox to be created.
-Vincent
>
> One thing that really needs to be done, if not already, is filtering
> what gets included with the maven 1.x distribution. So the Abbot
plugin
> may certainly graduate to maven-plugins but it shouldn't ever be
> distributed with the core, it can be downloaded.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@maven.org
> http://maven.apache.org
>
> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
come
> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>
> -- Thoreau
>
>
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org>.
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 09:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
> Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> moving anything?
I was going to move:
artifact
castor
codeswitcher
release
Which are plugins that I'm responsible for that aren't good enough for
one reason or another.
> For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
> for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
> Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
> I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
> possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
> the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
> step if we wish to try this?
+1
Go for it.
One thing that really needs to be done, if not already, is filtering
what gets included with the maven 1.x distribution. So the Abbot plugin
may certainly graduate to maven-plugins but it shouldn't ever be
distributed with the core, it can be downloaded.
--
jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason@maven.org
http://maven.apache.org
happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
and sit softly on your shoulder ...
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org>.
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 10:05, dion_gillard@multitask.com.au wrote:
> Also, what about using the sourceforge maven-plugins project for things
> that are not core?
If it suits the people who want to develop the plugins that's totally
fine.
> --
> dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
>
>
>
> "Vincent Massol" <vm...@pivolis.com> wrote on 24/04/2004 11:24:24 PM:
>
> > Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> > moving anything?
> >
> > Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically go
> > through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a vote or
> > is it an adhoc decision.
> >
> > For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
> > for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
> > Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
> > I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
> > possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
> > the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
> > step if we wish to try this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@maven.org]
> > > Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
> > > To: 'Maven Developers List'
> > > Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
> > >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
> > > half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
> > primary
> > > build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using
> > the
> > > new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
> > > wagon.
> > >
> > > --
> > > jvz.
> > >
> > > Jason van Zyl
> > > jason@maven.org
> > > http://maven.apache.org
> > >
> > > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> > > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> > come
> > > and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> > >
> > > -- Thoreau
> > >
> > >
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dion_gillard@multitask.com.au
[mailto:dion_gillard@multitask.com.au]
> Sent: 24 April 2004 16:05
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
>
> Also, what about using the sourceforge maven-plugins project for
things
> that are not core?
Personally I don't feel like I belong to that SF project. I'd prefer to
develop my plugins in maven-plugins. Maybe it's a question of knowing
the other committers. I feel better here. The community is also the same
as the one developing Maven.
I'm not sure there is anything rational in my statement. It's just a
feeling. But feelings are important in a community... :-)
-Vincent
> --
> dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
>
>
>
> "Vincent Massol" <vm...@pivolis.com> wrote on 24/04/2004 11:24:24
PM:
>
> > Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> > moving anything?
> >
> > Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically
go
> > through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a
vote or
> > is it an adhoc decision.
> >
> > For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional
tests
> > for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in
the
> > Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with
it.
> > I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
> > possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express
interest. In
> > the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a
first
> > step if we wish to try this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@maven.org]
> > > Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
> > > To: 'Maven Developers List'
> > > Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
> > >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all
the
> > > half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
> > primary
> > > build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin
using
> > the
> > > new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin
using
> > > wagon.
> > >
> > > --
> > > jvz.
> > >
> > > Jason van Zyl
> > > jason@maven.org
> > > http://maven.apache.org
> > >
> > > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it
will
> > > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> > come
> > > and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> > >
> > > -- Thoreau
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
Also, what about using the sourceforge maven-plugins project for things
that are not core?
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
"Vincent Massol" <vm...@pivolis.com> wrote on 24/04/2004 11:24:24 PM:
> Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
> moving anything?
>
> Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically go
> through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a vote or
> is it an adhoc decision.
>
> For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
> for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
> Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
> I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
> possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
> the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
> step if we wish to try this?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@maven.org]
> > Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
> > To: 'Maven Developers List'
> > Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
> > half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
> primary
> > build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using
> the
> > new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
> > wagon.
> >
> > --
> > jvz.
> >
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason@maven.org
> > http://maven.apache.org
> >
> > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> come
> > and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> >
> > -- Thoreau
> >
> >
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RE: maven-plugins-sandbox
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
Sure. The only problem is deciding what to move. Can we vote before
moving anything?
Also, do you set up a practice of having new plugins systematically go
through the sandbox and the be promoted to maven-plugins after a vote or
is it an adhoc decision.
For example, I'd like to add a new plugin for Abbot (functional tests
for swing applications). Even though it would be better hosted in the
Abbot plugin they do not use Maven and are thus not familiar with it.
I'd like to move to maven-plugins or maven-plugins-sandbox and then
possibly later move it to the Abbot project if they express interest. In
the meantime, I'll support it. I could move it to the sandbox as a first
step if we wish to try this?
Thanks
-Vincent
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@maven.org]
> Sent: 24 April 2004 15:07
> To: 'Maven Developers List'
> Subject: maven-plugins-sandbox
>
> Howdy,
>
> How about we setup maven-plugins-sandbox, as I want to move all the
> half-baked plugins that I'm responsible for and get them out of
primary
> build and I also want to take a stab at a new 1.x xdoc plugin using
the
> new java xdoc code and I want to try a new deploy/install plugin using
> wagon.
>
> --
> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@maven.org
> http://maven.apache.org
>
> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
come
> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>
> -- Thoreau
>
>
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